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Penn St, Michigan, OSU and Wisconsin in that order.
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On 8/7/2022 at 5:27 PM, Augduck said:
I debated the merits of responding to this for no other reason than I am now a bit conflicted on MC.
I very much liked the hire when it happened. I thought he was the right guy at the right time and I honestly felt his passion about Oregon was real.
A Duck friend and I had a very vigorous debate at the time. He did not think MC was the right guy but is a die hard Duck like all of us and supported him. My friend said there were 'things' about MC he just didn't like. He said he wanted to keep those to himself because he knew I liked MC and didn't want to turn it into a point of contention.
Fast forward- I was chagrined when I saw MC engage with the Stonybrook coach at the end of that game. That was not a good look.
I was at Stanford and MC was out coached and out schemed by a team with far less talent,. Frankly the ducks looked totally unprepared that day and I get it that things were unsettling because of Moorhead's health emergency. But that was not good in any way.
The next unsettling thing for me was Mario's dressing down of Kris Hutson on national TV.
I don't in any way agree with Rod Gilmore's accusation of racism but it was a very bad look and I was told some of the major donors were not happy with that either.
We've sliced and diced the Utah games ad nauseam so no need for more of that. But, all of these things altered my views of MC.
I will say I don't in any way think he was being deceptive when he went to Miami to see his mother, she obviously was seriously ill.
I do think though based on some partially confirmed rumors that MC was talking to Miami earlier than he said though.
The bottom line here,.MC could recruit, his coaching skills are questionable. Maybe he will grow. I do not wish him any I'll will.
BTW- my friend finally told me his thoughts on MC and I have to give him credit, he nailed it.
A lot to digest in this post and a lot of good takeaways.
I was somewhat skeptical regarding his hiring, just as your friend was...it felt hasty and Oregon didn't seem to look seriously for external candidates. I think the players advocating for him had a somewhat significant impact on the decision, which feeds into the loyalty discussion in another thread. I think ND may have just done the same thing with their coaching situation, hopefully it works out better for them than it did for the Ducks.
As far as the Stonybrook game, I need to go back and see what you're referring to there because I have no recollection of anything unusual at the end of that game. I agree 100% with the Hutson incident...both in how he handled Huston's penalty and the outrageous claims Rod was making on TV that were slanderous.
It seems you have a very measured approach to how you assessed the former coaches hiring...I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on the DL hiring and what your initial thoughts and gut feelings are.
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On 8/7/2022 at 8:22 PM, Charles Fischer said:
To Mario...two things are most important; toughness and loyalty. He played Anthony Brown almost exclusively because he was showing underclassmen to wait your turn because he will be "loyal" to you when your turn comes.
When Cristobal heard the boos, (and knew it was directed at him) I believe he regarded that as a betrayal by the "ungrateful" Oregon fans, the worst thing you can do in his world, and that is being "disloyal."
After he got over the shock? I believe he made the "I'm headed to Miami" decision, and that was when....the Cal game? In his mind--we deserved to be dumped, and did not deserve his full attention because of such terrible disloyalty.
"And I'm being underpaid as well."
My theory anyway, and while I could be wrong--it is a very plausible scenario.
Interesting take and I hadn't thought of it from the perspective that he see's/saw the Oregon fanbase as disloyal. If that is the case, I wonder if that played a part with some of the transfers that happened/nearly happened after his departure...those players also felt betrayed by the fans as well.
If DL kills it this year (I think he does) and brings back the positive energy that Oregon fans became accustomed to in the CK days, I think DL will earn that fan loyalty quickly...just as CK and many of the still beloved Duck player of that era did. If so, that should be another lesson learned for the miami corch, loyalty isn't guaranteed, it's earned.
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Can't remember what station I was listening to on SXM during my daily commute, but one of the dedicated sports stations was talking about the UGA/Ducks game and point spread. As they talked about the matchup, the "expert" said UGA will be challenged defensively because Oregon's O-line will be able to block UGA's front.
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I wasn't going to read this article at first because I'm pretty much over the miami coach, but I caved and gave it a click....so glad I did.
Love the term "corch" and the examples given to help define the term...those are perfect qualifiers and sure enough, the miami coach is the poster-boy of all things corch related.
Felt good to read that others felt pretty much the same way and saw the same ridiculously embarrassing short-comings and limitations of that clown. Can't wait to watch from afar as history repeats itself knowing we will never have to deal with that corch again.
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I'm not buying Clemson, USC, Texas, or NC State on that list because none of those teams have a chance this year. Maybe in 2-3 years I could see Clemson, USC and Texas getting close but why NC State is on the list is laughable.
