Haywarduck Moderator No. 26 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I'm done with this topic, I can agree to disagree, but this is a very serious topic I wish all would reflect on. I can even agree with the criticism of Cristobal and this quote. He has thin skin, shouldn't have brought it up this way, at this time, on and on. I can't agree defending those who reflect badly on the program or the outcome we all want. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Ducker1 No. 27 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/24/2021 at 10:28 AM, Southwest Duck said: One other aspect of this is the Duck players see Cristóbal defending them. You know they all saw the video. This will fire them up and play harder for him. A great leader takes the heat for his players. So great to see this!! with all thats said a coach has the right to defend his team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywarduck Moderator No. 28 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/24/2021 at 10:28 AM, Southwest Duck said: One other aspect of this is the Duck players see Cristóbal defending them. You know they all saw the video. This will fire them up and play harder for him. A great leader takes the heat for his players. So great to see this!! Exactly, the outcome is the players playing for each other, the coaches, and against the opponent and the fans. Again unintended consequence, but a completely misdirected fanbase, and short lived as the negative impact will be felt. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimpleDucks No. 29 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Booing reflects badly on the team? Nahh. It's all been overblown. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duxster No. 30 Share Posted October 24, 2021 If I was at the game, I would have been booing. But I would have been booing the coaching, not the players. I'm fed up with watch Mario's press conferences. He throws out so much jargon: next man up, we need to execute better, we need to coach better. Why not be honest and say we've had a lot of injuries and are playing second and third string players. Admit that the second and third string players are not as ready to contribute as the first string. That's why they aren't on the first string, right? Admit that they are learning on the job and will make mistakes. You can want "next man up" but you wont get it unless the next man is as good as the one they are replacing. Mario, fans are asking you to play one of the freshmen QBs because we don't believe you when you say AB gives us the best chance to win. We were up by 17 pts in the 4th quarter at UCLA. Why not put in one of the freshmen QBs and give us a chance to see what you are seeing? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Ducker1 No. 31 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/24/2021 at 10:37 AM, DimpleDucks said: Booing reflects badly on the team? Nahh. It's all been overblown. I dont think any of us want to hear booing, we want to hear cheering. I think Oregon fans want to cheer--so lets give em something to cheer about. The UCLA victory does just that.--For Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
criticalduck No. 32 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I guess I should have refreshed instead of starting the same discussion...DOH! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph No. 33 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Easy answer, Mario. Blow out a bad Buffs team from start to finish. Have the team reay to play with the same enthusiasm it showed in LA. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Ducker1 No. 34 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/24/2021 at 10:37 AM, DimpleDucks said: Booing reflects badly on the team? Nahh. It's all been overblown. I totally agree with this. You want to hear booing go to a Jets game--but the fans pay big$$ year after year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrw No. 35 Share Posted October 24, 2021 It's interesting that the booing has become national news. That likely means booing is not happening at the 120-something other schools in NCAA D-1 football. Which means, to me, that there's something different about Oregon fans: entitlement, inflated expectations, lack of awareness, whatever. But, whatever it is, to me it ain't pretty. I watched Iowa get absolutely killed by Purdue and there was not a boo in the stadium from Iowa fans. So, go ahead, Autzen fans, and boo your 6-1, 10th ranked team. It's your privilege. But, it makes you look class-less. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Ducker1 No. 36 Share Posted October 24, 2021 At least we are not like Stanford and David Shaw- that can put out a very good team year after year with half the seats empty for just about every game. In anything or everything in life we deal with the good and the bad. Autzen is one of the best venues in all of college football and I believe it will continue to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triphibius No. 37 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Does anyone remember Mike Gundy's "I'm a man" rant? He was sticking up for his player. I think Coach was doing the same. This is not about Cristobal being thin-skinned. The boos, as I understand it, were directed at Anthony Brown. Cristobal, to his credit, is being loyal to his players. It is hard to see how booing helps to motivate the players or encourages recruits to come to the U of O. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Ducky No. 38 Share Posted October 24, 2021 We should of been booing him when he held back Herbert but we didn’t. Coach up you QBs or expect the fans displeasure. We pay for the Wright. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
criticalduck No. 39 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/24/2021 at 10:27 AM, ICamel said: I don't know how much season tickets cost(I'm sure it's a pretty penny), but I think that investing that amount of money in a product allows the consumer to voice their approval/disapproval. I didn't boo myself but I am not upset at other fans doing so. I pay enough for tickets every year and I walked out of that game. The win against UCLA was nice, as Jon said, but it was only a point win by "the best" team in the Pac12. Charles suggest that we reset our expectations of a MC coached team. It is true because if we are expecting anything more than a one score win against any team then our expectations are too high. This is MCs best as a head coach...he has a winning record and appears he is "prevent" coaching. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
