Well at this fine Holiday Season as the Husky faithful  gather around their doggy dish for dinner........

 

Ask yourself what do they have to talk about?  What is truly positive about their program?

 

Not much...........

 

Next best thing.........

 

Bad mouth your master?

One of the best Christmas gifts received today. Thanks Charles!

 

Gosh the Huskies are the gift that keeps on giving.

 

Merry Christmas OBD forum.......

The landscape of big time college football is changing so fast that its almost unrecognizable.

 

As fans we have no say in these matters. College football will change as the money and opportunities arise.

 

Most roller coaster rides have sections that are difficult and stressful. G force pressure.....

 

For some it's exhilarating, for others it's painful and upsetting.

 

The transfer portal is just that,  a roller coaster ride. As soon as the bowl games are completed their will be hundreds of players entering the portal. Get ready.......

 

The rules have always allowed for players to transfer. They just had to sit out a year. That may make some fans happy but it was unfair to the player.

 

None of us and I mean none of us know each and every players reasons for playing football. If that player cannot achieve or satisfy that reason.  ...

 

Well they should have the right to move on. And I wish them the best. Afterall, they play for themselves and family. Maybe Mom or Nana missed Jayson. Maybe Jayson missed them.

 

Consider that Coach Lanning talked with each player or recruit on the plane ride to Eugene. Or in person.  Pethaps Jayson didn't feel he would fit in Coach Lannings scheme.

 

Either way, to me, the human element of the players and coaches outweighs the loyalty to school nonsense. Or loyalty to the fans.

 

If we want Oregon to succeed and win a Natty then change is necessary.  And change is coming....

 

Good luck to all who leave for the NFL or another school. Life is a journey and each of us has to live with the consequences of our decisions and actions.

 

As a fan, I truly don't like this but I sure hope your replacement is better. Sooner or later, a group of Duck players and coaches are gonna walk off the field with a Natty.

 

Hope it's sooner.........

Jon, as we all know, leadership in the PAC was woeful. Why is our 2nd best team playing outside of the PAC foot print. 

 

But consider this.....

 

With all the money and billionaires in California why is their not a Second New Years Six Bowl in Socal?

 

2nd place team should be showcased in the PAC foot print. Theirs plenty of money, hotels and potential sponsors to make a big payday possible. I mean Rose Bowl type money.

 

Maybe the new council can get with it. If influemce and name recognition is all the council has, then use it.

 

The Jimmie kibble and bits bowl is just underwhelming.........

Well done Coach......

 

Keep the gifts coming this Holiday Season......

 

Get that Natty for Georgia and come out west and get a handful for Oregon and OBD.......

It's so wise and Necessary to keep politics or any potential " Forum Launch Points" under control.

 

Normally I am long winded but this post has one point.  Hope you can take it under consideration. 

 

In the middle of the last century when the world was in three colors, black, white or gray ( especially TV sets) sports were just starting to creep on the small screen.

 

When my Father bought the first color TV set in our neighborhood an interesting thing happened.

 

Neighbors, friends and relatives came to our house to watch TV with us. Some brought dinner but ALL brought dessert. YUMMMMMMM

 

Sunday was special. With the formation of the AFL there was now 2 to 4 games on every Sunday. It was heaven. Food, family, neighbors and friends with a common goal.

 

The color TV Set. So it was football from 1-7 est. If the late afternoon game went past 7, well tough. (Look up Heidi Bowl) The networks cut to their National Night Time broadcasts. Walt Disney, Ed Sullivan Hour then Bonanza of Gun Smoke. Dad bought a 2nd color TV for the family room so you could choose between games and shows.

 

My fellow forum members it was a time I wish I could bring back. Sundays were wonderful.

 

2 things broke the fun up. By the time MNF came around most people had a color TV set in their own home.

 

The second was political talk. Gosh the anger and harshness was frightening to a child. Some Dads got banned. Moms rule......

 

No one is welcome in my Brothers home today unless you agree to his wife's politics. WTH. It only ends bad when politics get discussed. Don't you feel their are plenty of sites to argue endlessly and yet change no ones mind?

 

So in my family since the 1950's sports has been a safe haven. Politics a foolish venture into nothingness.

 

Thanks Charles and team for getting that aggravation to the curb.

Just an additional thought.

 

Non scholarship kicker sets up for a game winning field goal in a P5 conference championship game.

