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Another mental mistake. Ball should be in the 25. I'll advised return cost us ten yards.
AND I'm beginning to think Dilly doesn't have confidence he can asmoke their DBs
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If Sewell finds that WR, he cuts his head off. But he looked at the QB.
If there ever is a pet peeves that makes me want to bench even stars like Sewell, that is it.
That should never be a complete pass. Ever.
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On 9/24/2022 at 3:31 PM, Mike West said:
I actually think outside the play calls inside the ten, it's been more the players. Interference on a punt, that's a mental mistake. One of many.
WSU is in this game because we still have Mario fog going on. Missed blocks, penalties and inconsistent play is killing the chance to snuff this opponent.
They getting freebies they don't deserve
Plus Dilly isn't going for the throat. I don't think they can cover our WRs. No need to play around, take advantage of the mismatches.
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On 9/24/2022 at 3:24 PM, Log Haulin said:
This is what I was looking for in the coaching staff. How the team looked in hostile environment. Red zone looks bad. Super unfocused. C'mon coach
I actually think outside the play calls inside the ten, it's been more the players. Interference on a punt, that's a mental mistake. One of many.
WSU is in this game because we still have Mario fog going on. Missed blocks, penalties and inconsistent play is killing the chance to snuff this opponent.
They getting freebies they don't deserve
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I don't think WSU can cover our WRs. I believe we should scorch earth(throw deep until they stop us), then use the running game to close out this game.
I hope I'm correct, and I hope Dilly sees it too. Let's see what happens.
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You know, Cam Newton paid $200,000 to go to Auburn. The SEC has done much worse than what Reggie Bush did. The NCAA always looked the other way. Always.
Oklahoma did it, UW did it, the entire South has dor time memorial.
Reggie Bush deserves his Heisman. He did it on the field. Would have gone to USC regardless, and the money he got had absolutely nothing to sok with his performance.
I'm no advocate for "cheating". When cheating is like breathing in one part of the court, and punished in another, he deserves his due.
UW got screwed out of national title for doing the exact same thing the South has done for DECADES.
It isn't cheating if it is routine in one part of the court. That is called STANDARD PRACTICE.
Therefore, I believe Reggie Bush should call things as they are. Standard practice. And if he gets cheated out of his trophy, they all should. And everyone knows the NCAA refuses to scrutinize the Southern schools.
I'm don't accept hypocrisy and corruption. Reggie Bush was a target of both.
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Same damn play again. No imagination inside the ten(WSU has them figured out, and one of Arroyo's plays would work very well inside the ten right now).
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We're a better team, and are about TD to ten point better team. Little things are killing our mojo despite their good play
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I've also seen multiple missed assignments (blocks)
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265 Total yards to their 165. Wasted.
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Didn't like the play call,hated the execution. They went right back to the same play instead of something else first.
Inaccurate throw, but not a good play selection in my opinion
I'm completely frustrated. We were about to lock down this game. Now they think they really have a shot to win this game. And now they do
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On 9/17/2022 at 7:54 PM, Charles Fischer said:
That was not directed at you or any OBD members, but the media who were not always kind to Oregon in their analysis.
In terms of predictions, I've been humbled so many times that I'm just trying to hit 50% where I can.
Oh I know. I got a good look at OBD last week and they looked out of sync. It bothered me so much I expected a loss.
One big factor is home field advantage . If we can show up in the road, and play better than this week ( rinse and repeat), this team will be pretty good.
Out of nowhere, the conference is playing well against stiff competition. Means we have to up our game.
Very good showing today. Can't wait to see the tape.
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On 9/17/2022 at 4:24 PM, Charles Fischer said:
That was the million pundits who don't know much about Oregon slapping their forehead. How many are eating crow right now? Can I cook that egg on your face for you?
I'm certainly one of them
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On 9/16/2022 at 5:43 PM, Mike West said:
I believe the OBD Defense matter more in this game. I am astounded at the performance gap in comparison to the talent on the field.
I believe the safeties (both of whom I'd provide splinters to instead of making them ride the bench-so they can stand up instead of sit down during the game) are horrible. I'm talking about Hill and Stephens.
I, Fifty nine year old Mike West, feel more comfortable running in slow motion (in comparison to the players at their age) than trusting both of these safeties. My knees hurt, my hips hurt, and I STILL feel I can cover better than both of them.
They don't recognize what WRs to ignore in coverage, when to shut down the tight ends, when to shut down those crazy crossing patterns teams feast on now (you know, the ones where two TEs run down and in routes and a WR trails behind one of them as a safety valve).