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Oregon recruits nationally and doesn't need UT San Antonio on the schedule to get recruits from Texas. Oregon is a national brand and as mentioned multiple times on this site and by DL during his opening statement during the Pac media day, has the #7 national TV audience.
None of these schools move the needle to improve recruiting nor do they result in more TV viewers and revenue.
Oregon's best option is to go to the B1G. The next best option (also the most unlikely) is to join the SEC. If neither of those are an option, they should remain in an unchanged PAC-10. If that option isn't available, then they should be independent. If that isn't feasible, they can join the Big-12. Last and definitely least, if none of the previously mentioned options happen, then they can join the MWC with a couple other Pac schools and make tens of thousands of dollars per season in TV revenue.
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I read another article that mentioned NBC was trying to piggy back on the B1G media deal so they could broadcast B1G conference games in the evening. I assume that would help generate the necessary revenue so they can pay ND $75M/year which keeps them independent.
I assumed the B1G would bring on the 4 Pac teams but apparently, the money must not be lining up for that to happen. My gut says it's still going to happen and was always the plan because I have a hard time believing that USC and UCLA are going to play only teams in the mid-west and on the east coast.
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On 8/4/2022 at 11:58 AM, Haywarduck said:
I expect the offense to try and create separation instead of focusing on contact. It seemed like Mario was all about hitting people without understanding what putting people in space did for an offense. I think we will see the polar opposite with Dilly and Lanning.
I never thought of the offensive philosophy the way you just described under Mario, but I think you are exactly correct. It wasn't about out-smarting or out executing the opponent, it was about physical domination. It worked except when it didn't.
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Good interview. I can't wait to see Sewell and Flowe unleashed on opposing offenses. I hope both stay healthy and we get to enjoy watching them together wreak havoc.
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On 8/3/2022 at 11:46 AM, Charles Fischer said:
Nobody has attacked you; you are giving the impression that you are offended because so many disagreed with you? (Join the club!) That should not be a problem as we are all in a minority opinion at times, and mine about Cristobal was one for a couple of years, and I truly did get attacked on other sites. This was nothing...
I think we are in violent agreement here and my posts are being read in a tone that doesn't reflect the tone I'm intending to convey. I don't feel like I was attacked and definitely was not offended by anything said and so I apologize if I gave that impression.
When I saw your statement "I told you DazeNconfused was going to bring you football, but not always what we want to read" I wanted to make sure that you and DZNC understood I wasn't attacking the article. I was actually trying to laud the article as a great example of something that provoked reader engagement.
As an aside, I think what this article brought to the surface is that we, as a fan base haven't flushed out how we feel about Bo Nix transferring. This article opened that door.
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On 8/3/2022 at 10:34 AM, Charles Fischer said:
My friends, I told you DazeNconfused was going to bring you football, but not always what we want to read, but what we need to read. I did not like reading the facts at all, but I am grateful to have the information, and thus have more realistic expectations going into the season. This is an outstanding article, as the research and presentation has not been published anywhere like this.
DZNC does critical analysis, and I am thankful for it.
I also believe this is going to tell us a ton about how Dillingham is as a QB coach; the potential is there--can Dilly bring it to the surface?
Just to be clear, I appreciate DZNC's perspective...I just see some things differently and figured I would opine.
That said, this is a great article because it is backed up with supporting info but it also opens the door to contrary views and provides space for disagreement and discussion. To me that is ideal versus just having everyone give a thumbs up in agreement.
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On 8/3/2022 at 10:24 AM, Charles Fischer said:
Perhaps you missed the part in the article where DZC explained how it was Chad Morris who visited Oregon and installed the Oregon Spread at Clemson and began their Natty runs.
No I didn't miss it, but I think he is conflating the idea that because Chad Morris installed a spread offense and recruited players successfully for Clemson over a 4 year period, that Bo Nix can't be coached up beyond where he currently is.
To me, those two ideas are in-congruent and there are other contributing factors that better explain why he hasn't lived up to expectations...such as having only 1 season with an OC every year of his career so far. This requires learning a new offense and having your game tweaked by someone with a different perspective every year and then starting over the next year and doing it again. Not an ideal situation for a QB to get better year over year.
My second point was AB playing Pac defenses and Bo playing SEC defenses probably has more to do with AB's stats being better than AB being a better QB.
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On 8/3/2022 at 9:56 AM, Pennsylvania Duck said:
What is your prediction for regular season only? Where are losses?
Regular season with losses:
10-2 with losses at UGA and BYU. Season starts off tough but DL gets it going and builds momentum for next years title run (12-2 with postseason).
