Yeah, someone should have at least written a boiler plate speech he could read for 2 minutes, would take about 5 minutes to write on a napkin.

My favorite take is them thinking they’re doing us a favor by agreeing to play us, that we desperately need them for budgetary reasons. Some of them think they could even get 2 or 3 home games for 1 at Autzen because OBD so desperately wants to play them.

 

I lost all empathy when they blamed OBD for their situation and successfully doing exactly what they continue to try to do. Because no one wanted or wants them, we are back stabbers and they are virtuous. To this day, they would instantly join the ACC or B12 if they received an invite. 
 

To this hypocrisy I say, sit and spin Beavis.

They only get as much attention as we each personally choose to give them. As the adage goes, don’t hate the player…

I’m not trying to pi$$ in anyone’s cornflakes if hanging on the edge of your seat based upon the social media posts of a 17-year old kid is your hobby or job, but the cut and paste responses seen on every board at every program every time a kid flips or hits the portal should ideally be beneath us. It’s going to happen, everywhere, including to OBD. This kid probably isn’t evil and will be welcomed with open arms if he changes his mind again.

 

Personally, macro recruiting for me keeps me in my happy place. I get excited about names on signing day (to a degree) and in June when we know the roster for the fall. Until then it’s aggregate and nameless.

On 7/24/2024 at 3:11 PM, DanLduck said:

If a season is to be 17 games, potentially, then more depth in players would be a good thing.

 

Maybe it's also just recognizing that most teams carry that many players but do so with walk-ons. This way those kids could get scholarships and not hope for NIL to cover costs.

This.

Nomenclature is changing. The word “scholarship” no longer means the same thing if “walk-ons” are going to school for free and being compensated.

On 7/23/2024 at 8:54 AM, Washington Waddler said:

     Hmmm . . . could be, however, people who are as consumed by personal image as he appears to be often project that kind of public image in order to mask the less secure parts of themselves.

 

     While he’s been the pet of national ‘personality’ media interest, he’s yet to be tested under the harsh light of a big time media market that won’t care what he wears if he fails to produce.
 

Good points on where the bar is set, anything north of 2 wins was acceptable in year 1 at CU. It will be interesting to see what happens after year 2 if he goes 4-8 in the B12.
 

CU soaked it all up last year, but even they will lose patience at a certain point. Loses his QB after this year and the recruiting is pretty much at garbage level in 2025. Not sure how many times you can portal in 37 3 stars and be any good.

I think UCLA will do better than expected, in fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if they finish ahead of UW.

 

All looks pretty accurate to me, something tells me for 10-18 beat writers are not putting a lot of thought into it.

On 7/21/2024 at 7:45 PM, Jon Sousa said:

 

• DP, How do you get unlimited recording?

Unlimited recording with YouTube as well, lot of options out there now I'd encourage people to investigate!

On 7/21/2024 at 8:57 AM, GeotechDuck said:

I have not had cable in years.  I was using Sling and an HD antenna for Duck games. I think I am going to make the switch to YouTube TV this year.  We will see how it goes. 

Not to derail, but I made a similar switch about 5 years ago. Went from traditional Dish to YouTubeTV, but had to add Sling Orange for 5 months per year to get P12 network…which btw was still significantly less than having Dish for 12 months.
 

Sling and YouTube are very similar conceptually, but I find the tech and interface with YouTube to be a significant upgrade. The beauty of this is there is no commitment or service call needed. You could switch every month if you wanted with zero human interaction 😆 

The entire premise of this thread still cracks me up. Like scientists at Beavis Engineering Labs finally cracked the code and discovered NIL involves compensation to players.
 

Victims.
 

Poor Beavis.

I started to pay attention at the micro level, this is a solid reminder why I avoid doing so 😜 

For me

B1G network is included with YouTubeTV

Peacock is included with my Xfinity ISP

 

Think I’m set…cost me way less than last year.