They, unlike Georgia, sit twenty yards off the line of scrimmage to start plays. Can't cover a ten yard seam route from there, can't catch a WR on the other side of the field if he catches even a post route.
I could sit at twelve yards off the LOS and shut down both. Just standing still (now I wouldn't be able to support a corner on a fade route, but he'd know that-and that is the point- force the QB to chose other routes on my side of the field).
They don't tell the LBs what to cover based in formation. I've seen formations run by opponents that bug me because I know the Safeties don't know how to shut them down.
That is why Bo Nix will not be a factor in this game unless those two players stop playing as if they don't even exist on the field.
This success of this team hinges on pass coverage. For the rest of the year. I didn't like what I saw in the Eastern Washington game. We need new safeties. Any volunteers?
Well!!!
I gladly stand corrected. The defense is clearly taking care of Business. I can gladly retire from bad mouthing the safety unit
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I believe the OBD Defense matter more in this game. I am astounded at the performance gap in comparison to the talent on the field.
I believe the safeties (both of whom I'd provide splinters to instead of making them ride the bench-so they can stand up instead of sit down during the game) are horrible. I'm talking about Hill and Stephens.
I, Fifty nine year old Mike West, feel more comfortable running in slow motion (in comparison to the players at their age) than trusting both of these safeties. My knees hurt, my hips hurt, and I STILL feel I can cover better than both of them.
They don't recognize what WRs to ignore in coverage, when to shut down the tight ends, when to shut down those crazy crossing patterns teams feast on now (you know, the ones where two TEs run down and in routes and a WR trails behind one of them as a safety valve).
They, unlike Georgia, sit twenty yards off the line of scrimmage to start plays. Can't cover a ten yard seam route from there, can't catch a WR on the other side of the field if he catches even a post route.
I could sit at twelve yards off the LOS and shut down both. Just standing still (now I wouldn't be able to support a corner on a fade route, but he'd know that-and that is the point- force the QB to chose other routes on my side of the field).
They don't tell the LBs what to cover based in formation. I've seen formations run by opponents that bug me because I know the Safeties don't know how to shut them down.
That is why Bo Nix will not be a factor in this game unless those two players stop playing as if they don't even exist on the field.
This success of this team hinges on pass coverage. For the rest of the year. I didn't like what I saw in the Eastern Washington game. We need new safeties. Any volunteers?
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BYU 34-23
1 TO
0 sacks
250 passing yards
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On 9/13/2022 at 12:08 PM, GODUCKS15 said:
If Bo throws 3 pics and Oregon looses to BYU by 2 TD's then I think it's time for a change. Anything less than that and he stays.
I don't think this is going to be up to Bo. BYU looks better. Film doesn't lie. I think BYU wins this game. ( sometimes I even surprise myself, in January there was no way I'd even consider Oregon losing, but I watched closely last Saturday. We look disoriented- even scoring 70 points).
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I want to see a huge improvement in play at the safety position.
They are my biggest concern. They made the LBs and CBs look really bad.
If they have to start 20 yards behind the LOS they need to be replaced.
We witnessed 100 mph safety play from Georgia. I'm seeing 80 mph play from our safety group. And they line up out of position and they read poorly.
A safety is supposed to quickly asses if they have to cover a fade,post or corner route. They are then to shut down the seam if the area they cover is "clear" ( in other words those routes are not a threat). Same for the dig route (as secondary responsibility).
TEs get open because OCs design plays to clear them out of the seam area they (safeties) naturally start from. If they sit on the seam route, they can cover pass and run lanes easily. Most especially if they have track speed.
Our two most recent safeties (both NFL employees) we're excellent at reading pass schemes and closing to cover them quickly. Both of our current safeties have not learned to for three years now.
I thought Bennett Williams had learned that role well. But he isn't playing in that spot anymore. I believe that is a mistake.
Heck I want to suit up now. At least there would be a reason for looking so bad (and I'd get to play RLOL).
Oh yeah, 72 points means the Ducks are expected to score 44 to 48 points. They better. Or we have a serious problem on our hands.
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On 9/3/2022 at 11:24 PM, Charles Fischer said:
When Coach Lanning was asked about Bo's second interception....
"The second take-away is one that Bo would certainly want back. They were playing buzz coverage into a quads look and (he) forced a throw we don't
need to force. Bo knows that. He knows that the minute he walked off the field."
Are you kidding me? A graduate student with all those exalted SEC games under his belt and he has to learn that yet?
