2 hours ago, ArkieDuck said:

The good experenced quaterback prevailed over the good inexperenced quarterback.

Yes, I'm coming around to Charles' view regarding the importance of experienced transfer QBs in the portal era.

18 minutes ago, HDuck said:

Sacks?

• “Very disappointed. Just overall with how we played. Didn’t play very well in the situations, third downs were not very good, not very good in the red zone at the end. I thought Indiana played really well, did a great job”

• On the team’s sacks it allowed: “They obviously brought different pressures and twists, but that was something they had done all season. We didn’t handle it well at all...This is a major lesson for this team, it can come down to one play or two plays or three plays that decide a game like this. This is a tough lesson to learn. We have to be more efficient across the board.”

That was Coach Day a few minutes ago. Not a quote from Dan Lanning in mid-October.

A team wearing Crimson and Cream has a hell of a D-coordinator.

All I know is Dante Moore missed two TDs Stein called for him against Indiana.

Indiana forced both Ohio State and OBD to play mistake free ball. Both teams will defeat the Hoosiers if they do. Both teams field more talent.

And yes, I am saying this after watching both games. Ohio State finally faced a team their caliber. Much like A&M.

The bad news is , unlike OBD last year, they face the sting of this loss before its "win or go home". That will make them far more dangerous. The Buckeyes can't control the ball with a strong running game.

That's finally on film. But that's four games Indiana has displayed the same characteristic. Cignetti is using the DeBoer/Penix back shoulder strategy. Indiana can't out run CBs. Which means the Smart DCs are going to play zone and shut that stuff down.

Ironically, that is also what I would do to Ohio State. Jeremiah Smith pushes off as soon as anyone gets close to him. Tate has to be more crafty since he isn't a physical beast like Smith is. But the way to beat both of those teams is to lay off of press coverage.

Let's see who follows that strategy, because both teams are excellent against press coverage.

This playoff run comes down to Dante Moore. I'm thinking run the offense like the Jim Kelly Bills...all two minute stuff. Moore doesn't think when he's given routes like that. We saw that front and center these past two games, and actually much like the first three games of the season.

My two cents of course, which won't be followed since Lanning insists on being physical. College football is closer than ever to the NFL. The QB decides titles. The running game is an accessory. You need to be able to run the ball to wrap the game up. You need to pass the ball to take command of the game.

9 minutes ago, MikeJ said:

  2 hours ago, ArkieDuck said:

The good experenced quaterback prevailed over the good inexperenced quarterback.

Yes, I'm coming around to Charles' view regarding the importance of experienced transfer QBs in the portal era.

Could the benefit and importance of a good experienced QB vs a good inexperienced QB be extended to offensive and defensive coordinators? I think it can and it should be considered when hiring an OC and DC for a top 5 program. Next year, If OBD makes the playoffs, I guess we will find out.

8 hours ago, JB89 said:

Alabama is the 5th best team in the SEC. They had their chance to get in the playoffs by beating Georgia and they failed.

Alabama just had to keep the SEC Championship Game close and they would have been in the playoff, IMO. They even failed to do that and should be out.

8 hours ago, JB89 said:

I think this will speed up the process of having a 16 or 24 team playoff. Either the ACC, Notre Dame or Alabama gets left out of the playoffs this year. That will create the necessary storm to get a larger field. It should also help with the other conferences agreeing to the model of automatic qualifiers that the Big 10 would like.

I believe that 12 is a good number and wish they would start the playoffs earlier with the championship game on January 1. Eliminate the automatic qualifiers and have the 12 most deserving teams in the tournament. If Tulane, James Madison, et al want to play in the playoffs you had better schedule some top teams OOC to prove that you belong.

No matter how many teams you have in the tournament there will be people complaining. Look at the NCAA basketball tournament.

If you play in a major conference and have less than 2 losses you should be in; with 2 losses you are on the bubble and your fate will be decided by the committee; three or more loses and you should be eliminated.

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8 hours ago, Mike West said:

All I know is Dante Moore missed two TDs Stein called for him against Indiana.

Indiana has a really good d-line that can wreck havoc. The defense also does an excellent job disguising coverages and blitzes.

The Ohio State QB seemed to have a little more success when they rolled him out of the pocket. I would like to see Stein do more of that with Dante Moore, especially on obvious passing situations, as he is also really good at throwing on the run.

11 hours ago, Fathertime said:

Did Ohio State lose on purpose for a better playoff position? No one wants to have a long bye.

If that was proven, tOSU would already have a GoFundMe account set up for the purchase of a splintered rail, tar, and feathers for Day's 'Going Away Party!

NuttyBucks fans hate losing to any 'second class' wannabe loser team in the B1G!

3 hours ago, OregonDucks said:

Indiana has a really good d-line that can wreck havoc. The defense also does an excellent job disguising coverages and blitzes.

The Ohio State QB seemed to have a little more success when they rolled him out of the pocket. I would like to see Stein do more of that with Dante Moore, especially on obvious passing situations, as he is also really good at throwing on the run.

I give Kudos to

3 hours ago, OregonDucks said:

Indiana has a really good d-line that can wreck havoc. The defense also does an excellent job disguising coverages and blitzes.

The Ohio State QB seemed to have a little more success when they rolled him out of the pocket. I would like to see Stein do more of that with Dante Moore, especially on obvious passing situations, as he is also really good at throwing on the run.

I give much respect (grudgingly) to Indiana's DC. They did a far better job than I expected against both elite teams. That doesn't take away from Moore had enough time to complete two TD passes however. The WRs were open, Moore didn't look at either one.

You can't stop wide open throws. You can force QBs out of their rhythm, and thus "help" them miss wide open WRs. So maybe that's what happened.

In any event, we have see Indiana's peak. We haven't seen Ohio State's or OBD. If Indiana duplicates their performance in the playoffs, which they will have to in order to be in the game, we will see if teams like Ohio State and OBD step into their capabilities.

I think we all realize Moore and company have left nearly 75 points on the field. Think about that, two TDs against almost every conference opponent (yes, I can actually chart every single one of them).

And I don't believe it's a feature of the offense. I'm talking about bina fide missed throws, and missed reads. Several of them explosive TD passes.

I don't know if we still beat Indiana (because one of those TDs definitely would have changed their approach to the game), and Indiana has demonstrated consistently they can respond to losing a lead or getting tied.

What I do know is it is time OBD offense play a complete game. I recognize that teams don't just sit down and let us "pig out", but I've seen enough of this offense to believe those teams have nothing do with OBD unforced errors.