criticalduck No. 40 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/24/2021 at 11:04 AM, criticalduck said: only a point win by "the best" team in the Pac12. I meant a one score win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrw No. 41 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Man, after reading some of the comments, I gotta say that some of y'all take college football way too seriously. It's a game, played by kids, for our entertainment. Sure, we love getting into the details, and watching carefully, and learning about the game, and it gets emotional, but c'mon, cool down. It's just a game. And, getting angry and hyper-critical and demanding has absolutely no effect on how the team plays, no matter how important we think our voices are. This is supposed to be fun, isn't it? 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toketeeman No. 42 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I strongly suspect most of the booing last week was for the COACHES, not the players. And, during the UCLA game, Dye himself was heard screaming by the media at the coaches at one point, "RUN THE DAMN BALL!!!" when a third-and-inches situation popped up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie No. 43 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/24/2021 at 10:27 AM, ICamel said: I don't know how much season tickets cost(I'm sure it's a pretty penny), but I think that investing that amount of money in a product allows the consumer to voice their approval/disapproval. I guess I just feel there are better ways to express disapproval than booing. Maybe write a letter to the coaches specifically about what that disapproval is for. Just a thought. Yes, it takes more time and effort than booing, but it better defines the complaint. Yes, specifics are often detailed on places such as this forum, but the coaches aren't hopping from forum to forum reading the posts and therefore don't see the specifics, as they would in a letter addressed directly to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie No. 44 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/24/2021 at 1:16 PM, toketeeman said: I strongly suspect most of the booing last week was for the COACHES, not the players. And, during the UCLA game, Dye himself was heard screaming by the media at the coaches at one point, "RUN THE DAMN BALL!!!" when a third-and-inches situation popped up. But Dye wasn't booing. He was being specific. And he wasn't part of an anonymous crowd in the stands. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittDuck No. 45 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I think I am probably as big a Duck homer as anyone, and I love to cheer and yell for good play as much as anyone. I will also boo the refs at the drop of a hat. If I am treated to 4 Ps (plunge, plunge, pass, punt) 3 times in a row, you bet your @$$ I’m gonna boo. Coming to these games is not a cheap investment, even when you get the cheap seats. I pay for the right to cheer when I am pleased, and to boo when I am displeased. I firmly believe the ONLY way a fan has to show displeasure is the boo. I support Mario in most things, and think he is doing great things for our Ducks, but if you don’t like the boo’s, then coach the team to play up to the levels we know you can. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurangoJim No. 46 Share Posted October 25, 2021 On 10/24/2021 at 10:47 AM, GODUCKS15 said: Boo a 6-1 team? Why? I wouldn’t boo, but they were 4-1 at the time and looking like the lesser team compared to a winless AZ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurangoJim No. 47 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I think this booing thing has been blown way out of proportion. But that’s what the media does to make headlines. And at the Ducks expense, even better. And we (and MC) play right into it. I was at the game (not booing) and while I didn’t like it, to my ears it wasn’t that big a deal. Happened twice on very poor play calling / execution / or combination thereof. After a pair of three-and-outs. We were 4-1 after a weak showing in beating AZ, and looking like we could lose this game. I was certainly yelling “come on guys” that may or may not have added to the noise, but hey, at that point in time the Ducks were looking like s*^t. Maybe AB got fired up by it and focused? We’ll never know, but he certainly up’d his game. I love MC, but he is too stubborn to get it, IMO. He defends his players (good) but doesn’t accept / reflect that maybe it was partially or all directed at him for play calling. Fans said their thing, MC said his, let’s leave it there. Good win at the RB. This won’t be an issue going forward if we play hard, fast and finish. We have the coaching staff, players and facilities to win. Just do it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyToBeADuck No. 48 Share Posted October 25, 2021 It's obvious that after 8 days and a very rewarding victory against UCLA, that the booing was still on MC mind. We speak what is on our mind. To me that says alot and raises some questions: What and how many discussions took place on the topic since the Cal game? Did this bother or upset the players? (Remember a good or great player can jump in that portal at anytime.) Did recruits or their parents make comments about the booing? (Remember the recruits game day experience is critical to their decision making process) We're the coaches upset by the booing? (All coaching staffs work hard to win. Not all win...look at Arizona. Must be very frustrating to be 2 time defending PAC 12 Champs, 6-1, ranked 7th and be discussing boos ) It's every paying customers right to voice their displeasure. I support that. But actions have consequences, both good and bad. Time will tell on this topic. Go Ducks. Get that 3rd title in a row. This year, this season only happen once. It's yours for the taking... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck 1972 No. 49 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I sure hate the way our society is changing. What happened to respect and civility? I for 1 will never boo. I believe there is never a reason to do so. To me it's called sportsmanship. This is the first time I have heard boos in Autzen. It didn't look or sound good to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie No. 50 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I don't know the answers to HappyToBeADuck's questions, but I do know that the talking heads on sports shows and even the game broadcasters brought up the subject of the booing. I'm hoping that since that Cal game is now more than a week behind us, that they will stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...