David Marsh

That was NOT targeting... He led with his hands and there was contact but that was not targeting.

Right now this feels like watching old school Stanford football where they burn all the clock. Only it's Oregon running the ball.

... not Sewell now.

Hopefully not too serious... It has been the narrative this year sadly.

We got that and now we need to punch it in.

No Moorhead on the field might be a reason to not play TT because there is no QB coach on the sidline. But I think there is still way more upside. I think Oregon is going to have to lose for a change to be made.

I think part of the fan frustration right now is that we can see Brown isn't cutting it. He has reached his ceiling and is isn't good enough. We would rather see Thompson with some freshman struggles rather than watch Brown, a sixth year senior, fail to play at the level nmthis team needs.

I would make the call personally. I'm not sure this coaching staff has the guts to make that call though. It's a big risk but Oregon needs something to give them some life.

Normally it is a handoff to a running back at least... Until this year it has been a handoff and let the running back take it into the pile. Now it is the QB?

I'm starting to feel like Brown is a selfish player with some of these QB runs. Oregon has killed it when they have attacked the edges but he keeps the ball on the read at 4th and 1 to go up the middle? Especially when lacking the starting center. So many times the past couple of games Brown has kept it when he shouldn't have. He is either making the wrong reads or thinks he can do better than the running back.

What was that??? Brown runs on 4th down? That is just straight up the WRONG decision.

I'm close to turning it off myself.

Brown has looked aweful so far. The interception was a bad and the rest of those passes have been pretty aweful and off target. A bit if a miracle there haven't been more interceptions with those passes.

Stanford doesn't have a good run game this year which means they will need to throw it. If Oregon can get them in third and longish and get a stop there won't be a 4th down conversion attempt. The big key for the defense is stop the run and get off the field. Oregon's offense is good enough to get it done but they need to be on the field. Can't spend a whole quarter like last week with the offense sitting on the sidelines.

I know I'm showing how young I am... but I do love me some highlighter burn-your-eyes-out yellow. It kinda happens once a year... but I'd love to see a Yellow Out become a real thing at Oregon. Do this at night with the stadium lights on and ALL THAT BRIGHT YELLOW! It could be pretty cool. Right now we kinda do it against a lesser opponent early in the year and it is typically an afternoon game. It just feels lacking when it could be something spectacular.

I think it is more likely that if those two upsets happen that Penn state jumps us to no. 1. Too much of the country can't imagine the idea of a pac-12 team being no. 1 in football. We also need Ohio state to win and start looking better to help our case.

Oregon 45-20, 2, 2, 203 Passing

Learning how to just beat lesser opponents is tough to learn. It requires four quarters of solid play and those 2nd and 3rd quarters and put the opponent way. These young teams haven't had the experience to not get bogged down in the heat the game but instead rise above it and just take care of business. It is difficult keeping that institutional knowledge and talent in the program for a long period of time because graduation and players leaving in a series of waves (especially because they are successful) leaves the team very young without that knowledge. Oregon lost an insane amount of talent after 2014. In 2015 there was still some good talent left on the roster but at the end of 2015 it was ALL GONE. In rolls 2016 which was a bad year for defense was Hoke's defensive scheme was just bad but beyond that it was a team built on underclassmen. 2019 and 2020 was really two years of graduations rolled into one because of the opt outs. 2019 was a pretty disciplined team (especially compared to today) and really understood their roles on the team. That defense was incredible and the 2019 class were true freshman that year. Now they are the leaders of this team but they should have had another year being underclassmen. That 2019 class though are some of the best and most productive players on the field so they have really stepped up but the team was gutted of veterans. Will everything be better and fixed in 2022? Probably not... but it should be much improved. We should see some improvement in the coming weeks as well as more players gain that starting experience and learn from their mistakes.

This is something that would be a bigger problem if Stanford had a running game that chewed up the clock which they really don't have this year to date. It also requires a solid defense that can get off the field quickly and then get that run heavy chew the clock offense back on the field.

I think job assignments and a deeper understanding of the defense is the biggest problem with this young Oregon team. Getting Hill on the field more would be a good thing. I do believe DeRuyter is looking at this and is not satisfied with the results and is working to improve it. I just wish it didn't take so long.

Something needs to be done to tighten the coverage up a bit. I sorta get the feeling that there is a general lack of expirence right now that is creating more missed assignments in the zone defense which then creates holes. Zone is a lot harder to get players to learn because the assignments are so much more fluid. It might be time for some good old fashioned man defense and get some heat on some of these recievers.

I think Arizona is very bad right now... But I think they are trending in the right direction. The coaching staff there is doing well... I think it is just a bigger disaster than anyone realized.

