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Duckley Palace
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Thompson said he viewed the events of last August as “an assault on the West Coast.” He added: “College football needs us to succeed.”
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Really? Seems like it's been fine without these two doing anything.
— Teresa Gould, the commissioner, was solid talking about her vision and the complicated path that stands before the Pac-12. There was no news here. Just Gould, saying that she’s into the fight.
Well you're trying I guess. Better than Larry or George. But Bob the tomato and Larry the cucumber would do better than those two.
— Gould was asked whether the Pac-12 had locked in broadcast teams for the games that will be carried on The CW. I’m told they’re close to finalizing the broadcast teams but Gould said: “We’re not there yet.” It sounded to me like she wanted the network to make that announcement.
So nothing's changed.
— The Pac-12 is an easy target for jokes. There are only two schools left. They’ve been squeezed out of the ‘Power 4’ by no fault of their own. Gould’s strongest remarks came when she pointed out that Oregon State and Washington State had never in their history competed at anything but the highest levels of college athletics and still belong there.
Ummm, when have they competed? Existed and sucked. Not what I'd call competing. They don't belong in a P4 league. Nobody saw them as a commodity. Not even the desperate ACC, or Truck Stop Big Twelve. Yeah that's what Beavis and Coogler fans were calling it last year when there were rumors of the Big Twelve poaching schools from the PAC 12.
“Why is
that even a question?” she said.
Because you have two teams and call yourself a conference. Plus this is "media day". The day the media asks questions.
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Imagine the SEC losing everybody except Vanderbilt and South Carolina. South Carolina at least has one SEC East Title.
Now imagine the Big Ten with just Northwestern and Indiana. Northwestern has a couple Big Ten West Titles, and a 1995 Rose Bowl appearance.
Washington State has a 1997 Rose Bowl appearance. Oregon State has a 2002 Fiesta Bowl win. I wonder how big that banner is in their renovated home(subsidized off PAC 12 money)?
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How many weeks till we're out of this pathetic heap of a so called conference? Texas and Oklahoma became official SEC members this week.
I was out at a gathering the other night . The conversation shifted from silly things like debates, to more important things like Oregon crushing Michigan and Ohio State(at home). Some dude who nobody was talking to , let us know how much it annoys him that Ohio State has "The" at the beginning of their name.
He turned out to be an Oregon State Beavis alum or whatever. The guy went on a four minute tirade about how Ohio State isn't better than any other OSU in the country(academically they really are but shhh). The little Beavis began saying how Oregon State should have "Thee Great" in front of Oregon State. Nothing about Oklahoma State though. I told him that it doesn't matter, but the manner in which he was using "Thee" wasn't correct.
He told me he taught literature, and studied all the classic writings of the thespian masters. Maybe I was wrong. I told him to have a good night, and to have a designated driver at the ready. He didn't get my meaning, probably because I wasn't a "Thespian Master".
But please let Oregon State get granted "Thee Great Oregon State's" Masters of the WacVerse.
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On 7/3/2024 at 1:24 PM, JabbaNoBargain said:
Yep, still a lot of them that think the name “Pac12” will equate to automatic success and P5 status once they get up to 8 teams, no matter who they are. They seem to forget that it didn’t equal success when the membership was legitimate, but sure, adding Nevada and 5 others of that ilk = instant P5 status and riches.
But my favorite Beavis belief remains them believing the civil war being played in Corvallis this year is somehow them doing OBD a favor.
I mean they could just replace us with Idaho. I'd be cool with it.
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On 7/2/2024 at 10:05 PM, David Marsh said:
I don't know... I think after a few years in the B1G USC may consider returning to the Pac-2 even with a massive pay cut just to escape Oregon.
The Trojan lads only flex on Oregon is " The Big Ten made us full revenue partners. Oregon is worth a half share". Not realizing that Oregon is doing so much more with so much less(in their eyes). What's going to happen when Oregon stomps them out as a "half share pity case" ?
I truly think they wanted nothing to do with the Ducks. They tried to play that down when it became obvious the Big Ten was going to just go ahead and add them. Of course mighty USC isn't scared of Oregon. They're happy to have another travel buddy😉
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Saw a thread on a Beavis board last year. The subject was asking what Oregon State should do when USC came back in a few years begging to come back to the PAC 12. Many said a two for one home split.
You can't make this up.
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The term blue blood is just a word. You think high school recruits care about Nebraska being good before they were born? It's about visibility, image, ability to win, and NFL draft competency. Oh and $$$$$.
The fact Oregon has been so relevant despite the majority of the country being able to watch any of it's conference games is a testament to it's relevancy. How many games does Oregon win? How do they recruit? Do people tune in to watch them when they are on National Television? Do other programs view a game against Oregon as a big deal?
The biggest indicator is what conference wanted Oregon, and the want wasn't there to pad potential television numbers like Rutgers or Maryland. The want wasn't to make USC happy by giving them a regional travel buddy. The want was there because you get conference matchups like Michigan vs Oregon, Ohio State vs Oregon, Penn State vs Oregon. Meanwhile Utah, Arizona, and Arizona State had to settle to remain relevant. Cal and Stanford had to bend down, hat in hand to get an invite to a conference that is fighting a court battle against their biggest brands.