Going to be interesting to watch Beavis at QB in real life. QB room is very unsettled with limited options. Even if they had the exact same roster as last year, except at QB, this would be worrisome for them. They’re combining these QB prospects with a completely gutted offense, a reliance on undeveloped/mediocre transfers, and a first year HC.
 

Very high chance things will not go very well this season, even with them slumming (in their view) in a MWC schedule.

Absolutely fantastic

On 7/17/2024 at 4:39 PM, The Kamikaze Kid said:

Bummer. I’m wondering how to react.

Should I: 

 

A. Blame LSU’s NIL like a SUC fan?

B. Say we didn’t want him anyway like a fusky fan?

C. Say oh well can’t win them all. On to the next 4/5 star like a Duck fan.

Spot on, people are so weird, but they almost all say a hybrid of, “we like a player who wants to be a Duck and loves football, not just money”.

On 7/17/2024 at 10:37 AM, The Kamikaze Kid said:

The only thing that makes sense to me is if the pac 2 are waiting for Cal and Furd to come back after the ACC implodes.

 

After that add Tulane, SMU, SD St and maybe UNLV and hope someone like UCLA or Utah or ASU comes back. Seems like too many ifs to hang your hat on. 
 

I think they should just join the Mountain West and move on.

Lot of ifs to be sure.
 

I don’t  think the ACC will implode anytime soon. Even if by some miracle the ACC loses FSU, Clemson, and UNC before 2026…what remains in the ACC would still be more attractive than anything the PIG2 could offer. I think the ACC would add East Carolina, App State, etc. before adding Corvallis and Pullman.
 

I also don’t think anyone is leaving the B12 that they just joined with the hope that the PAC could get an okay tv deal. Travel for B12 new members really isn’t made any easier going back to some funky form of the PAC.

 

The PIG2 should be a bit concerned about the MWC getting annoyed. At some point they might be like, hey, these two really aren’t adding anything, and they’re actually arrogant. Why do we want them?
 

The original PIG2 carrot was the potential of being able to offer playoff access as a P5, without that, what are they bringing to the table besides misplaced arrogance?

The "war chest", while mostly real (and completely unearned) really only permits the PIG2 to quasi-pretend to be P4 teams for 2 years. If they wanted to maximize their funds they should have bought their way into the B12 when the iron was hot, immediately.

 

The longer they wait, the less value they bring. I personally think the ship has sailed, but if their fans somehow get satisfaction for 2 years of being able to say they have a P4 budget, I guess that awesome for them...somehow.

I’ll also add that, yes, it’s a video game with some interesting choices here and there.
 

But our offense is stacked, especially at WR. I myself lose track of the talent we’ve been compiling at the individual level because I personally am “Mr. Macro” for recruiting until we get to August. But now playing this game and putting jersey numbers with names and abilities on the virtual field is very exciting to see. Our top 3 WRs have the potential to be completely ridiculous. Only like 2-3 teams will be able to even think about dealing with our offense.
 

Can’t wait!

Played the game quite a few hours last night, good times!

 

There is no question EA has over-rated a handful of teams to diversify interest. Can’t have CU on the cover and have them completely suck…EA knows how to make $$.

 

As to Boise, I hope to smash them, badly. I lived in Moscow ID for 10 years and grew to dislike them on multiple levels. That being said, they are considered one of the more likely G5 candidates to make the playoff. Beating a playoff team by 10 wouldn’t be the worst thing ever.

Tough one.
 

What defines best? Most talented players? Elevating the program? Team or individual accomplishments? How do you differentiate between a player elevating the program and a player benefiting from the elevation of the program?

 

Tough indeed.

 

I’d start by mostly ignoring pure stats, just doesn’t consistently translate across eras. Lot of players with ridiculous stats the last 15 years. I think I’d really go with players that had signature moments, seasons or careers that helped elevate everything.
 

