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Wow, The thought hadn’t occurred to me. Pull scholarships and just hold intramural tryouts for positions! Field a brigade of Joes for a year! I wonder if fans would go for that. Just to stick it to lawyers and players. It would be comical to watch a bunch of kids G5 caliber playing for Blue Bloods. If fans had the patience to let that play out, man. Who cares what Fox, CBS, ESPN and NBC think. Too bad that won’t happen. It’s getting to the point I might only watch games I put money on. Which I wouldn’t really do. I’d just want the results of the game in that case. Since it’s all about money, who cares who the players are, I just want my money.
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DeBoer vs Lanning: Who Wins a Natty First?
Mike West replied to Steven A's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
I agree. Oregon is threatening the status quo. Now it's time to perform. I sincerely hope we not only win the title this year, but totally dominate. Leave no room for discussion. I want OBD to do some baaaaaad things to some reputable blue bloods. No mercy. Pure ruthlessness. I want fan bases to hate us for decades. We don't have talent stacked like Kirby and Nick have had. Dominating in this environment would make winning ever the sweeter. We were abused for decades. I want redemption. -
So it all comes down to development. I like our strategy. These kids need to show me they're legit. You get paid when you perform. There are too many 4&5 star misses to be throwing away money on hope and a prayer. I am so glad I don't have to tolerate people expecting me to pay them based on their potential.
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Yep, They're trying to claim 5-3 in the SEC is like going 11-1 in the ACC or Big 12. Funny how South Carolina, one of those bubble teams, almost always loses to a real playoff contender in Clemson. Any guess why the SEC rarely schedules OOC teams capable of defeating them? It's a joke. The SEC has leverage because their fans are far more glued to their games than the rest of the country. Let's be real though. Illinois beat South Carolina. Michigan outclassed Bama. It's been that way during bowl season for years. But somehow, the SEC really believes they are deeper than the B1G. Show us in the regular season SEC. Tuck away your two to three games that gets you closer to 10 wins and play OOC teams that are threats to your record. I didn't see Illinois and Michigan pulling upsets last year, but I'm not surprised given that the vaunted SEC schedule only confirms they play each other tough because they're so familiar with each other. All the SEC has done is proven their propaganda narrative works. It doesn't hold up in the postseason - but it sure works wonders in the regular season. I still remember Les Miles calling out Pete Carrol the year they shared a title. But he didn't dare schedule him. Because ole Pete owned the SEC. And Miles knew it. Right now, the middle of the B1G is clearly as deep as the SEC. After all USC did defeat LSU last year didn't they? That's why the SEC avoids competition in the regular season.
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Man, Sabrina has really upped her game this year.
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So, I attribute this loss to win fatigue. Sabrina dropped 34 in a losing effort. Clark finished nearly pulling off a triple double ( 32 points, 9 assists, 8 rebounds). I will say this. The Fever aren’t as good as the Liberty, but they are close. Indiana is legitimate. They are going to lose some games they shouldn’t, but they have shown they will give the big girls a run for their money. The first game wasn’t a fluke. This rout demonstrates they can dominate a strong opponent on an off day. That is a huge statement. Now we get to see how they handle the Liberty in New York. That will reveal just how much a contender they actually are.
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Fever are ahead at halftime. It’s difficult to win ten straight, in any sport. Clark has 25 points. Sabrina 14. Clark is the only Indiana player that has scored in double figures. That lead wont hold if Clark doesn’t get help from two others scoring more than 10.
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I had to think about this issue for awhile. Sankey just bamboozled the ACC and Big 12. They are going to regret going the 5-11 route. It essentially means the ACC and Big 12 will fill ONE SLOT EVERY YEAR IN THE PLAYOFFS. So basically, Clemson, FSU and Miami are going to start fighting for recruits with schools like USuC, Nebraska, Indiana, the Fuskies and Illinois on a regular basis, because all it will take is any of those teams winning 10 and the ACC is cooked. Reputation doesn't matter anymore. The ACC is Miami,FSU Clemson and Notre Dame. Norte Dame gets a free pass with 9 wins, with two against those three. The Big 12 probably wouldn't get two in if both had 11 wins because their SOS is totally weak (and all you have to do is watch them play-you can see the vast difference in talent -mid level SEC teams would storm the Big 12). The winner of course, will be the SEC. All it will take is teams like Auburn defeating Baylor, and Georgia Tech beating Colorado and the discussion is over. And the SEC will crow for centuries about the mediocrity in the Lesser Two. The only thing the lesser Two have going for them is scheduling. They'll have to start scheduling the P2 regularly. They'll have to demand it, in fact call out the P2 so they can schedule OOC games regularly. This is going to be interesting. The SEC knows this is a move to get five minimum every year. Petitti will have to explain himself because it just might impact the B1G as well. We know for a fact the SEC won't dare schedule the B1G in OOC games if this model goes through. Like I said, plenty of SEC teams will only need to defeat one SEC power to demand their spot. With an 8 game conference schedule, Vandy, Mississippi State, Kentucky, are gimmie wins for above average SEC teams. Add bad years for another two or three and you're looking at an easy five win SEC record. With the four high school teams they play, 9-3 is a playoff berth. That won't be as easy for the middle of the B1G to accomplish.