 

Make the kick and you send your team to the CFP. The school and conference divide up millions of dollars. Reap the recruiting rewards that follow, yet........

 

We can't carve out a scholarship because of rules.  If we can have NIL dollars flowing then why not target specific scholarships.....

 

Maybe I am bitter because my son played 3 years of D1 ball while on a full ride ACADEMIC SCHOLARSHIP.

 

IMHO, The school and coaching staff had no problem with that.....

 

Just saying.

Charles and forum members

 

Merry Christmas..........

 

And once again and always, thank you Charles, writers, moderators and contributors for this wonderful, safe haven. It's a one of a kind.

 

I don't think I have a problem with being kind and considerate, so this forum and the rules are easy to follow and enjoy. I was raised by and taught from a national union negotiator. A master at seeing both sides of the discussion. Here's some of his advice:

 

Always remember you are a guest in all doors you walk thru except your own.

 

I consider myself a guest on this forum. IMHO, we are all guests on this forum. When I am invited to someone's home, as a guest, I am on my best behavior. I treat the host(est) and their guests with respect and kindness. I am not more important than anyone that was invited. Nor are my thoughts and opinions.

 

There will always be more than one opinion. Usually multiple opinions... Listen intently with respect. You have 2 ears and 1 mouth for a reason. Be informed before you speak. Openly admit when you are mistaken or wrong.

 

I try to recognize that the party that is this forum is a house full of Charles guests.  Multiple view points are expected and welcome.. I would never berate, belittle or try to show up one of his quests. We have the huskies and beavs for that. All opinions are worthy of thought and consideration. I hope that other forum members give me the same courtesy. The multiple view points have helped me change my opinions. Not just sometimes but many times I am wrong. That was easy.

 

Most important advice was to never show or say anything in anger or too harshly. The world may look different in the morning.

 

I never hit submit reply or send until I proof read my typed words. I respectfully take out any direct harshness directed to a writer or commentator. I don't have the right as a guest to purposely hurt the writer or guest. Nor would I ever touch the keyboard while drinking, excessively. More wisdom next morning even with a hangover......

 

Best advice as always came from my Mother. If you can't say something nice then don't say it at all.

 

Does that need any explaining?

 

There are so many sites to express anger and show one's superiority.  This isn't one of them. IMHO....

 

Hope I never hurt anyone on this site. It's truly one of a kind. Yes there are membership rules, but don't we think they are worth it?

 

Hope this post doesn't get banned?

The article was pretty accurate.  As always, when's it's your turn, take advantage of the opportunity.

 

It's exciting that even after all the departures and season ending injuries that most of the back ups are 4/5 stars. Stars mean nothing but these youngsters are talented. Very talented.

 

Only 8 juniors and seniors are listed on the 2 deep roster. That means 40 plus youngsters will be playing in the Alamo bowl. That bodes well for the future. 

 

Hope Coach Lanning keeps the top talent coming to Eugene and they coach them up.

 

I take one exception in the article.  I just don't see where KT was dominant after his return. He had his moments but was not a dominant force. At times he was double and triple teamed. Something just wasn't right.......

On 12/24/2021 at 7:16 AM, Steven A said:

"but these scholarships are solely for kickers, punters and long snappers and cannot be used in any other way."

 

Meaning none of them are allowed on the field for any other purpose . end of story

 

So, no Bill Veecking and seeing that long snapper also being used on KO, punt coverage, defense or backup tight end, etc.

 

 

Very strict rules or regulations have to be in play. Keep the 85 scholarship limit in place.....

 

Then offer 6 special team scholarships for kicker, punter and long snapper.

 

And as you pointed out those should be the only positions they can play.

 

These young men have to come to work at specific days and time. They have to practice their trade. They need fair compensation.

 

And the coaches need clear, concise and binding rules in place on these scholarships.

David thanks for shedding some light on the subject. After reading it again it chaps my ...... that those in power aren't fighting for a fair solution.

 

Any player who is controlled by rules especially the rules of the coach should be compensated with a scholarship. If they step on the field, for just one play, and take any risk they should be compensated. In layman's terms if they have to show up for work (practice) and put in the time....they need to be compensated. 

 

IMHO, the schools president, AD and HC should have been up in arms against the NCAA to make adjustments to the scholarship rules.......

