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Christmas has come early!! Been waiting all year for this. Haven't watched any yet, but I most certainly will. The thumbnails on YouTube are classic:

Please GT, for the love. Please make this happen. Miami has already deserved a loss twice. I want angry Mari Cristbal in the post game press conference . . . PLEASE!!!

Brock Purdy makes $800K - $900K a year. Approaching silly town with all this money for unproven high schoolers.

Do you know what records DG is on pace to break? Are they Career or Single Season records? Since the Heisman is single-season excellence award, I'm less inclined to consider career achievements. Especially when the records are accomplished by longevity alone. If I recall, I think one is career passing yards currently held by . . . Case Keenum with other members of the top-5 consisting of Timmy Chang, Landry Jones, and Graham Harrell. While Jeanty is chasing Barry Sanders. Look, I feel like in all the back and forth on OBD (not just with you) about why I give a slight edge to Jeanty, that I'm coming across as a Dillon Gabriel hater. Or, that I don't want DG to win it, and that I don't want the Ducks to have a Heisman winner. That could not be further from the truth. I'd be ecstatic if he won, and I'd remind everyone I talk football with that he won it . . . to the point of being annoying, likely. I just look at Jeanty and see a RB that looks next level in his vision, quickness, and breakaway speed, and that's chasing a record set by--IMO--the single greatest running back of all time in Barry Sanders. And he's doing it while every defense he goes up against--including Oregon--knows there's only ONE objective . . . Stop Jeanty.

In the very constrained hypothetical presented: "Poof"! Today DG is now the BSU QB and Jeanty is now the Ducks' RB, and the Ducks now have to deal with backups at QB? Well of course I wouldn't do that. But I don't think a simple "swap test" is the appropriate measuring stick to pick Heisman winners, unless the Heisman is exclusively a QB award. 99 times out of 100, if a team's excellent (or even above average) QB is "swapped" out (now relying on backup QBs) for an excellent skill position player, that team will be worse off. May as well cancel the Heisman Award since the Davey O'Brien Award exists. As I mentioned in an earlier comment, football is challenging due to having very unique positions with very little cross-over in roles and responsibilities. Assuming a more realistic scenario where Oregon has a more than competent QB--but not Dillion Gabriel--AND now have Jeanty . . . I'd be very open to that. In fact, here are some prior Duck non-Heisman QBs (not really considered for Heisman) that I would take today in combination with Jeanty: Clemens, Masoli, D. Thomas, V. Adams, J. Herbert I think the Heisman award should compare players/positions relative to the current year's active players, as well as consider historical context. Dillion Gabriel is an excellent QB. I'm not insulting him by slightly preferring Jeanty for the Heisman. I just don't think he's having a historic, Heisman-worthy year (SO FAR; that could change). However, when I Google Jeanty, nearly every article says "Jeanty Chasing History". I think that's awesome, and Heisman-worthy.

Excellent, excellent point!!

Would Dillon Gabriel get your Heisman vote if he played for Boise State?

So awesome!!

Yes, complimentary football by the Ducks is on point.

Yeah, it's hard to tell with Jeanty. Given the circumstances, the only way to know is to see how well he does in the NFL against the best competition in the world. All I can say is I would trade him for Jordan James today . . . no offense to James. I'm not sure DG screams Heisman to me. Similar to what @David Marsh indicated about not being impressed with the Heisman candidates. I love DG's deep ball, but the offense hasn't really flourished like in years past. I just think the Ducks have a great all-around team with a very good QB. But!! If I could give the Heisman to the Ducks' defense, I would.

Great article that has me indecisive. Picking the "best" player in college football (or NFL), is WAY too hard. There are too many players with very specific and unique responsibilities . . . which is why football is the ultimate TEAM sport. Football has way more variables and circumstances that impact the outcome of games. I'm not convinced that the best teams have "the" best player. IMO, the best teams have the best collection of players, coaches, staff, etc . . . and sometimes the best player as well. Would Dillon Gabriel win the Heisman if Oregon's O-Line continued to play like it did in the first two games? Even DG--arguably the best QB in college football--can't overcome that. I'd leave the Heisman a regular season award and have separate awards for the playoffs. I also lean towards Jeanty for Heisman because he appears to be a generational talent at RB. I realize he doesn't play in a P5 conference, but if he were suddenly on a legitimate P5 school, and roster, I think he would still dominate. He's the only individual player in college football I tune in to watch.

Excellent uniforms!!

I would have never gotten on that long board in the first place . . . and a crash was inevitable

Agreed, Indiana would make me very nervous; especially if they casually put up 40+ points like they have all year. BUT, my hatred for tosu is unending. I don't want them in the CFP at all; it would bring me pure joy for them to miss.

Totally agree! I find it strange that losing to the Ducks would require a complete breakdown and reconstruction of the defense, as opposed to some adjustments. At this point, I'm hoping Indiana can take down tosu; don't really want a rematch.