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Mudslide, Great point on market value. But is that really NIL? To me, that's more a signing bonus for joining the team. Of course, we don't know what the language is in the House Settlement, so what exactly are we paying for when we shell out $10M a year to a serious unknown entity? I'm quite sure all those attorneys feeding off the system are salivating at their chance to slop off the gravy train. It really is a matter of the schools being wise. The NFL is already stupid. But they're all pulling in $500M a year in revenue. That is not going to happen in college football. Ever. So if it's an arms race (including the portal), this year is more important than last year. Draft picks and a Natty appearance are a must for OBD. We need 10 kids plus drafted in the NFL this year. And that Natty appearance depends on a hell of a performance from kids we most haven't seen. If we're going to keep up, we're going to have to stomp on at least one Blue blood, if not two. Nothing says more than laying the wood on a blue blood. If course, I'm hoping one of them is The Ohio State.
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Could Oregon Be Seeing TWO Steps Ahead in Recruiting?
Mike West replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
And that is the question. Can you name any of these high school kids of the to of your tongue that have endorsement deals? Anybody? Any of these kids signing hundreds of autographs at elite camps? And I mean sitting down for two hours straight. I agree there should be no limit to earning money on your NAME LIKENESS AND IMAGE I'll be the first to congratulate a high school kid that can demonstrate he is worth more than Caitlin Clark ( Mr. Bowman, where is your Nike,Adidas, or Under Armour deal?). Do you think those $2M deals are going to hold under scrutiny? I'm curious about which local car dealership is going to shell out more than $500,000 to a prospect over four years. And will the commercials start running the moment the kids gets on campus? We KNOW who the current players are. And yes, I've seen some freshman in the spring I'd drop some money on. But I'm not cutting a $10M check on my grandmother. And she's dead. I can bet my bottom dollar both my grandmas get $10M before some schmuck that hasn't played a second of fall football at the next level. Both would be great in commercials too. , -
Portal Killed the Recruiting Star
Mike West replied to FishDuck Article's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Great article Darren as usual, I say we can't even rely on signing LOI anymore. Look what happened with Dallas Wilson this year. I am begging to believe it may be better to sign four or five highly ranked recruits that have the kind of character to grow into their respective rating, and really scout the diamonds in the rough and develop them. Offensive Line especially comes to mind. It is possible to develop a high 3 star OL into a high 4 star performer. Look at Dillon Gabriel. That dude is money. Was that apparent before he got to Central Florida? Furthermore, when Gabriel was at Central Florida before going to Oklahoma? And others like Derrick Harmon, and Cam Ward before he got to WSU. The Portal has become more important than high school recruiting now. You can find real talent after a year of play. I don't like that OBD lost as many 2026 recruits as we have, but damn, there are at least 20-30 that will be as good or better that play college football this year. Those are the guys to scout, and recruit this season. Not to mention the kids on the roster now (like Darren emphasized) that will contribute in the coming year. OBD has a very loaded roster, and its going to perform way better than most of the top recruits will now, or their entire career. They wanted NFL money, its time for NFL cutting the potential and paying the performers. The smart kids, including kids that aren't really looking for "the bag" should know by now OBD are developing kids that will get drafted. Thus, I hope Lanning is actually scouting Sophomores that play this year, and any Freshman that played last year that are looking for a title and want to get drafted. ESPN has their top 300. I say only 100 from that list are worth signing. It's find those in that group, and maybe find diamonds in the rough, and find the proven players that will be around for at least 2 years in the portal. These "$2M" kids can take a hike. If a high school kid isn't bringing me $5M, I'm not justifying signing an NIL deal worth $1M. He is a liability, not an asset. He isn't going to start year 1, and that is a waste of money instead of signing a portal guy that will play the year you sign him. -
Mudslide, Did you even know who this kid was before this year? Again, pointing to our "Legal Analyst"-Mr. Jon Joseph: under the House Settlement, does the contract specify justification for an NIL deal? Could Mark Bowman secure a Caitlin Clark type Nike Deal for $28M? In other words, can a high school phenom actually draw a fan following to the degree fans wait hours to get his autograph, want to buy his jersey, want some other collection item like a signed sock? If so, then $10M a year makes sense. If not, how does any high school prospect justify anything close to $1M because he somehow has a brand? I surely would like to know if the commission that is supposed to regulate these contracts is salivating at the thought of getting sued. For I do not see a single high school player that has anywhere near the draw of Caitlin Clark, much less the demand from the marketplace that would start marketing a kid at that financial level. I don't believe the conferences need to cap the NIL Market, they just need to force the kids to prove their Name, Likeness, and Image would justify multi million dollar marketing contracts. It sure would be nice if Congress actually earned their money and legislated laws that actually do something for this country(instead of pocketing tons of money for legislation earmarked for benefitting the highest bidders). If there ever was a time to put some common sense to college sports and the interests of the players (instead of allowing these snakes to claim high school kids are worth millions of dollars-what a joke), now would be the time.