9-3 with losses to UGA, BYU, Utah. We get to the Pac championship game and lose again to Utah but go on to win the bowl game (10-4 with postseason)
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15-0 is my fantasy world best case winning the Mega Millions jackpot type scenario.
12-2 is my realistic best case scenario including winning the Pac championship and winning the Rose Bowl.
10-4 is what I think is most likely to happen including the Pac championship and a bowl game.
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On 8/2/2022 at 8:13 PM, HawaiiDuck said:
The west coast pod of USC, UCLA, Stan, Cal, OR, UW in the B1G would probably be the best for scheduling but I think there's going to be a lot of ruckus from OSU and WSU about being left behind.
I think WSU, OSU, Utah, and Colorado could all end up in the Big12 in this scenario.
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Good article with some valid points but there were a couple things that stood out as I was reading it.
After his freshman year, Bo lost his OC and you claim that "Malzahn made a home-run hire in Chad Morris." If Chad Morris was such a home run hire, he wouldn't have coached one year and then returned to coaching high school. His next OC may be a legit good coach (not sure if he is but I'll give the benefit of the doubt), but it is noteworthy that by Bo's third season, he is on his third OC and learning his third new offense in is as many years.
The second thing that stood out was in regards to Bo Nix statistically vs Anthony Brown. Although it is true that AB had better stats than Bo, the differing level of competition the two QB's played against can't be overlooked. I am pretty confident that if they swapped places, AB's stats would be worse.
All that said, I'm still hoping that TT wins the job this fall but I also have to reconcile with reality based on what I witnessed during the spring game.
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On 8/2/2022 at 1:09 PM, Pac10again said:
I disagree the players have an opportunity at a great education for free. If they choose to not take advantage of that they failed themselves.
Bingo...decisions have consequences.
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He's going to have the type of season that gets him drafted in the first round.
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I think it's interesting that the focus seems to be on markets vs actual viewership. Who cares if the bay area is a big market when nobody in that area watches Cal and/or Stanford live or on tv.
I don't think Cal gets an invite if ND joins the B1G.
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On 7/31/2022 at 4:23 PM, Charles Fischer said:
No...he won't, IMHO. He believes he can win a 'Natty here, has the staff, the facilities--and a loaded team with talent compared to rebuilding somewhere else, and trying to win in the SEC.
After he wins us a 'Natty....he will go to the NFL. (You heard it here first!)
I don't think he goes to the NFL for a while even if he wins a Natty. The impression I get is that he wants to build a power house like Bama that becomes a mainstay in the playoff. Once that happens, I imagine he will test the waters in the NFL, but I'm guessing once he's won 3 or more titles.
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On 7/31/2022 at 5:55 PM, OhioDuck said:
Yeah, call me a skeptic. I need to know a few things about this.
One, how was the data gathered? Is this good science, an educated guess or just a guess.
Two, what exactly is a fan? Are we talking, "Yeah, I kinda like the Ducks, those uniforms are cool." or are we talking, "I give half of my income to Ducks athletics, I bleed Green and Yellow!"
The article Fish Duck posted seems more likely to me.
Agree 100%...there's almost no information even provided as an output but what is provided, is ambiguous at best.
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My gut says that the B1G media deal is being negotiated with a couple contingencies in mind. One for if ND joins and the addition of specific Pac schools if that happens. A second contingency for if ND doesn't join and a slightly different group of schools joins. I suspect that Oregon is solidly in both contingency plans and their membership will be voted on shortly after the new deal is completed.
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On 7/30/2022 at 2:57 PM, Pac10again said:
Don't hate me. Freezing weather, and much stiffer recruiting wars against Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Michigan State. If Oregon is a 3-loss team for more than a few years in the BIG then we're finished as recruiters. Today's kids want instant gratification. In the Pac we will be king. In the Big we're just little brother... I think we have a serious chance in playoffs in the PAC-10, no chance in the Big.
Yes, we caught Ohio State flat once. But they beat the team that killed us twice in the bowl game. They are that good every year. Just saying...
My biggest takeaway is this...would you rather see great games against great competition throughout the season (yes, with some tough losses mixed in), or watch blowouts most weeks in an effort to go unbeaten against poor competition, for the opportunity to play against 1 or 2 exciting opponents at the end of the season in the playoff?
I'm an "enjoy the journey" kinda person so I want to watch Oregon play incredible games again Penn St, Michigan, Ohio St, Wisconsin, Michigan St, and occasionally the So Cal schools as they fight for a playoff spot. Some years they may miss the playoffs but that's ok...gotta have the downs to enjoy the ups.
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What B1G Football Road Game Would You Like?
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We must have been sitting pretty close to each other because that was my view as well.