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The issue with Houston is that they have a very small fan base.

Great point HipHopfroggy. Just want to point out TECH has been historically bad during 2015-2019. But with Joey McGuire I believe things are looking up.

I would have guessed 6 & 7th would be acceptable. That plus it opens up recruiting in the state of Texas. Also it expands the PAC12 TV network.

Not that stadium size matters all that much but it is a strong indicator of fan support. Football stadium size. TECH: 60,454 OSU: 55,509 Kansas: 50,250 Baylor: 45,140 TCU: 45,000 Houston: 40,000 Basketball arenas Kansas: 16,300 TECH: 15,030 OSU: 13,611 Baylor: 10,347 TCU: 8,500 Houston: 7,100 Yes I will concede that geography matters, but it doesn't necessary correlate to fan support. TCU, SMU, RICE, for just a few schools who cant even fill their stadiums or arenas. This is why I hope the PAC12 would consider TECH, OSU & Kansas. These three schools have great fan support and are growing. Houston is a gamble, but I'm sure with P5 access they will rise to the occasion. If not Houston, BYU or Baylor would be great pick ups. Also it does bring back a few old rivalries, not big ones but rivalries nonetheless. OSU vs Colorado (Old BIG8) KU vs Colorado (Old BIG8) TECH vs Arizona (Border Conference) TECH vs Arizona St (Border Conference)

PAC12 should kill the BIG12 now by adding Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Kansas & Houston. If Kliavkoff could convince the PAC12 presidents to invite these programs is would kill the BIG12 and solidify the P4. By adding these schools the conference could expand the PAC12 footprint all the way to Kansas City & Houston. Why these 4 programs. Simply put they are by far the 3 most popular fans bases in the BIG12. Yes they are not TEXAS or Oklahoma. But at the same time they are not Boise St, Fresno St, Hawaii, Wyoming, either. Kansas basketball is must watch TV, with a national following. Texas Tech is by far the 3rd most popular university in Texas, and the 2nd largest alumni base in DFW. University of Houston is the fastest growing university in Texas but also the fastest growing city in Texas with over 2.5 million people. By adding Kansas, Tech & Houston along with Arizona & UCLA pac12 basketball would be must watch TV. Football would improve as well. Obviously Kansas would be the outlier. Below are just a few random facts. All are Tier 1 universities Kansas is Tier 1 & AAU State Population Texas: over 30 Million Oklahoma: 4 Million Kanas (Kansas City): 3 Million/Missouri: 6 Million. As you know Lawrence is within 20 Miles of Kansas City. And the vast majority of College sports fans in Kansas City are University of Kansas fans not Missouri fans. Student Size Oklahoma St: 26,000 Texas Tech: 41,000. Kansas: 29,000 Houston: 45,000 Endowments: Kansas: 1.8Billion Texas Tech: 1.6Billion OSU: 1.3 Billion Houston: 1.0billion Potential year rivalry games vs SEC. Big TV money for the Pac12. OSU vs Oklahoma Kansas vs Missouri Tech vs Texas