1. Musgrave - broke through getting us a bowl appearance and win. Dude was everything to us breaking through on this front. As others noted, when he was healthy, away we went. Both times he got injured we disappeared.
2. 
   Mariota - Only Heisman  winner, won a playoff game, etc. Rarefied air on all fronts
3. 
   Kenny Wheaton - The pick changed the program. Clutch as it gets and continued to be a really good player after his frosh year.

• Brooks - Ultimately got us to the Rose with utter garbage conditions.

 

 

On 7/14/2024 at 8:43 PM, David Marsh said:

But what if we keep scheduling OSU and they just never win. 

 

Think about it.... With the way these programs are diverging this could be a decades long win streak for the Ducks. 

 

Wouldn't if be fun if the Beavers start to see this game as an automatic L every year. Their fans would go crazy and then disillusioned and then resign themselves that they'll just keep scheduling that butt kicking to keep them out of the Big Sky. 

 

I think it might be worth the money for that. 

There are actually many in their camp that think they’re doing OBD a favor by allowing us the privilege of playing them. If we pound them this year I wouldn’t be surprised if they backed out of the return trip.

I’d vote nope to scheduling big time OOC games. Keep it regional and dumb it down. Big Sky, MWC and random G6, rinse and repeat until schedules are no longer set by schools.

 

If our goal is to play 16-17 games, which would include, a B1G schedule, conference title game, and up to 4 additional playoff teams…IMO there is no incentive to willingly make it more challenging.

BTW - fun to do some sorting with that chart. Beavis’ average NIL deal was more than OBD’s in 2022, but they don’t buy players. 🤔 

 

Like everything they whine about, they do exactly what OBD does, they just aren’t very good at it.

On 7/12/2024 at 9:55 AM, Jon Joseph said:

DM, I agree with you on Gabe over Howard. The Ohio State D was elite in 2023 and with Caleb Downs coming over from Bama, could be better in 2024 IF the LBs produce. LB is where the Buckeyes lost veteran production. Like Michigan in 2023, almost all draft eligible three year players at Ohio State return in 2024, 

 

Without McCord at QB, the tOSU O was lost in the Cotton Bowl. But the D with no help from the other side of the ball shut down the Missouri offense like no team in the SEC had done in the regular season. I expect Ohio State to come into Autzen with a bad attitude and intent on running the ball. The Oregon DL wilted in the 4th Q vs UW in the champ game. I hope we will not see the same on 10/12. As Charles expressed, 'quite a game.' With tOSU a -1.5 favorite the books see it the same.

 

I do want to give some love to Columbus, Ohio. Fort Worth is a cow town, not Columbus. Cleveland is also much nicer than it once was, especially since they put out the Cuyahoga River Fire in 1969 😍.

I wasn’t going to nitpick since your post was on 🔥 

 

But Columbus population is north of 1M. That being said, I think Tucson metro is also north of 1M, but it still feels like a cowtown. 😝 

On 7/11/2024 at 5:00 PM, DanLduck said:

I read the Big 12 are negotiating with Clemson and Florida St.

How does that make you feel, Pac (1)2?

 

Rebuilding the Pac will result in it becoming a G5 conference. Even with NIL they won't be able to compete. 

 

Not trying to be cruel, but having NFL bust Ryan Leaf be a headliner seems rather ironically appropriate. 

Also trying not to be cruel, but choosing Ryan Leaf shows how clueless this ragtag bunch is. The very same week that the B12 media days, in the same hotel I believe, gets sidelined by a star player getting a DUI and his coach reaction being to state he himself has probably driven drunk “1,000’s of times”, the PIG2 decides that having a multi-substance addict who spent time in jail was just the right symbol to celebrate and give the impression of drinking with college students at a cocktail party.

 

Contrast this with the very well done MWC media days, also in Vegas

 

Solid effort PIG2.

Two stacked teams with OBD most likely having the edge at QB and playing at home, large factors…if they want to make us the underdog, I say, yes please.