 

All the schools should have been involved to facilitate a change.

 

Why didn't they?

 

All those in power constantly spout off what's in the best interest of the student athlete. 

 

If they even remotely cared they would have championed a change. 

 

Let me see if I got this straight......

 

Son, parents, we want your boy to come to our school. Practice all year long and then win us some games. Be the hero, show team and school spirit. We want him bad and for this great privilege it will only cost you this much money........WTH

 

I get that rules are the rules. But if those in power truly cared they would fight for change.

 

In this day and age, thru social media, any change can happen. But somebody has to get the ball rolling. Now that the NCAA has been effectively neutered this should be eady.

I wonder how many college football coaches wish they had a QB on their team like JH?

 

What a gem of a hidden talent he was. Small town, Pacific Northwest diamond in the rough 7 years ago.

 

How did all the great recruiters miss him? If I recall he was injured his junior year and fell off the map. But still...........

 

Hope Coach Lanning and staff find a few more like Justin.

For me, it's always sad to see people or coaches leave or get the boot. Familiarity makes us feel comfortable. Maybe safe from the unknown... 

 

Wish nothing but the best for all the coaches in their future endeavors.

 

As I look at the company, I founded 42 years ago, I see no one on the staff from 14 years ago. That's when I turned the company over to my youngest son. 

 

He was young, energetic, creative and fresh out of college with 2 degrees. He systematically eliminated the geritol staff he inherited from me.

 

He hired like minded, young energetic, creative, workaholics to continue to build the company. He and his team do in a business quarter what my team did in a year.

 

Here's to the new youth movement taking place on Oregon football. I wish Coach Lanning the same success my son has had. 35 years old is a great number.

 

PS: Coach, during my son's learning curve he sought our my advice, often.

Alex thank you for taking the time to write the article. Whats been going on in the QB room at Oregon is truly one of 2 - 64,000 dollar questions.

 

While there can be outside or inside situations that influence actual playing time during a game, it really boils down to a few things..... 

 

In the frenzy of recruiting have Oregon coaches been good at judging the potential talent of the QB position?

 

Thru the numerous practices from spring ball thru the usual bowl game have the coaches developed that potential talent in QB room?

 

I have no answers.........

 

Since Marcus arrived on campus to this very moment theirs been very little back up QB success. A very talented, successful starter left the program because Marcus arrived. There wasn't even a chance for that QB competition to take place.

 

After Marcus goes to the NFL Incomes Vernon, he gets hurt and we all know the painful outcome when his back up took the field in the bowl game.

 

Incomes Dakota and as an experienced transfer he was in over his head. So the coach throws Herbert into the mix. Justin struggles a little with his chance but he grows with his in game experiences. You can see and feel his potential. 

 

Justin succeeds in spite of the coaches around him. Next season gets off to a good start then Justin gets hurt. Braxton plays his heart out but he was not ready. He was not prepared.  The coaches had done little to help Braxton get ready.

 

Fortunately,  for MC and Oregon, Justin stays another season. In spite of coaching, Justin leads the team to a 12-2 season. I don't remember seeing a great deal of Tyler during that season, do you?

 

But the coaches did......so they brought in Anthony. Another transfer.

 

In fairness Tyler got his chance. He showed undeveloped promise and then the wheels came off. Whatever happened, Tyler lost his confidence and transferred out. 

 

Another transfer took the reigns. There were games that AB really struggled in and the back up should have been brought in. Not our coaching staff. No risk taking here. Or perhaps the back ups were not prepared by the coaches?

 

Riley didn't hesitate to bench Rattler and take a chance on a freshmen. Do the coaches at Oklahoma prepare their back ups better than Oregon does? Don't know because coaches didn't take a chance.

 

So here we go again, another transfer. Granted Bo and our new OC have a relationship. Bo should have an understanding of the schemes.

 

But I hope that there is competition in the QB room right up to the Georgia game. The new coaching staff should develop at least 3 players as starters. Develop that unrealized potential.......

 

Then one or 2 of our QB's will enter the portal. All that unrealized potential will play somewhere else.

 

Such is the state of the QB rooms in college football. But one thing is certain, if Coach Lanning and his staff don't develop the QB's,

 

we will be looking to the portal again........

Old mo is a fickled beast.

 

Now you have it, now you don't.......

 

MC has recruiting momentum. Like very few before him.

