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USC, UCLA Looking to Leave Pac-12 for Big Ten in 2024

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On 6/30/2022 at 12:05 PM, kirklandduck said:

Wasn't one of the points of the "alliance" was to help prevent poaching of teams from other conferences?

I'd say the "alliance" is moot at this point.  I'm curious to learn what $c, and UCLA really do.  Infinitely so pertaining to Mullens, and UofO powers that be decide to do.

 

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On 6/30/2022 at 12:16 PM, Darren Perkins said:

If Ducks don't get an invite to Big-10, can always go Independent in football. Oregon would the only top-tier program out west (huskies could also be if they can get it together), so to get a decent schedule power ranking for playoff purposes would need to drop out of the Pac-12.  Can still play a majority of old pac-12 rivals then juice it up with sexy non-conference games.  

Yeah, we have the backing of Nike and we have an incredible international brand.  I would back this idea/ path

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Part of me just wants Oregon to go all in and join the SEC! 
Improved recruiting access (not that they aren’t doing great) TV and financial benefits, visits to home for players from the South East, 4 non conf games, and we’d finally get SEC teams in Autzen! 
 

maybe just dreaming here???

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On 6/30/2022 at 12:27 PM, Duck out of Water said:

Part of me just wants Oregon to go all in and join the SEC! 
Improved recruiting access (not that they aren’t doing great) TV and financial benefits, visits to home for players from the South East, 4 non conf games, and we’d finally get SEC teams in Autzen! 
 

maybe just dreaming here???

This just may be the kick in the pants the Ducks need to take some bold steps they wouldn't take otherwise.

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Welcome to the BIG/PAC16/18/20

 

So... Maybe the PAC12 should have added TECH, OSU, KANSAS, HOUSTON/BAYLOR

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I hope this doesn’t happen but it’s not surprising.  It’s about expanding the television market for the Big 10.  They added Rutgers and Maryland before for this reason.  Now they want the huge LA market.  
SEC adding OU and Texas also pushed the Big10 to this more quickly.  

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I still think the Big 10 would be interested in Oregon.  Oregon draws eyeballs like no other team in the PAC-12. 

 

 With all the Nike support and national attention we get I think the BIG 10 would seriously consider Oregon as a member.  

 

In this day and age the media market isn't just local.   Oregon draws nationally, maybe not like an Alabama or even Ohio State but there ain't many of those around.

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A lot of SEC  fans were against expanding the SEC by taking Texas and Oklahoma. Many of us would rather have added Florida State and Clemson if expansion were to happen. At least that ensures that the added teams were truly Southeastern.

 

I absolutely hate the cannibalization of conferences. Maybe I am simply too traditional, but with this trend and an out-of-control NIL scene my interest in my favorite game is flagging a bit.

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Echo's of the breakup of the Pacific Coast Conference.  Oregon became independent and actually did fairly well until it rejoined what became the Pac-8 in the mid-60's.

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UCLA and USC to the Big 10. UW and the Ducks likely to follow. The Ducks will not be left on the sidelines. Pac 10, 12, is going to be a zero. 

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On 6/30/2022 at 12:44 PM, sad BIG12 fan said:

Welcome to the BIG/PAC16/18/20

 

So... Maybe the PAC12 should have added TECH, OSU, KANSAS, HOUSTON/BAYLOR

This was a big miss by the current Pac12 commissioner and to me a contributing factor should USC/UCLA leave.

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Oregon has the Portland TV market, so to say we don't have a TV market is a little premature.  Seattle is 12 and Portland is 21.  San Fran is #6 TV market.  The funny thing about USC/UCLA is how marginal their TV numbers are, even though they are in LA.  Nearly 6 million people is a lot, but just about every major league sport and college sport has always mentioned just how band wagon those schools/LA is.

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On 6/30/2022 at 1:03 PM, Nevada Dawg said:

A lot of SEC  fans were against expanding the SEC by taking Texas and Oklahoma. Many of us would rather have added Florida State and Clemson if expansion were to happen. At least that ensures that the added teams were truly Southeastern.