Hi Everyone... as the forum was not relaunched until recently I have been holding this back. I find power rankings fun because it is looking at teams and trying to determine a pecking order. These are more gut feels than based around raw stats and is looking to try and rank the PAC based on how good these teams are, rather than purely based off record. Their records do count and do matter but teams aren't static and should evolve as the year goes on. Without further ado... Pac-12 Week 4 Power Rankings 1. Oregon (4-0) (1-0) - Oregon still has the best win and even though they played by far their worst game of the year against Arizona they did emerge with a win by three scores. So for now they remain at No. 1. 2. UCLA (3-1) (1-0) - UCLA is the only other ranked team in the Pac-12 at the moment in the AP Poll. Though rankings aside, this UCLA team got burned by Fresno State in Week 3 but has bounced back with a dominant win over Stanford. UCLA is full of veteran players and many are playing their best football. Even with all that this team has some real vulnerabilities. 3. Oregon State (3-1) (1-0) - Yes, I am putting Oregon State in at No. 3. This Beaver team is stacked with veteran players, in large part helped by the covid-shirt. This team is hungry for their first bowl game since 2013 and they are playing like a team driven. Don't sleep on the Beavers, they are a seriously dangerous team and even more so because everyone has written them off for years. However, this is a team that is probably reaching its ceiling. 4. Stanford (2-2) (1-1) - Stanford is a resilient team and David Shaw is coaching this team up as best he can. This team is going to be dangerous but what is abundantly clear is that this team is still a far cry from the Stanford teams that led the conference a decade ago and battled Oregon for the conference crown. Right now it looks like the conference pecking order between Stanford and OSU will come down to when these two teams meet and right now I'm not sure who would win. 5. Arizona State (3-1) (1-0) - Arizona State is a bit difficult to judge because yes they are at 3 and 1 right now in their overall record. However, they have only played one generally considered good team in BYU and ASU embarrassed themselves in that defeat. Right now they are at No.5 but they are a distant No. 5 because they are still largely unproven and everyone beneath them feels much worse. 6. Washington (2-2) (1-0) - Now there is a good argument that Washington is possibly a better team than ASU. However, Washington still lost to an FCS team and were blown out in Michigan. Even with all that said they seem to have a decent defense and an offense that might finally be figuring themselves out. So far in Pac-12 play they beat a wholly underwhelming Cal team. 7. Utah (2-2) (1-0) - Utah isn't a good football team yet. However, by the end of the year they may just be a good football team. Right now this position is more built on Kyle Wittingham's reputation than current results from Utah as Utah's two wins are from two bad opponents. 8. Cal (1-3) (0-1) - Cal has regressed big time. There was a thought that DeRuyter wasn't a big influence on Cal's defense, especially with Justin Wilcox as head coach. Well, after four games it has become quite clear that Cal really misses DeRuyter as a defensive coordinator. 9. USC (2-2) (1-2) - USC is on auto-pilot this year. They fired Helton in game two, which was frankly rather poor decision. If they choose to fire him two games into the year it raises the question as to why they didn't fire him at the end of last year? Was something supposed to have magically changed over the summer and a different Helton and USC team was supposed to emerge? Well that didn't happen. USC might win a few more games, but making a bowl game is going to be a a climb and right now it is hard to imagine they are going to beat too many teams in the Pac-12. 10. Colorado (1-3) (0-1) - Colorado looked good out the gate this year and looked like they could knock out at Texas A&M team team that was at the time ranked in the top ten in the country. Though what became abundantly clear in that game was the fact that Colorado doesn't have any offense. Their defense looks decent to good but their defense alone isn't going to win too many games for them. 11. Arizona (0-4) (0-1) - It seems weird that I am putting the only win-less Pac-12 team in at No. 11 instead of dead last. They probably belong in last but this team feels like they are well coached but are completely lacking in the players they need to truly compete. However, they may have finally settled on a quarterback and if they can clean up the turnover margin slightly, 5 picks is way too many, this team has potential. Especially, considering a few of those interceptions against Oregon throws that didn't even have to happen. This team is going to steal a game or two this year and most importantly one of those games they might have a chance of winning is against No. 12. 12. Washington State (1-3) (0-2) - Washington State doesn't look like they even know what they are doing at this time. They had a chance to put the heat on USC and USC put in a true freshman quarterback in their first start who just torched this defense. Washington State held a lead against Utah in a low scoring game and just imploded in the fourth quarter and Utah went on to win the game. Arizona looks like they are on the upswing where they are figuring out what it takes to win... but WSU hasn't improved and really isn't improving. If Arizona were to play WSU today, I think Arizona wins which is why I have Washington State ranked below Arizona. Thanks for reading... this sort of thing is fun for me. Please feel free to argue with my thoughts as that is also fun! I will post another one after Week 5.

Beavers... Washington probably wont be ranked this year. Losing to an FCS team pretty much eliminates that possibility. However, the Beavers could make it into the top 25. This could give Oregon another opportunity for a ranked win. There won't be many of those opportunities in the Pac-12 this year. UCLA will probably still be ranked in a couple weeks, Stanford might end the season ranked... but probably not.

I don't think Oregon has a quarterback that can do what Moorhead wants to do right now. There really isn't much of a vertical passing game. If Brown is the QB and proves unable to make those downfield shots, I can see defenses opting to challenge Brown to take those shots (knowing he won't burn them) while bringing more of the defense forward to stop the run game and short passing game. Brown has run Moorhead's offense well enough to date but this offense has been a short to midrange offense looking at players getting lots of yards after the catch. There is a major learning curve happening with the players as well. Lets not forget how young this team is and how few games they have played.