 

Yet his teams rarely build and sustain momentum.

 

No better example than the bowl game with TCU. Old MO was on steroids that night.

It's certainly possible more bowl games could be canceled.  After almost 2 years it's part of the landscape.

 

First hope all the A & M players and staff move thru this safely and quickly. Sorry the youngsters will miss out on THEIR bowl experience.

 

Was looking forward to the game. Hope Wake can pick up an opponent......

Saint Puddles welcome. Post often and understand someone will let you know if you break the rules. Enjoy the forum.

 

Kind of get the feeling that the amateur ship has sailed.

 

However we will probably see an FCS type  championship playoff with the have nots.  

 

When the insanity levels off there will be plenty of schools who will let the ship sail without them.

 

And then offer a great amateur athletic experience for their student athlete.

 

If you watched the FCS Semifinals last weekend you saw passionate players and rabid fans.

 

Change will always come in many packages.

On 12/22/2021 at 10:12 AM, Jon Joseph said:

 

So sorry to have kept you up my friend. Great walk through the past with the Rooney, Rozelle and MNF back in the early days of Monday Night. Of course, back then, many of us received 1 CFB broadcast and 1 NFL broadcast on a given weekend. I know this hard for younger readers to fathom. So, MNF was much watch TV. Today, with TV saturated with games, I only watch if I have an interest in one or both teams playing ball.

 

Spot on. It is about the MONEY. CFB was headed for consolidation, pay-for-play, etc., when the commissioners of the various conferences agreed with SEC Commissioner, Ray Kramer, that we need settle the championship on the field. Thus the BCS and now this BCS x 2. The rise of the SEC. The decline of the Pac-12.

 

I'm closing in on 75 and I'm sorry, I just do not love the game as I once did. 

Jon one more thought about the Super League developing in the near future.

 

IMHO, The PAC and its commissioner made a lethal mistake by not expanding. They could have ended the BIG 12 in one move.

 

The PAC could have laid the foundation for a 18-20 Mini Super League.  Not as glamorous as SEC, for sure. But positioned to cover 3 time zones, including Texas. TV money, lots of money, would have followed.

 

ould have eliminated a CFP competitor. Hec the last 3 weeks, after the Utah loss the narrative was all about Baylor, OU and Oklahoma State and the. CFP.. .. 2 of those teams should have been invited to the PAC.

 

I believe a 4 conference set up with 72-80 schools will come first.  Test the waters first. See how rating meters move. TV is and will always be the cash cow.......

 

The PAC could have made the first move. But didn't. Eventually 4 to 6 PAC teams will jump to a bigger pond.

Glad JM has recovered from surgery.

 

Glad JM gets to go back home. 

 

Best wishes for he and his family at Akron.

 

Hope he calls a great game in the Alamo......

 

Go Ducks.........

Jon that is some out of the box, forward, innovative thinking. 

 

Really enjoyed the article and is one hec of a ponder topic.

 

All things are possible. One thing is for sure, it's 3:35 am and I am not gonna be able to go back to sleep. My little little sleepy brain is now fully engaged. What the Hec........

 

Here are a few thoughts and comments...........

 

Although their are many pros and cons to a Super League, money will drive the bus. Good or bad, money will drive the bus.......

 

Faculties will be overjoyed at the thought of separating themselves from athletics. After all, they know they are underpaid. Maybe more money for themselves. Whatever money the school needed to funnel into athletics could be saved an funneled for pay raises.

 

Somebody, some schools, some players, their parents and non football athletes will potentially get hurt in the process.. Aka, damages..

Did someone mention damages? Let me introduce my self, I am a lawyer with the lawfirm................

Oh do you really think we can get some money from suing for damages? Why yes, and it won't cost you any money unless we win the law suit........

 

What do you mean I have to take a pay cut to coach? I don't want to make less money. I need to hire a lawyer. How much money will that cost me?

 

Hello Mr and Mrs Smith does your son have an agent representing his best interests? I can make him alot of money.....

 

The television networks will not want to be left out of this opportunity for more money.

 

The Super League teams will want a a Pete Rozelle type commissioner to represent them in the TV negotiations. The league, it's shield and brand will command large amounts of money.

