-
Finish your profile right here and directions for adding your Profile Picture (which appears when you post) is right here.
Warrenton
-
Posts
86 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Articles
Events
Posts posted by Warrenton
-
-
Justin Wilcox and Kalani Sitake both turned us down. I haven't seen any reporting on Chip Kelly yet but who knows who else declined. It's shocking to be honest.
Hiring an a 3-year assistant who's never been a head coach may have been one of the few real options after MC torched the place.
-
On 12/11/2021 at 10:39 PM, betme said:
I think the devil is in the coordinators budget and hires.
Not sure. MC couldn't beat Shaw or Whittingham on the field so we bring in a kid in his 30s with no coaching experience and think he'll be able to do it. I like all the optimism around here but I think it's a long shot.
We'll find out soon.
-
On 12/11/2021 at 9:46 PM, Mike West said:
Annnnnd it begins....
Thank you Warrenton for showing you have as much passion for OBD as the rest of us.
I respectfully disagree, and here's to hoping you're wrong with no hard feelings.
I'm quite sure you want a Natty as much as we all do.
I for one am glad we can begin the next chapter in our pursuit of a title.
Sorry, just not seeing it. USC hires a coach who took his team to the CFP three times. We hire a rookie with only three years experience as an assistant and never been in charge of anything.
Just call me concerned.
-
2
-
-
On 12/11/2021 at 7:59 PM, Jon Joseph said:
Because of all the titles Oregon has won in football? I'm not sure you are being objective my friend?
I'm not sure you're being objective. The Oregon job is head and shoulders above coaching in the likes of Waco, Morgantown, Lubbock, etc. for a multitude of reasons. Have you ever been to any of these towns?
-
1
-
-
On 12/11/2021 at 7:57 PM, Jon Joseph said:
Check the PO Committee's final top 25 and the current AP basketball top 25. Academics? 4 out of 14 SEC member schools are AAU members but they win titles in football. Texas is an AAU school and is not bowl eligible this season. Academics? What kind of take does the nation have when they tune in an empty Stanford stadium and many half full stadiums?
Not sure if you pay attention to leadership in the PAC-12, but PAC-12 Presidents want to affiliate with other institutions with strong academic credentials. That's always been important whenver the PAC-12 condsidered expansion.
-
On 12/11/2021 at 7:51 PM, Jon Joseph said:
Fickell is headed to the 'new B12' which at the close of 2021, is a better conference in both football and basketball than is the Pac-12. IMO not expanding and wiping out the B12 was a terrible business decision on the part of the conference. I do not view this hire in the same vein.
Also you would have to be brain dead to want to coach Cincy, Okla St, West Virginia, BYU, Texas Tech, Baylor, etc. over Oregon.
-
On 12/11/2021 at 7:48 PM, Jon Joseph said:
Is there anyone out there better prepared to lead the Ducks vs UGA in Atlanta next season? He comes from the toughest conference in America and he is a heck of a recruiter. Fickell was never going to leave Ohio for Oregon; especially, when Cincy is now in the B12.
The Pac-12 is 2 for 8 in the playoff. The Pac-12 has only 6 bowl eligible teams. The Pac-12 was killed OOC last season. The Pac-12 is saddled with a functionally insolvent network. Oregon is a very good but not an elite/blue blood coaching job. Elite facilities? Yes. But how many 4 and 5 star recruits does the state of Oregon produce every season? And frankly over Mario's tenure for the most part we were treated to pedestrian, play down to the level of your opponent, boring football. Not the flash and dash brand that took Oregon and NIKE a lot of time and money to build.
We will of course see if he is up to the task? But I think this was a bold and correct hire.
An HC hire can't be about one game, especially an OOC game. Also, the Big 12 is losing Texas and Oklahoma so it's basically morphing into a glorified G5 league. The PAC-12 will be a lot more attractive moving forward than the Big 12. There's isn't a school in the Big 12 that wouldn't jump on it in a second if the PAC-12 invited them. The PAC unlikely to invite any of those schools, however, because they don't bring much to the table and they're garbage academically.
-
On 12/11/2021 at 7:33 PM, David Marsh said:
He's not leaving Cincinnati... He made the playoff and even if he was interested he wouldn't leave his team till after the playoff... We can't wait that long.
Yes... I know Lanning will coach the playoff game but there is a big difference from being a DC and leaving and a head coach and leaving whole still trying to coach.
Also Cinci is going to the big-12 soon... The job gets a bit better.
Fickle was never going to be an option. You are in your right to not like the hire but we were never getting Fickle.
Cincy about to get beat by Alabama though. That's going to make a coach like Fickel do some thinking.
-
On 12/11/2021 at 7:38 PM, eVOLed said:
Coming in peace from TN. As we're not rivals, I hope that's okay. Mods may delete me, as you see fit.
Lanning is a good recruiter and runs a very, very firm defense. As a HC? Who knows but he's done very well at GA. I wish him and Oregon well.
My concern is him not coming immediately to Oregon. I don't know the terms of when he's starting in Eugene but what I'm seeing in the south is that he'll coach in the playoffs for GA.
