I Agree with Mr. FD, I'll worry about the silly season when it gets here.  We know KD is a rising star and is going to get offers, but I'm betting he wouldn't take this job even if offered.

On 11/14/2022 at 7:59 AM, Mic said:

Understand.  Agree.  But isn't it the duty of the Head Coach (in conjunction with the O.C/QB coach) to make sure there's at least ONE good backup ready to go with the full offense and not just bland, no-risk handoffs?  Clearly, UW seemed to know every play from TT was going to be a handoff to the back and they were ready and waiting.  The falloff from Bo to Ty was like falling off a cliff.  A high cliff.  The backup's play chart looks like it has 2 plays.

 

Still, I'm only asking the question.  I don't blame the loss on this.  The Pass Def is so dismal that O was going to be playing from behind most of the game.  And they were.  Then when they did get ahead, they couldn't stay there.

Yeah it's a fair question, DL is being held to a high standard.  What I don't understand is why Butters hasn't taken a single snap in garbage time despite how poorly TT has looked.  Butters looked to me like he outperformed TT in the spring game.

Lanning inherited this QB situation and brought in Nix, who has been an unqualified success this year.  It' a big ask to go from no serviceable QBs to a star and a good backup in one off-season.

Pretty much sums it up, but agree with others we had to go for it on that last fourth down with TT in.  It's been a high percentage conversion and our defense couldn't stop the fuskies anyway (not to mention how sketchy our punts have been).  If Whittington doesn''t slip, we probably convert, just a bad bounce.

 

Also agree we had to take that last field goal after Nix got hurt.  No way TT converts on that fourth down.

 

Speaking of TT, this loss is not on him he was put in a near impossible situation.  All hindsight now, but Lanning's decision to not call a time out at that critical juncture may have cost us the game (or at least overtime).

Just saw the headline (not an O-Live subscriber), either Oregon-Utah or USC-UCLA will be in the ESPN 7:30 night slot.  So much for exposure.

 

Bring on Amazon!

I've watched a couple of the NFL Prime streaming broadcasts, their quality is top-notch (of course if your internet bandwidth sucks then so does your feed).  It's the future, for the Pac-12 the question is when and how deep do we want to get in with this contract.  I don't give Dodd's numbers any credence whatsoever, but I do agree we have a lot of things working against us for linear broadcast rights.  ESPN is likely the only serious bidder, Fox is tapped out with the B1G and B12 contracts.  NBC is all in with the Domers, so that only leaves CBS as a substantial potential bidder against ESPN.

 

Personally I would rather see Pac-12 games streamed during midday or prime time slots than a whole bunch of night broadcasts on ESPN that nobody outside of the west coast bothers to watch anyway.  Choosing streaming money or exposure is a false choice IMHO.  Anybody with an internet connection could watch Pac-12 streamed games, we don't know how many actually will, but we already know the ESPN night games give us minimal exposure.

 

Going all in with Amazon would probably be a mistake at this time, but as a deep-pocketed second bidder it seems like a no-brainer to me especially since we can throw in Pac-12 Network production.

 

GK says he is confident we can beat the B12's deal, I'm inclined to believe him.

I generally disregard anything coming from Dennis Dodd. He never has anything positive to say about the Pac-12.

If we are 1-loss conference champ, the odds are we'll go to the CFP.  The Georgia loss just took away our margin for error.  Clearly that loss, as horrific as it was, doesn't skew the CFP committee that much.  We are the second highest 1-loss team and Tennessee has beaten Alabama and LSU.  Why is UCLA, a 1-loss team whose only loss is to Oregon not ranked in the top-ten? (well maybe after the new standings come out)?  Their OOC schedule was complete and total garbage.  SOS still matters.

 

I"m glad we play teams like Georgia, but we need home and home series, not one-offs on their turf.

 

I just can't wait for the CFP expansion so a 2-loss conference champion can still get in.

 

 

 

 

I'm going with Occam's razor here, he doesn't look ready to run the offense because he isn't.

 

Will he be ready next year is the question.  Nothing I'm seeing leads me to believe that is the case.  Hope I'm wrong though, I would love to see a real QB competition between TT, Butters and Moore next year.

I'm superstitious, I don't want to see all the talk about DL leaving turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

Sure we've heard this all before, but as far as I'm concerned we take him at his word and make him feel welcome.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seems contrary to GK's timeline, but DP is pretty legit so I'd give this some credence.

 

After all the B12 moves we've seen lately, I think it's important for the P12 to show some forward movement.  This be patient, we're all sticking together stance loses validity the longer it drags on.

 

Best case for the Pac-12, UCLA stays and we keep the LA market plus add San Diego.  That could give us a decent shot at good TV deal.

Yeah seemed suspicious despite the SI tag.  Sounds like wishful thinking from a fan-boy site.

