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Barf but then again I'm no fashionista, as long as the players love them.
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My philosophy is always the same--take care of our own business and good things will happen. Depending on other teams' wins or losses to backdoor our way in just doesn't make sense IMHO.
Sure it's fun to speculate (and I'll damn sure be watching the game!), but if we beat both Utah and UCLA then the results of their matchup don't matter.
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Admittedly this one of my pet peeves, but talk of winning out in the first half of the season is a bit premature. In addition, since no P12 team has ever went undefeated in conference play it seems pretty unlikely this year especially given the strength (or at least parity) of the conference.
One game at a time, we get down to our November stretch without another loss and then maybe we can talk about running the table. Just my humble opinion.
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Absolutely happy with where we are now. Pre-season I figured our best case in September was 3-1, worst case 1-3.
Next step beat two teams we should beat. Checked that box with the Stanford win, now onto Zona. Conference road games are always a concern and bad things have happened to us in the desert at night, but that could also be said of the Palouse and we managed to come away with a win there, plus Wazoo is a much better team. Take care of business and we head into our bye week 5-1 looking good.
As Bellotti used to say, "The games you remember are played in November." Obviously UCLA will be a very tough game, but regardless our season really boils down to those last three games in November and fortunately we get two of them at home.
If we can shore up our pass defense and get rid of the stupid penalties, then we should finish strong.
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On 9/30/2022 at 12:54 PM, Steven A said:
Also, Dodd is a CBS guy who just happens to work for the company that secured BIG rights.
Might him blowing smoke try to influence
1) UC regents in that hey, let ucla go since the other 4 will be following soon.
2) If the 4 join the BIG, then a West Coast division can be created and the travel issues minimized, so again Regents, set the Bruins free.
3) Torpedo current Pac 12 negotiations.
4) Click bait.
Agree. Dodd is a hack that is always slamming the Pac 12.
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Let's just call it what it is, so far a pretty big disappointment considering DL's background. Porous pass defense, especially on opponents third and long, same as last year. It was looking like this team was a lot more well-coached and disciplined, but mental errors and personal fouls on third and forever just about cost us the Wazoo game.
That said our run defense is solid and we did get two turnovers including a pick-six. In addition credit them with the most critical stop, the three and out in between our last two possessions. Without that we almost certainly lose the game.
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Never ever ever ever ever ever do we need anything from USC.
We take of our own business and what USC does is irrelevant. I'm sick of the national media fawning all over USC like they're the second coming.
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Cold day in hell I pull for a CA team over one from Oregon.
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On 9/20/2022 at 4:29 PM, David Marsh said:
I'm not sure about that... If lets say Oregon and Washington were to join the B1G why wouldn't Fox consider putting Oregon v UCLA on a late night start time, especially if one team isn't ranked and not looking too competitive (that would be UCLA for those wondering).
Oregon v Stanford starts at 8pm this year because Stanford doesn't look so good and we are on the west coast.
That's a fair point if there's a west coast pod, but I seriously doubt you'd have B1G Central/Eastern time zone teams playing at 8:00 PM PST, so there would have to be a lot fewer.
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Hopefully start times are part of GK's negotiation. I would like to see nothing later than 7:00 and night games distributed more evenly, not at the whim of effing ESPN.
I'm feeling a lot more positive about the conference, but still a B1G invite would end late night games.
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No question, he's elevating the play around him. Night and day difference when TT, took over (not all his fault of course, but just look at how the offense tanked when he came in).
Bo's a leader and his guys are rallying around him.
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8:00 PM??? You've gotta be frickin' kidding me. If we joined the B1G this wouldn't happen.
Not sure how the streaming schedule would work but if it means fewer night games then I'm all in.
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Only downside I see is not having access to the ESPN hype machine. Personally I can't stand the amount of power and influence they have in the sport, but that's the world of college football and they ain't going away.
I've been looking for an excuse to cut the cord for years, all I really watch on cable is local news and live sports. I stream everything else and I guess I can survive without Jeopardy.