 

Pete Rozelle was the commissioner of the NFL back during the formation of Monday night football. ABC Network was shut out of NFL football. NBC and CBS had the respective AFC and NFC broadcast rights. The bidding for MNF was fierce. ABC won out. The Nielson ratings for MNF were off the charts.. ABC had no competing games.. Unlike NBC and CBS who had competing games on Sunday. ABC paid more money for the broadcast rights, sold advertising spots for more money

 

Interesting, turn of events happened when the rebids for MNF broadcast rights came open again. Roone Arledge, the producer of MNF, and the ABC executives offered the NFL less money. After all,  NBC and CBS got 2 games each week and MNF got only 1 game. Why should they pay the same amount of money  as the other 2 networks? Pete Rozelle was too sharp for that tactic. He told ABC, if you want the rights you pay the same amount of money for less games  He mentioned that if ABC wanted to continue MNF broadcasts they would have to substantially increase the bid. Why? NBC and CBS had been allowed to enter the bidding war for MNF. They were offering more money than ABC. ABC ponies up and the rest is history. 

 

I wonder how many Pete Rozelle types will be involved in the potential formation of a Super League?

 

The possibilities are too numerous to mention. Exciting, fascinating, complicated and maybe painful. 

 

Yes, Jon the landscape would change dramatically.  Eventually, top to bottom, it will seek its own level and chances are money will drive the bus.

 

Its now 5 am. I'm hungry. Sure glad some of the grandkids are here this week. Nana baked cookies.

Empty words, empty promises, coach speak.......???????

 

Hard to tell until they play the game and as a fan we have every right to be skeptical.

 

I am a cup half full kind of person so here's what I am excited about:

 

On the 2 deep roster listed  for offense,  defense and special teams, over 40 players are freshman, redshirt freshman, sophomores and redshirt sophomores Awesome

 

Eight players are juniors or seniors.

 

The future for Oregon and Coach Lanning is amazing.  Most of these young players are seasoned now. Many played in the shoe.  And they won 10 games. 10 games!

 

I hope they get that 11th win. There accomplishments, in spite of massive, weekly injuries, sub par coaching and coaching defections, are truly solid.

 

Win or lose, if they play with passion and fire, they all earned their stripes........and my respect.

And in future recruits living rooms..

 

A Georgia Natty puts sideline shots of Coach Lanning on TV multiple times .......

 

Face and name recognition in front of millions of fans and multiple 4/5 star recruits.  That can be the difference between a top 30 or top 15 recruiting class for 2022.

 

Maybe a few Georgia D players, who aren't off to the NFL, miss Coach Lanning and transfer to Oregon 

 

The street cred for Coach Lanning goes thru the roof. Oregons defensive footprint is about to change.

 

Go Ducks...... Go Bulldogs........

Please put a frown on Coach Sabans face. Please.

Cyrus Moss is fortunate that Coach Lanning offered again.

 

If this young man has NFL aspirations, can you think of a better coach than Lanning?

 

Cyrus, just watch Georgia's CFP games or games. That's NFL ready talent courtesy of Coach Lanning.

Oregons foot print has changed so much that it can be hard to recognize.

 

The landscape is different. I personally would like a team full of 4/5 stars. Why?

 

Because inspite of a coaching staff that under performed in player development the talent on the field won 37 games.

 

We could see the results of poor coaching during the games.

 

Here's hoping that Coach Lanning and his staff can recruit at high level and coach them into a juggernaut. 

 

I won't settle for less.......

 

Alabama, Georgia, Clemson and Ohio State recruit 4/5 stars and coach them up. The Natty runs thru those schools.

 

Are we really hungry for the good Ole days?

It will be fun to watch how the USC and Oregon teams grow the next 5 years.

 

Who will coach and motivate their teams the best remains to be seen.

 

The HC experience that Riley has is an advantage. Shouldn't be over looked in the big picture.

 

Riley has a few disadvantages to overcome,  though. 

 

Facilities.......enough said!

 

Also, the high priced talent at USC has seemed to quit on the season when their top goal(s) can't be reached.

 

They lose interest. Duck fans experienced viewing this after the Utah loss. No teams, with this much talent, should get their hat handed to them twice in 2 weeks. By the same team.

 

Whether it was coaches, players or both. Oregon looked disinterested.

 

This happens most years at USC.

 

Either way, these 2 programs need to dominate the PAC. Some years both should make the expanded CFP.

 

Then get ready to lead a new expanded PAC or move on to a super conference.