 

I absolutely hate the cannibalization of conferences. Maybe I am simply too traditional, but with this trend and an out-of-control NIL scene (and don't insult my intelligence by saying that teams are not buying players) my interest in my favorite game is flagging a bit.

 

 

Wouldn't it be a kick in the pants to think of Oregon being the northern, and western most member of the SEC? 😂😜

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On 6/30/2022 at 1:17 PM, Tandaian said:

Oregon has the Portland TV market, so to say we don't have a TV market is a little premature.  Seattle is 12 and Portland is 21.  The funny thing about USC/UCLA is how marginal their TV numbers are, even though they are in LA.  Nearly 6 million people is a lot, but just about every major league sport and college sport has always mentioned just how band wagon those schools/LA is.

QFT, I'm orginally from northern Orange County (La Palma - Kennedy High School - Eddie Pleasant). 

With so many distractions/ activities in LA... the fandom can be very fickle.

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No way.   Shows how scared of UO both UCLA and USC are.  Not gonna happen.  No way.  Uh-uh.........

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Wait a minute, just hold on, this is, "the Conference of Champions" we're talking about here!

 

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Were is Bill?  He needs to shame UCLA about sticking with the conference of Champions.

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Sounds like a bargaining ploy to get more TV revenue to me

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It appears the PAC is the new Big East...

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Hell I wouldn't mind being the big fish in a little pond. If they leave add San Diego State, Nevada, Boise State and Fresno State.

 

Then take all of the B12 merge them into West and Midwest divisions. That would be a big enough market. We stay in the same footprint. We would have our own Super Conference.

 

Let USC and UCLA go to B10 where they will never win. I bet the only reason the B10 would want them is the big stadium's so they wouldn't lose a lot of money on the travel and away games.

 

There are still enough athletes to put a good product on the field. We then could play the other super conferences champions for the natty.  Or the West Midwest has its own champion like the division 11 has. That would be sufficient for me especially if we had champions playing the other champions. Wouldn't be much different than it is right now. We could even take 2 from each for an expanded PO.

 

I would prefer that scenario to any others. It wouldn't ruin it for the rest of the teams who don't get to join the sec or b10

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Wow. That will be so weird. Guess nothing stays the same forever. Wonder if the rest of the PAC will want to join with Big 10 to form a really super-sized (you want fries with that?) conference.

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Pac 10 and Big 12 must merge. That would be a respectable conference.

 

 

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Hehehehe, while these moves typically happen in pairs, what if we spurn the Fuskies once and for all and Oregon/Clemson bounce and join the B10 or SEC?!?!  There's a very petty part of me that would laugh my butt off about that while leaving the rest of the PAC and B12 to merge and create a mediocre kinda super conference. Granted, I'd miss Utah but leaving Washington behind holding the hot potato really does make me laugh! "There ya go you miserable butt sniffers, now you'll NEVER be able to keep us out of a Rose Bowl again!" Hahahahahaha!!!

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Let them go and bring on OK State, Baylor & Houston. 

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Been thinking about this a little now.  The logistics for USC & UCLA playing in the Big 10 will be a nightmare. 

 

Both these schools have a lot of competitive sports programs and compete for National Championships in other sports.   Trying to play league games against teams on the other side of the country will be an absolute nightmare for many of these sports and no picnic for football either. 

 

I would not be surprised if the Big 10, once USC & UCLA reached out to them, started planning for the breakup of the PAC-12.  They must have realized that the PAC-12 couldn't survive without USC & UCLA. 

 

They also (both the Big 10 and USC & UCLA) realized that the scheduling and playing issues would be massive with just two teams out west.   But if they cherry picked a few more teams out west which would form a west pod (Oregon, Washington, maybe Stanford and Cal) so that these teams could schedule each other in all sports that would pretty much solve the logistics issue.  

 

I think the big picture there are a lot more shoes to drop in this one. 

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