One game at a time, take care of our business and good things will happen.  

Pains me to root for the Domers, but Clemson is toast.

On 11/3/2022 at 9:19 AM, David Marsh said:

Oregon has the money to pay a coach who is worth it but that price tag does come with a level of loyalty to the program as well. I don't think Mullens and Knight want to get into a bidding war to hold onto a coach. 

Yes, I think this is the crux of the biscuit.  After being leveraged by Taggart and snubbed by MC, loyalty will certainly be rewarded.  The more successful DL becomes, the more offers he's going to get, that's just the nature of the business.  That said no one's making a serious run at Saban or Smart or Whittingham for that matter, so if DL continues to say "pass, not interested" he could indeed be our guy.

On 11/2/2022 at 9:35 PM, Mic said:

For those who like conspiracies, here's one:

 

A 1-loss Oregon winning the Pac-12 Championship and finishing 12-1 gets left out (they'll use that 1st game against us).

A 1-loss USC winning the Pac-12 Championship and finishing 12-1 gets put in IF there are 2 other 1-loss teams.  

In fact, I'd be willing to bet a dollar-to-a-donut a 12-1 USC would trump TCU, maybe even Clemson simply because the CFB has been wanting to get USC back in the picture for a long time now.  They'd really love to have USC and/or ND in it together, but ND didn't cooperate with the program this year.

 

How's that for conspiracies?

Not all that far-fetched IMHO.  The networks love blue bloods and to think they don't have a huge influence is just naive.

I think we all crave a return to the continuity we had during the Brooks/Bellotti years, but I'm not sure that's realistic given the ridiculous amount of money being thrown around.

 

Yeah it sucks to have the national perception of Oregon being a "stepping stone" program and what we're really looking for is the best fit for Oregon, a combination of recruting, on-the-field performance and loyalty to the program.  Granted that's a bit of a tall order, but I feel if we find that person then money won't be an issue because Mullens and Phil will probably come up with it.

 

Is Lanning that guy?  So far he seems to check all the boxes, but we all remember MC's "kicking and screaming" comments.

 

A potential problem I see is that Mullens generally takes a graded, progressive approach to rewarding coaches financially.  That could potentially make us vulnerable if a desperate school from the B1G or SEC comes in and waves $10 million/10 years at him.  Are we willing to match?  Good example with Mel Tucker, they may wind up buying him out soon.

On 11/2/2022 at 1:03 PM, kirklandduck said:

I'm not adverse to the smaller size of their stadium, that can easily be made up by the enthusiasm of the fan base.  According to the article, that enthusiasm seems to be coming in spades.  I'd rather have a smaller venue jam-packed with a raucous crowd than the tumble-weed infested lands that inhabit the Rose Bowl when UCLA plays their home games...

Yeah that.  Let them worry about ticket revenues, it's the TV money that counts and I agree that the LA schools rarely sell out, especially UCLA.  It's embarassing when they have to block out sections with team graphics and the TV cameras are afraid to pan out.

On 11/2/2022 at 10:01 AM, Mic said:

It's going to come down to the "four best no-loss & 1-loss teams" ... unless the powers to be want to let TCU into the hallowed club of Playoff Teams.  I'm not sure they're ready to do that.  How they determine (select) the best 1-loss teams is anyones wild guess.  Branding, I suspect.

Yep the old "eye test" which is code for whomever the powers that be want.  

 

I hope I'm wrong, but the Pac-12 is screwed unless TCU loses.  Let's assume Clemson wins out, they aren't playing a ranked team the rest of the year.  Either tOSU or Michigan goes undefeated, there's no real serious challenger outside of those two (yeah maybe Illinois, but not likely IMHO).   If we have three undefeated conference champs (B12, ACC and B1G) they have to go and you know damn well the SEC champ is going unless maybe they have two losses (which I also think is unlikely).

 

On our end we have to have a 12-1 champ that wins in impressive fashion.  Sure there's a chance, but it's unlikely we control our own destiny.  

Agree LSU way too high. No way they should be ranked over UCLA.

 

Tennessee/Georgia huge this week, but I doubt we move up either way especially if Georgia loses there's no way we leap frog them after our ugly loss.

Never ever ever ever ever pulling for the Fuskies.

 

Go Little Bro!

Three tough games to finish the regular season, two at home, all winnable and all losable.  Then maybe the conference championship game against USC or UCLA.  Plenty of season still left, it's crunch time.

 

We have no margin for error to reach the playoff and even if we win out we would still probably need a little help.  It's looking like there may be several 1-loss teams when the dust settles.

 

Bill Walton loves the Pac-12 and the west coast.  Yes his diatribes are sometimes rambling and esoteric, but he is a real gem both athletically and culturally.

 

I'm not sure his opinion changes anything, but you've got to give him credit for trying.