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If we're talking two teams I'm going with SDSU and UNLV. SDSU seems like a no-brainer and would probably accept B12 if offered, so it would be good to beat them to the punch. I believe I read that the only reason they aren't a research university is that they're not allowed to be one by the CA education system.
Sure UNLV stinks in football, but it looks like they're on the rise with Arroyo and they have a great stadium to play in. I always thought getting more into the Vegas market made sense, especially with GK's background. Oh and BTW they are already a research university if my memory serves correct. This would be be a speculative choice to be sure, but I think it would be a good investment in the future.
That would give us the San Diego and Las Vegas markets in exchange for LA. I'm convinced the Spoiled Children and UCLA are gone, good riddance to them. Let them struggle for a middle of the pack finish in the B1G while we compete for championships and CFP bids.
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Haven't watched a game on Prime yet, I'll be watching the Chargers tonight (hoping for 4K?). Interested to see how a live streamed game is compared to broadcast.
It seems to me that if Prime is our exclusive carrier then that will take a whole lot of eyeballs off the Pac. Granted streaming is the future but there is a pretty large audience that hasn't made that leap yet. I think Prime as a secondary carrier or maybe in partnership with the P12 Network might make sense. Regardless getting any other interested party involved will drive the price up. It would really suck to have ESPN set their own price.
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I don't ever remember a September as telling as this one. My pre-season prediction was going 2-2 in September with a loss to either BYU or WSU. Agree it's a little scary that dropping both of those games is a real possibility. Of course winning them both is a real possibility too!
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On 9/9/2022 at 11:20 AM, Steven A said:
Or, the new playoff $$ will lessen the TV deal monetary impact and being in the PAC ??, ACC or BIG 12 will be an advantage to the rigors of the SEC or BIG 10.
Seems to me that's a push at best since the SEC and B!G will also get that money. In addition it's looking like the CFP payout will be participation based, which means those two conferences will most likely get even more. Regardless, our path to playoff in the new P10 will be easier if we win the conference. A second place P10 team doesn't stand as much of a chance as a second or even third place SEC or B1G team.
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Holy cow, money makes the world go around! We all knew (or suspected) that we were headed for an NFL model at some point, I'm just a little surprised it's happening so soon. It's amusing too me that the chancellors that will actually collect the money went over the heads of the bickering conference commissioners and ADs to push this forward.
So what does this mean for Oregon? Being stuck in the new P-10 (or whatever) doesn't sound quite so devastating with a playoff spot pretty much reserved for the conference champ (assuming they're top 6) and possibly a second at-large bid.
That said the new TV deal will still be less than half what the B1G members are getting and consequently I fear the talent gap will only get worse. I still think we have to bail if invited to the B1G but our fallback is looking a lot better.
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If this was a "measuring stick" game then we know we're no where near a top-tier SEC team in either talent or execution. Sure there are mitigating factors, but you really can't sugar-coat that kind of beat down. I really thought our defense would keep it close for at least the first half, so my biggest disappointment was just how bad they looked.
This is a bit of a head-scratcher since DL is a defensive coach and we are paying TL a ton of money as a coordinator, you'd think we perform better. I guess the good news is that there's nowhere to go but up defensively.
Sans Bo's picks, I liked how our offense looked but yards and first downs don't win games unless drives get finished with points.
Sometimes football just boils down to blocking and tackling and this is a classic example. We didn't get badly out-schemed, they blocked really well so their offense was unstoppable and their efficient tackling kept us out of the end zone. Game over.
Small silver lining, no major injuries last year's tOSU game wound up being a bit of a Pyrrhic victory. And it's one game, time to flush this one and move on.
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As my moniker suggests, this isn't my first rodeo as a Duck fan. We've had some painful losses in the past (Nebraska 63-0 comes to mind), but also glorious wins (Oregon 59-FSU 20 in the inaugural CFP). I guess this one hurts a lot more because we all thought we were past this kind of beat down. Well for now (obviously) we're not.