That's concerning from a recruiting standpoint (and, honestly, a coaching standpoint for GA) that he's letting Oregon down by not getting on the recruiting trail ASAP. A new coach, from a different conference needs to be there. I'm sure GA recruits heavily nationwide and he probably has some good relationships but it feels odd that he won't be fully available until after the championship (assuming GA beats MI.)
Good post. I'm sure there will also be some more guys jump into the portal after this like Noah.
-
On 12/11/2021 at 7:09 PM, DrJacksPlaidPants said:
Head coaching experience doesn’t matter. Like somebody stated earlier this week. Oregon has had 5 different coaches since 1994 and only 2 losing seasons.
Head coaches absolutely matter. A bad head coach can set a program back for years, even big-time blueblood programs. Look what happened to USC after Carroll left.
-
On 12/11/2021 at 7:07 PM, Darren Perkins said:
Rebuilding from the ground up? Absolutely not. This is Oregon, not Arizona. Oregon is loaded with talent and is coming off a double digit win season. This is no 2-10 program.
And again, plenty of coaches do just fine, such as Lincoln Riley and Ryan Day.
It all depends on what type of system and what type of offense Lanning's going to want to run.
-
On 12/11/2021 at 7:04 PM, DrJacksPlaidPants said:
Really? That’s weird. His first HC job was at Oregon.
My mistake, I thought Chip had been the HC at New Hampshire. But like Riley, Chip took over at Oregon already an assistant here with the culture and system in place. He didn't need to rebuild.
-
2
-
-
On 12/11/2021 at 7:01 PM, DrJacksPlaidPants said:
The only coaches Oregon ever hired with significant HC experience was Willie Taggart and Mario Cristobal.
Chip Kelly would disagree.
-
On 12/11/2021 at 6:53 PM, NotThatFan said:
And plenty don't. Jimmy Lake, Randy Shannon, Mark Helfrich...
What's more, Riley was an assistant at Oklahoma when the previous HC retired. Riley took over a program that was in very good shape and already had almost everything in place. Riley didn't have to rebuild or reshape at all.
-
1
-
-
The great head coaches of this era -- Saban, Meyer, etc. -- went to small schools to learn to become good HCs before winning natties for big programs.
Meyer coached at Ball St. and Saban at Toldeo for example. Going from assistant straight to a big-time program -- not only running it but rebuilding it from the ground up -- is a very tall order. The odds are against this guy.
-
1
-
-
-
On 12/11/2021 at 6:34 PM, duck023 said:
The fact that he is so young and went up through the coaching rankings so quickly tells me this guy is good. Kirby Smart wanted him as his right hand man so that is good enough for me.
He's never been in charge of anything. Plenty of assistants kill it at that level but are a joke when they're in charge of a large operation.
-
On 12/11/2021 at 6:34 PM, Southwest Duck said:
Risky yes
surely high risk high reward hire for sure
Lousy… no way !!!
this hire is a solid A- to me
What would have you liked to see? The second go around with an older fatter chipper?
Luke Fickell
-
On 12/11/2021 at 6:29 PM, Darren Perkins said:
Lincoln Riley had no head coaching experience before he took over Oklahoma and he did ok. Ryan Day. Mel Tucker, the list goes on.
Plenty of coaches make the transition just fine.
It's strange at this level to hand the reigns over to an unknown. I know it works at times but it's extremely risky.
-
1
-
-
On 12/11/2021 at 4:42 PM, Charles Fischer said:
Yep...I can hear the gnashing of teeth all the way in Eugene. Did I hear a "damn those Ducks!" among that gnashing?
When you try to keep up with Oregon...
Are you sure anyone's worried about a guy most people have never heard of with little head coaching experience? I don't know....
-
Sorry, that's just how I see it. Lanning has no significant head coaching experience and now he's going up against guys like Lincoln Riley, Whittingham, Shaw etc.
This ain't ideal....
-
On 12/11/2021 at 7:27 AM, DrJacksPlaidPants said:
Fentress would have more credibility if he would quit throwing Helf’s 37-16 record in our faces and saying Oregon overreacted by firing him. Anybody who followed the program could see the team was circling the drain under his leadership..
The 2015 Utah blowout was my first indication that the air was leaking out of the balloon. The Alamo Bowl was bad as well, but the nail in his coffin was 70-21. He should’ve been fired promptly after that game. There was no way to recover the season after that disaster.
I remember that season and Fentress sticking up Helf. I also remember Fentress getting into Twitter wars with Wazzu fans and Utah fans after those teams beat us telling those fans their team wasn't very good and to stick it. I still think that was kind of strange and unprofessional.
-
Atlanta Journal >>> Fentress
-
1
-
-
I know it's ultimately Phil's decision, but I wish he would at least consider what the fans want before making choices that are so huge for the program.
C'mon Uncle Phil, don't live in the past by going back to Chip Kelly. Listen to us. The fans are the lifeblood of the program.
Recruiting Getting Hurt?
in Our Beloved Ducks
Posted
This is not a good situation so close to early signing day.