So many of you know that one of my favorite management expressions that applies to FishDuck Volunteers, new employees, football players and football coaches is..."Greatness and Weakness Emerge Early," and "when it is weakness--you can never turn it into greatness; you will have to work very hard just to bring him/her up to average."
So the key is not spend tons of time on Dodo Birds, but go find Eagles. Many say that, "I can turn him into an Eagle," but that never works. You cannot send Dodo Birds to Eagle School...it doesn't work that way. If you want Eagles....you have to go out and find them. Coaching Bo up is a waste of time because if he is making mistakes like this as a fourth-year starter,....he isn't going to change.
You are better off finding an Eagle for the long-term.
Let me tell you why I believe he threw that pass. I noticed Georgia sat on that seam route ALL DAY. This play was in the third series, and if you remember the first interception they weren't sitting in the seam route (yet).
The safeties stopped moving backwards because they knew they could handle Oregon's speed by that time in the game.
Secondly, OUR SAFETIES NEVER SIT ON SEAM ROUTES. This goes for practice as well. So "no Bo" never sees that (especially in practice). That pass is a timing throw. It requires releasing his throw a step before the TE or WR reaches the guy that is covering him.
That is why Nix threw that pass so quickly.
He hadn't seen a time in the game when the safety sat on that seam.
Now here is another aspect to the whole thing. That safety knew to sit on the seam BASED ON OUR FORMATION and the type of play that formation naturally exploits.
I don't have time to show it on film, but if you noticed, the defense didn't bite on the fake bubble screen. That's because they close extremely well. They know they can shut that down.
So Georgia basically took away the next option on that kind of play: the seam. They probably knew it was coming based on film study.
Now get this. In practice - and especially after watching our safety play all game, our safeties leave a ten yard hole on that play. Nix practiced against that all week. He was mentally drilled into thinking that open space would be there.
Georgia is coached to adapt "in game". They already took away the deep outside pass at that point of the game. They started to squeeze natural open windows closed. Dilly hadn't recognized that yet. Neither did Nix.
Dilly ( thus Nix) played right into that "trap".
There are other aspects of Bo's game that are frustrating. But it is very clear to me " the rookies" as I call them aren't advanced enough to make the kind of adjustments Nix can. And if Nix develops a more keen sense of seeing the whole field, and stays patient enough to find his receivers by sequence he will flourish like the other two can't yet.
TT and JB clearly don't execute like Nix does. It's been two years and two supposedly less talented QBs. Both coaching staffs feel that way.
One last thing: our OL will protect him better than Auburn did. He needs to recognize that and stay patient.
I hope everyone gets used to the fact Bo is simply better than his backups.
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On 9/4/2022 at 4:26 AM, PittDuck said:
I find it hard to believe that either TT or JB are that much worse than bone x. That they are so much worse they don’t even get a chance when you are down 28-0.
What we witnessed yesterday was a train wreck. I hope and pray DL and this coaching staff can turn this thing around.
They are.
It's already out there to most football experts. If either were as good as Nix they would have played yesterday.
Two years running is a statement, not an opinion.
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On 9/5/2022 at 8:54 AM, GODUCKS15 said:
Not impressed with Bo Pix. But not jumping on the Ty train either. I say let DL get some time in as an HC and let the team gel a bit more. Lots of learning curves for both sides.
Somebody well versed in football said it. TT didn't see the game for a reason. He is simply not good enough to beat an "average" QB.
It is truly that simple.
Bo Nix needs to recognize his limits. He is forcing things he doesn't need to force. The play calling was excellent. Bo needs to see the whole field. I don't think he studies it. I think he makes snap decisions.
Fortunately this IS coachable. Bo should reach out to Anthony Brown. Learn a few things. Bo seems to want to make the highlight reels.
In my opinion you can score all day in Georgia, but they make you take your damn time to the point it is boring. Especially if you don't have the talent they have.
I've studied them all summer. They take away all the natural gummies and offense can exploit. They are extremely fast closers of space. Their pursuit is unrivaled, and a good portion of that is coached.
It's easier with that kind of talent.
Back to Bo: he gets way ahead of himself. Against any team, a QB has to see it all, not just what he wants. That is Bo's problem. He is trigger anxious. But his sense of timing is flawless. What I believe he needs to do is map out the entire field, then assess what's really open, and what's next.
Just my thoughts. If I get the time, I will spell out what I mean on film. It's already out there on Nix. I'd hammer that concept into his head because I see upside to his game I'f he'd become more of a student in that aspect.
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On 9/5/2022 at 1:26 PM, 2002duck said:
Until Oregon is in the Big 10 I'll strongly be in favor of playing teams like Georgia. Our offensive and defensive lines looked pretty rough. As far as I'm aware, those are weak points in our recruiting arsenal as well. Oregon absolutely must pay top dollar for the biggest and best line players.