That said our expectations were probably too high for a first time head coach in a hostile environment against the defending national champions, who BTW look like they might be even better than last year's team.
Other first-time HCs promoted from coordinator jobs inherited a system and long-time coaching staff. Chip was given the keys to a Ferrari and to his credit he tore off with it (of course after a rough start at Boise). Prior to that Bellotti inherited a program on the rise with a solid staff as well.
Slick Willie came in and decimated a quarter century of progress in one fell swoop. Mario inherited what was left and IMHO did a pretty good job (we all know his weaknesses, nonetheless two P12 championships and Rose Bowl wins).
DL comes in as first time HC with no carry over in coaching staff or team culture. Don't get me wrong I love our guys, but the team leaders have seen a lot during their careers, been told a lot of different things and seem a little bit shell-shocked. Then their first test is against Georgia, not exactly a recipe for morale building.
Perspective says it's one game, move on, sometimes easier said than done. More than one knowledgeable analyst has predicted a 1-2 start because of a brutal September schedule. Our most important game is the next one, we just have to get right and beat EWU before we worry about BYU and then go from there.
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No way we're top 20. This is a reality check right out of the gate.
Georgia is really good. Really, really good.
Our defense is terrible right now. Brady Hoke bad.
Offense looks interesting but obviously a work in progress. The good news is this is by far the best defense we'll face all year.
Thought our punter looked good though
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It's one game, still a really bad start for DL. That said remember Chip's first game at Boise St.?
September is a tough, hopefully we can shake this one off and move on.
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On 9/2/2022 at 2:54 PM, GeotechDuck said:
I agree that if you get the BIG invite, you have to take it. The money matters, especially when it starts getting distributed to the players. However, if you don't get that invite, you still have a path to the playoff every year. HUGE news for Oregon and probably strengthens their hand a little right now.
I agree with what you're saying in the sense that if we win the P12 we're in. That's a lot more achievable than going undefeated or even 12-1.
I should have worded my statement a little differently in that it really doesn't change our "strategy" rather than "the equation". Not to be a Debbie Downer here, but I just see the $ gap translating to a talent gap that gets wider each year and is reinforced by Power 2 championships. For us it just makes it progressively harder to stay relevant as a member of the P12.
Don't' get me wrong, I'm thrilled in the short-term but long-term I feel our situation remains relatively unchanged.
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Yes, great for the P12 champ but I don't see how it changes the equation in the long run. The at-large bids are going to be dominated by the Power 2. I'm figuring the B!G/SEC each put 3 at-large teams in, ergo a 4th place finish in those conferences is better than a second place finish in the P12. Plus our conference champ would have to be in the top 4 to get that first critical first-round bye.
This is a huge improvement no doubt, but for us the best chance to stay relevant long term remains B!G membership.
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Again thanks for the perspective, airspace.
Interesting to note that although USC will most certainly be opposed to Oregon's addition, they don't have a say just yet. That just adds to the sense of urgency, and I'm guessing that as you suggest these talks may be a lot further along than they appear.
Personally I think it happens and that makes me both sad and excited. There have been some amazing P12/B1G matchups in the Rose Bowl over the years, and granted we'll get more of those in the regular season, but the Rose Bowl will never be the same. That said B1G membership would bring financial stability and a seat at the big table. We're headed for a Power 2 that controls the CFP and anyone outside those conferences is really going to have a difficult time being relevant.
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IMHO (you did ask for feedback) the coaches and staff are paid professionals, so more latitude for criticism should be given provided it doesn't get personal. Criticize the action, not the person. I agree calling a coach a bonehead is disrespectful, but calling him out on a boneheaded play call is not. Semantics matters.
Criticism of players is a little more nuanced since they are still young men sometimes prone to bad judgment. In addition an ugly post may turn a potential recruit off to the fan base as whole. That said, saying a player made a selfish play is different than calling him out as a selfish player. Again semantics, but there needs to be a mechanism for legitimate criticism rather than completely sanitizing the forum into a big puff piece.