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Texas Blocks Ohio State Game-Time Change...
Mike West replied to GatOrlando's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
I'm starting to feel the 12 team playoff is as good as it gets. It appears the B1G and the eSECpn want to wait until their current contracts end before just taking their beach ball away and going to another beach. South Carolina, Bama and Ole Miss simply screwed up. They lost to non playoff teams, and feel they still deserved a shot at the playoffs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Ole Miss stomp pedestrian Wake Forest, but South Carolina and Bama lost to comparable B1G teams? SEC coaches still want to preserve their regular season records, while claiming they have the toughest schedules (yeah, two Pluto State caliber opponents really makes up for that tough run against Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Arkansas, Mississippi State, Auburn, and a misunderstood Oklahoma. Your conference has nothing to cry about when nearly half your teams won half or less of their conference games (especially when that number would climb if they played nine conference games). Not to mention, the SEC could (and probably would ) prove it by replacing Mater Dei Catholic with a Big12 and ACC opponent each. That would not only solve a big issue, it would shut up the ACC and Big12 for good ( because they would have to put up or shut up). I also do not want to disparage the SEC crew that visits this forum regularly, because despite my penis envy, I do like and respect the SEC. But let's be real, this decade has been Kirby and Saban. LSU got a B1G product in Joe Burrow, as did Texas for that matter. Tennessee, Florida and Auburn are like us old geezers-better days long past (though I REALLY like Florida this year-the road to the title game requires defeating a very loaded Gator team). So in essence, there are three gimmie playoff teams in both conferences, and frankly, I'm not impressed with potential as we saw what Niko was, what Ole Miss has been the past two years, and it didn't take much for Texas to claim their spot by winning games they should. In other words, win 10 or take your potential to a bowl game and lobby how tough you are while the real teams vie for a Natty. I say stay at 12 and force teams to win 10. Even better, have play in games interconference. Then Ole Miss can demonstrate they can beat the third best team in the Big12 or ACC. So can Bama, and South Carolina. Except they'd have to play the Illinois, Indiana, and Miami circa 2024. That makes more sense than saying my schedule is tougher than yours. In fact, that would make way more sense than the models proposed. As far as I see it, despite having a talent advantage, the SEC sounds like those snooty students that never worked a day in their life talking about how to run businesses. Playing two rounds of games against said lessor opponents in lessor conferences just might prove you really have a strength of schedule argument. This notion you earn a spot just because sounds rather elitist without providing some substance. Josh Pate always says you aren't what your record says you are. Well, let's just see that. Except you can't host a play in game if your record includes potato state as four of your victories. -
Oh wow! "Have a take, and Don't Suck". I remember when Jim Dome was in Santa Barbara waxing poetic way back in the late 80s. When he came to LA, he had regions battling each other nonstop. Listening to Cleveland and "Bugahaw"(Nebraska) to go off on each other every day was glorious. Jim Rome is a legend, and he was the one that blew up fan engagement on talk radio. That is is a beautiful take 30. And I totally agree. Expanding to 16 is ok. They just need to start the season early, and no byes.
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It's a Power 2 World, and OBD is Living in It!
Mike West replied to Jon Joseph's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Stewart Mandel over at the Athletic tried to pooh pooh the 8 automatic playoff berths in the 16 team playoff format. I laughed because frankly I see at least one of those conferences getting five playoff berths every year. I'd rather see moves to bolster the lessor two conferences by featuring more regular season games versus the P2 teams. Ratings would rise, some of that money could be a stipend for the G5 annually. And frankly, the G5 need to have their own playoffs. It's more than obvious they will never advance beyond their first game. Especially now that they can't afford the $20M budgets.