Mike West

I'm not sure we beat Michigan last year. Their offense was more potent than this year's, and this year's team was the first to "crack the code" on our defense. Not to mention, they way we lined up against Washington last year was an open invitation for last year's Michigan to simply pile drive our defense (the Fuskies used a similar defensive front against the Wolverines in the Natty last year and got obliterated - until that game I thought Washington would win hands down). I personally believe it's time to overhaul the entire philosophy on defense. I don't get paid for these things, and I'm just a hack, but I totally believe the best coaches in the business completely know how to take down Lanning 's scheme on defense. It's just apparent to me we can out physical lower grades teams, but when it boils down to elite competition, they know exactly who to attack, and what Formations to use to neutralize a pretty damn set of talented players.

I love that Buckeye fans recognize the threat that Oregon is. It first started with the recruiting battles. Then it immediately spilled over to the field. They don’t respect us, but they respect the threat that we are to them. Whether they like it or not.

Somebody in the B1G brass has suggested using CCG week as a seeding tool. Three games. Number one versus number two. Number 4 versus Number 5 and Number 3 versus Number 6. Winners get automatic bids. Number 2 goes to the playoffs as well. Would make sense if the playoffs expand to 14 or 16. I believe the ratings would be outstanding. Vegas and the Rose Bowl could be used as sites along with Indianapolis. Talk about huge interest! Better yet, if the Big 12 and the ACC took the top 4 and had a two-week tourney starting the week after the season ended (1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3 then the Title game the next week), and the B1G and SEC used the above over two weeks after the season ended, the ratings would certainly spike. They would have to stagger the games -say on Thursday Friday and Saturday the first week. That would be similar to March Madness, but conference specific until the playoffs start. I believe that would etch College Football as a Brand to follow in November and December because the second tier of the P4 would have a new revenue source. and people will still believe in College Football (not being an NFL Esque money grabbing enterprise ironically).

Didn't he say they used that as the theme for the Rose Bowl? I thought he said that was the theme for that playoff game. He didn't reveal that until the week of the Natty from what I remember. For what its worth, I don't think any team with 11 were going to beat them the way they prepared, and strategically unveiled their strategy for us(and everybody else). We had not seen anything like what they brought to the table that game. They brought their coaching staff to the table as well. Lots of coaches thought Day's staff was more experienced, and thus would beat Oregon in Eugene. That happened the second game because they didn't take OBD for granted, and they were totally motivated to humiliate us like we humiliated them. I think Lanning learns from this. I think Lanning is going to start going to Specialists instead of General Practitioners from this point forward.

I think it will be interesting to see how he does without his son at QB. He has adapted the mercenary route to win. I'm not sure how that works out long term. One thing I can say is he did way better than I expected. I didn't believe he completely cared about his players enough to motivate them to rise above their "pay grade". That they were in contention for a conference title this year impressed me. Now we will see if he is a coach or talent acquirer. If he matches that record this year (2024's), I'll certainly be impressed.

I think that works for Gabriel too. Murray at Arizona comes to mind. Size matters if you don't know how to use your talent. Joe Montana is tiny compared to current NFL QBs. Gabriel demonstrated how much of a play maker this year. The right (smart) NFL team will pick him up. Gabriel can play if he has talent around him. I have always admired Pittsburgh's strategy of picking up NFL talent. They always go to the playoffs. I used to think Belichick did the same until Brady went to Tampa Bay. Denver seems to have adapted the same philosophy-stack your team with guys that not only fit your scheme, but pick them up in every round of the draft. The players will replace the money seekers because they are suited for the style of play. Let the greedy get the "bag". Make sure you have a complete team, and the stars are replaced by guys that will be excellent in your scheme because their talent level and capabilities match what works on your team. Money IS important. Titles matter more to me. Brady, Montana, Sanders... those guys gave up some of their salary to pick up enough talent to win Championships. Winning matters more. Especially when you are good enough already. Gabriel has a chance to make an impact if the right team with the right stuff picks him up.

I don't think his comment is any different than "they play for clicks, we play for wins". It was used in the same context. A tool to motivate his team. They were pretty ticked that they lost to us. Surprised at that. They felt they were the better team. Not that day. They were more talented. They learned from their mistakes. They left nothing to chance. They set their egos aside and really went to the doctor (nothing against DL here-I think the world of Lanning, but he's still learning). They were willing to overhaul their entire concept, their defense and offense, and they waited on purpose to unveil all they were going to display (until the playoffs). Lanning will get there. He is a more complete HC than CK ever will be. He will have to adapt his efforts to suit the strengths of his players. I think he goes there. He wants to win a title...badly. He fully grasped how to acquire talent. Now he just needs to completely put them in position to win. That will require adapting his schemes to fully exploit the strengths his players possess. That's what Ryan Day did this year. Both coaches approached the season as a long haul. They both knew it would require looking at the season as sections of its entirety. I actually believe both of Ohio State's losses tremendously helped them win the Natty. They were forced to accept it takes more than putting a philosophy on paper. It was going to require drilling down to accentuate the exact strengths each player had. They had a wealth and abundance of talent. That wasn't enough. They tweaked their schemes to suit their talent better than everyone else. Including motivating them by expressing what the players already believed (that we needed twelve to beat them because nobody with eleven could beat them).