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I have a feeling Penn State is going to be the program most affected by Oregon's recruiting prowess. James Franklin has lived off top 15 classes, only one conference title. His claim is that they are third best in one of the Big Two leagues. Third wheel in recruiting, and being a rival to Ohio State/Michigan.
What happens when they become fifth/sixth wheel?
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Death, taxes, and Trojan nation complaining about Oregon being a better program for over two decades now.
"Zero titles!!! No history before the late nineties!!! No high school talent in state!!!! Ugly uniforms!!! No real brand history!!!!"
I'm just wondering if one of our new conference mates designated as blue-blood with feel the same.
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On 6/19/2024 at 1:42 PM, JabbaNoBargain said:
Beavis did win the 1942 Rose bowl, which was played in Durham NC due to uh, Pearl Harbor. The only Rose victory between the PIG2 was held on the east coast when everyone was signing up to join the military, but hey, they’re power teams.
Yeah, I guess Cornell, Brown, Harvard, Yale, Chicago University, and Minnesota would be considered the elite blue bloods right before Hitler chose to take his siesta. My general rule is if there is nobody alive or coherent enough to remember the feat, it's probably been too long.
Which is why Nebraska isn't a power to me anymore. They don't recruit like a power, they don't compete with the powers. I don't see that changing. So they were lucky that they got called up when they did.
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When has Oregon State been a major football program? One BCS bowl win, 0 conference championships. 2 top 25 finishes. Playing in a 40,000 capacity stadium with high school amenities(before this past year). One first round draft pick.
They've been below programs like Boise, Fresno, and SDSU. Just like Washington State tbh. They were propped up by Oregon for years. If they had even contributed a little bit, they would still be propped up. But the PAC Twelve was run like a country club on a country bumpkin revenue stream.
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Nebraska hasn't been upper tier since they left the Texas 12. Oregon has been better before NIL, it's just gotten even further ahead. Is that Oregon's fault, or more like Nebraska's money men? I'll hang up and wait for a Husker response.
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Notice nobody is saying a peep about Washington, USC, or UCLA. Most notably a writer focused on a team that's ranked as a conference and national title favorite. But the program Napoleon Buckeye chooses to focus on is the biggest challenge on their board. One they may have to play more than once, and one that continues to excel despite having coaching reigns last about the same time as this kids average courtship at Minecraft academy.
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Deion is going to find out real quick what happens real quick about what happens when you try to hold a card over the NFL. He's stated that his son, and Travis Hunter aren't going to play for certain teams.
Bill Belichick couldn't get a job this past hiring cycle, meanwhile his lackey Josh McDaniels got three jobs(he no showed the Colts). Robert Kraft had a hand in that. NFL owners run their multi billion dollar investments abiding by Burger King's motto.
Deion has the media, but it's looking like a rehash of the Levar Ball nonsense a decade ago. The NFL isn't the NBA though, they'll move on real quick from anybody that becomes a headache. Hall of Famer or not.
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On 4/23/2024 at 12:31 PM, Jon Joseph said:
Good take. I do think that Freeze at Auburn will improve the Tigers's play. He is doing a good job of recruiting and picking from the transfer portal. But QB in 2024 will again be an issue.
I'm a bit confused (no surprise.) If you are referring to Georgia, Georgia does not play LSU and Missouri in 2024-25. Preseason top 25 teams on the Dawgs' schedule are Clemson in Atlanta, Tennessee at home. Bama, Ole Miss, Texas, and possibly Kentucky on the road.
Bama will be preseason ranked in the top 10. Bama plays UGA and Missouri at home, Tennessee, LSU, and Oklahoma. on the road. Auburn in 2024 is a home game.
I think that both Tennessee and Alabama will contend for a playoff berth. Especially, playing only eight conference games. Tennessee's 'B12 offense' is no longer an anomaly in an SEC that these days features many a shootout. Heupel is another coach who is recruiting very well and looks to have a very good QB in Nico Iamaleva, from Long Beach, CA, for the next two seasons. The Vols miss Texas, LSU, and Missouri in the next two seasons.
Texas? Loses a lot of talent. Will young players and transfers come through at DL, WR, and RB? Will last year's close wins in the B12 be losses in the SEC? I'm very interested to see how Texas plays on the road at Michigan, Arkansas, and A+M and in Austin vs. Georgia and in Dallas vs Oklahoma. I'm not sold on Sark having the chops to win a Natty at Texas. IMO he abandoned the run game far too soon vs UW in the semifinal.
Mizzou due to a lightweight OOC schedule and the easiest conference schedule does have a shot at making the playoffs.
You read it correctly, my writing was off the wall. What I mean by Georgia being the favorite isn't based off yearly schedule, more like that invisible force Miami had in the 80's or early 2000's. What USC had from '03-'08, or Alabama had from their first title under Saban in '09 to their last in '20.