First the original question: woodshed loss to the standard is good because you know how much work you have to do. If you've got any winner mentality in you'll want to eventually inflict that much pain on your opponents sometimes this season.
As far as the lineman: we ran the ball well Saturday - so I'm am surprisingly please with the OL. Also NO SACKS.
I am disappointed with the DL, especially because they were so undisciplined. They committed the most serious error as far as I'm in concerned: they did not set the edge. Obviously, they are not Bama or Georgia caliber. They did handle the running game well enough. No pass rush. No nastiness on in that group...yet
The secondary was a disaster. For the life of me, you cannot make plays thirty yards down field. A wide out is either going to beat you on a fade or a post. You can't be that slow to run thirty yards past the LOS to cover those two routes.
But back to the lineman, they don't bother me. This game proved the team doesn't have the mental aspect of the game down to play to their skill level. They are talented enough to annihilate every damn team they face from this point on, most especially BYU and Utah.
They have two weeks to develop the mental aspect to beat up BYU.
Most of you will disagree with my opinion. But remember they beat tOSU in their house, undermanned. Utah obviously didn't do that, and BYU will never do that. We did. And it's not just because we already have, it's "why haven't we play to our level of talent the past five games"?
It's mental. These kids need to get their mental aspect correct. They're trying too hard. They're thinking too much. They're doubting themselves too much. This is a Zen thing right now. I truly believe that.
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On 9/5/2022 at 7:40 AM, Log Haulin said:
I don't think it is as simple as just having better players, however true it might be. Oregon players are in a position of unlearning Mario and learning Lanning.
Doing so and being competitive against the defending champs is a big ask in 8 short months.
Trying to use a similar defensive scheme in first game against an opponent that has been perfecting it for 6 years is tough.
Unfortunately Oregon had to go up against the master and innovator of our new scheme game one. Yikes!
One of the most astute comments made this weekend.
There are many moving parts in this battle to unwind Mario and install Lanning and company.
There are many skill sets the players must learn (for instance in my opinion Nix is milea ahead of TT and JB, but all three must drastically improve execution according to their respective skillets as all three can really play this game-my opinion there).
I actually liked what I saw of the offense. The lineman ARE that good (but not NFL good). Nix IS crisp, but he just does not stay patient and let the game come to him. TT DOES need to learn timing and be more accurate (same with JB).
I believe Lanning stared it accurately, the players now see what NFL good is. They all have skillets that can develop into top notch COLLEGE GOOD. The players must Matrix their way into developing their skills because most of the work is MENTAL.
I don't think the players get that yet. They are physically talented enough to play very, very well. They are not mentally developed enough to execute consistently. That is essential BECAUSE they don't possess the caliber of talent Georgia and Alabama have (they actually are about as good as Ohio State frankly, but Ohio State has the mental edge).
Whittingham has his players there. I believe Lanning is along those lines as a coach. He gets it. And I believe he is going to eventually get there.
I think the players believe their physical talent combined with strategy is all it takes. Championship caliber takes more effort than one really knows till they see it (like they saw Saturday).
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On 9/4/2022 at 6:13 PM, Pac10again said:
. Utah (easily the Pac's best team)
Completely disagree.
And Lanning will have to be successful here before he can leave.
As far as Utah... They lost to tOSU, whom we beat, and if we had an aggressive coach, we would have beat handily.
Had our head in the sand former coach been effective, we would have put the Utes' head on a platter. Anthony Brown proved that, McClendon ( I think that's his name) proved that.
We aren't SEC ready. That's all. UGA and Bama are a class ahead of SEC ready. If Lanning can recruit like Belotti did, he'll be fine. Bellotti had to recruit to match Pete Carroll, and he brought NFL sized guys to the table.
That's the task. Enough bubbas to handle the trenches, but the skill guys in to both backfields must be even better than Helfrich's 2015 running backs . The WRs and DBs gotta get bigger that 200. No more thin pancakes.
Waffle thick, Bullet train big and fast. It's time to recruit an NFL archetype. Forget four star mid sized sedans. They can't handle Mack Trucks.
That's why we got our heads handed to us. Mini Me doesn't cut it.
And no Utah didn't out muscle us, they outnumbered us. I've got tape to prove it( and even Auburn did that to Georgia last year, so I really can prove it).
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GameDay Thread! Oregon vs. Washington State
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For some reason, Silly just likes that RB route. Does not make sense to me.