Omigosh! In an article today where John Canzano complains about the meager earnings from the ACC, coupled with the terrible travel for Cal/Stanford athletes...John refers again to the quote he uses often to soothe the feelings of his Orange followers. It is meant to offer hope...

JS: I keep coming back to what former Stanford coach David Shaw told me when USC and UCLA bolted to the Big Ten. Shaw said he believed geography would ultimately win. I think Cal and Stanford both end up in a conference (or division) that is anchored in the Pacific Time Zone.

“My heart of hearts tells me that in some point of time this will self-correct,” Shaw told me.

Mr. FD: He is not a good guy to quote John,

because if Shaw knew WTH he was talking about...

....he would still be the coach at Stanford.

Cal and Stanford are irrelevant as far as football goes, who is the head coach at Stanford now? The coach at Cal is some guy named Wilcox.

Neither Cal or Stanford care enough about football to make the financial commitment necessary to compete seriously at national level. Their addition wouldn't raise the bar much in any case.

The "Pac" whatever will never be considered a power conference. They will be lucky to get lower bowl bids. Mr JC is completely delusional. Got to appreciate his attempts to garner attention and beat that Pac(St)eight drum though. He is relentless, in a most enjoyable and humorous way.

21 minutes ago, DanLduck said:

They will be lucky to get lower bowl bids

The Fight for the Pop Tart Bowl!

I doubt either "comes back." But, for the Beavis folks who believe that they will, they assume that when they come back they will still have the same status as when both were members of the 2023-24 Pac12. That is an error in logic, in my opinion. If they come back they will have accepted the notion that they no longer care about being a Power 4 level program. They will not bring prestige to the new Pac because they will no longer be evaluated to be at that former level.

It will be akin to saying, "we are now at the Fresno State and San Diego State level." Rather than, Fresno and SDSU claiming they have increased prestige from their association with Cal/Stanford.