When I see Georgia on a big stage under Kirby, I expect them to win. Even if they're down double digits to a team that might be better than them. Like the Peach Bowl vs Ohio State.
It's not quantifiable, although having fifteen five star studs each class helps. It's wave after wave of development. Lose five guys to the first round, replace them with even more talented guys.
Oklahoma has the stench of softness to them. They get blown out every playoff, it's the complete opposite of Georgia. Texas is out of that boat to me because I saw them take the fight out of a Saban coached Tide in Tuscaloosa. That's a big confidence booster.
Sorry if my post doesn't illustrate what I mean entirely. It's hard for me to speak on unproven players, but I trust the coaching staff at Georgia. I trust the program. I don't trust Oklahoma.
As it relates to Oregon under Dan, he needs to close the deal. We all know he has the goods, but like Ryan Day, or Harbaugh up till last year. He needs to close the deal, beat the best and win it all.
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On 4/21/2024 at 9:33 AM, Jon Joseph said:
Good luck to the Sooners in the maiden season in the SEC. Oklahoma would sooner have Texas far easier in-conference schedule. Oklahoma will be quarterbacked by RS Frosh Arnold, In the bowl loss to Arizona, Arnold threw for 361 yards but also threw 3 picks. All of the PL starters from 2023 are gone.
OOC - B12 Houston and playoff contender AAC Tulane.
Home - Tennessee, Alabama
Away - Auburn, Ole Miss, Missouri, and LSU. Whew!
Neutral - Texas
I think that Oklahoma, ranked mostly in the 12 to 15 range in the preseason is because of the schedule in part, overrated. The SEC did Oklahoma, which plays an OOC game in 2025 vs. Michigan, no favors by simply flipping the home and away games in 2025 and playing the same SEC teams that were played in 2024.
They are going in without Saban at Alabama. Brian Kelly at LSU. Auburn and Florida with questionable coaches, and Tennessee as a more classic Big 12 light up the board type with former Sooner Heupel at the helm.
Really it's Georgia, Texas, LSU, Ole Miss, and Missouri as the favorites right now. With Georgia being the new heavyweight.
I would rank their hardest games as at LSU, at Missouri, at Ole Miss, vs Texas, and home to Alabama. Alabama will still have the remnant upperclassmen with that Saban lineage. Away games in Baton Rouge are an experience I hope to experience one day, possibly with a future scheduling alliance with the Big Ten/SEC down the road.
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I had some free time this afternoon, clicked about and found the Oklahoma Sooner spring game. It made me realize that the soon to be defunct Pac Twelve has the worst media coverage period.
Baker Mayfield returned in his Buccaneers uniform, and the announcers called Oklahoma "The QB Heisman Trophy Winners Club". They named off Jason White, Sam Bradford, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, and Caleb Williams as Sooner alum that won the Heisman, and have/will be number 1 overall draft picks. Excluding Jason White(who want undrafted in 2005).
Will Dillon Gabriel follow this lineage? We can hope.
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If I were ASU, I'd stop getting quarterbacks from California named Jaden. At least Daniels played a couple seasons for them before transferring to LSU and winning the Heisman.
Rashada backed out of playing for Florida because of a 13 million dollar NIL deal falling through.
Jaden Rashada Wanted to Be at Florida, but His NIL Fiasco Ends With No Winners
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The quarterback from California was let down by many people around him in the messiest...The transfer portal needs to be fixed. You must only look at the case of Kaydyn Proctor, a OT who transferred to home State Iowa ,only to transfer back a month later to Alabama.
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Life is short. Don't just be nice to each other when sad news like this reminds us of how much we miss a loved one when they pass. Be kind everyday. As Mark wrote about his lovely wife passing, be there for each other.
We can argue, get angry at each other. But don't let those silly things break up wonderful friendships, or whatever relationship you have. Be kind, be thoughtful. Remember today is a gift, and treat it as such. Give forgiveness, a friendly word. A couple bucks to a soul in need. As Kim lived her life, and is now in that great Duck pond above. Don't just wish her family well. Do it to everyone you know.
Our body's are mortal. Our souls aren't. RIP Kim. Your life left a positive mark on your loved ones. Thank you!!
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Canzano: Overheard at the Pac-12's Las Vegas Cocktail Party...
in Our Beloved Ducks
They believed they were on equal footing as the Big Ten. Kind of like brothers in arms. The two oldest conferences with similar academic beliefs. What they failed to see was the way the Big Ten did everything the smart way from their conference network, to making deals that kept them in the same moneymaking park as the SEC.
I do believe the Big Ten would've preferred the PAC to still exist. But when USC came to them asking for a lifeline, they knew the goose was in the oven. Even still, the reason Oregon and Washington weren't invited the first go around was a last stitch effort to see if George could save the league. Plus they got arguably the best current brand (Oregon) at a major steal. Half of what they got UCLA for.
Did the Big Ten strike the death blow? I'd say the PAC fell on their own proverbial sword by being blind to the fact the Big Ten evolved to fight the SEC. The Big 12 has evolved with far less tools at their disposal.