I remember when Nick Saban called it a fad. Then asked everyone if that's what they really wanted. Then Saban basically took Chip Kelly's Offense (not Bill Walsh's) and earned three more Natty's. I believe Cio Kelly had far more an influence on the teams that earn titles than Bill Walsh has. The fad was the no huddle. The option aspect of it still forces teams to pick their poison. You have to commit to what you want to defend instead of dictate the game. I'd say football is thinking about Chip's system more than Walsh's.

I'm still wondering what the heck Kansas State's HC was thinking. The guy that was supposed to light the Big 12 on fire will never sniff a College Football playoff game (yeah I said it, the dude is a fraction of what Will Howard is). That may have cost OBD a shot at the title. I don't regret not going full tilt into the football industry, but I sure do wonder how some of these coaches think ( getting rid of Howard to promote potential is just obvious - you don't run off the guy that earned you a conference title).

I'm not sold on the recruits yet. DJ's brother was the ONLY breakout in his class, and nobody broke out in last year's class. Contrast that with Downs at Bama, then Ohio State. Williams and Smith at Bama and Ohio State respectively. Those guys get impact freshmen, and freshman backups contributing in the two deep. It's great that NIL is leveling the playing field, but I'm starting to question the whole recruiting industry. Too many four stars are sitting the bench all over the country. I realize it takes at least a year now, but we should be hearing whispers of future stars. And I've seen a significant difference between the starters and the reserves during mop up duty. Disturbing differences. Especially on defense ( which until now I hadn't thought about - could explain all the confusion even the starters show at times). I like the defense Andy Avalos inherited and suited to his style. I just think a 4-3 or 3-4 is better suited to exploit an individual player's skill set. I could go on, but alas, I'll never be a DC or an analyst to contribute my thoughts. I just see way too many coaches spending way too much time on their thing instead of of looking at the lau of the land and putting their players in position to execute against any and everybody. Or perhaps I'm just delusional and an old hack that wishes he was actively part of the game lol.

Well I certainly hope we don't become the distasteful blue blood when we get there. It already shows some in the Athletic Department. Some believe they're too big for 'the others'. Reminds me a bit of The Outsiders. Not to mention, some kids can never relate to being humble as we Grey Beards know all too well. It's a blessing to be a contender. Not too long ago we were just like Oregon State and WSU. And we'd have been looking in the outside in if Rich Brooks hadn't worked his butt off and learned what he needed to learn.

Interesting take. If it's true that position coaches matter most to recruits, does it really matter? Chip is a football genius that doesn't relate to inflated egos that much (I'm with him on the egos, I can't stand hyped up (and relatively) grade schoolers). Chip changes the entire game of football. Chip is damn near the Vince Lombardi of College Football. The media age (social media that is) inflates egos and fosters many a delusion. So as CEO I wouldn't mind my coordinators spending more time finding ways to carve their elite opposition rather than hunt down too many maybes. Just my take. Recruiting should be for those that really want to deal with the kids. You can build relationships with them when they are on your team.

If the B1G is talking about it, it may well happen. I like the strategy: create compelling end of season games for ratings AND another revenue source for the conference. Expand to 14 teams, provide the 3 AQs for the SEC and B1G ( it's going to happen anyways - especially after the House Case settles), and hype it all season ( that will make the regular season more relevant than ever). Will it happen? We'll see. Money has a funny way of creating foggy hubris in decision makers. Let's see if they still care about the essence of college football.

My take on the posts here: OSU basically took a key coaching move by DL and used it as AMPLE MOTIVATION TO DEEP SIX OBD. Nothing like a rivalry starting off as hot as tOSU/Michigan. They already hate us. That's good. Another Blue Blood annoyed that we are coming for them. As I said, if I know DL at all, he is going to scheme better than he ever has. And personell doesn't matter as much as using the talent you have in hand.

LOL, I stared a whole new thread before seeing this... But my take is vital. We need every exam known to mankind to fix our issues with elite teams.

I’m curious, what’s the point in spamming a free website? Seems like an awful waste of time.

I’ve got to look at it. Michigan does an excellent job of slowing teams down. They have an elite staff. That’s one of the reasons they keep getting elite players. I believe our staff is pretty good. They haven’t attacked that major weakness yet. I’ve even seen CB Mohamed isolated at times in ways that don’t make him look good. That has to change.

I’m going to have to take a good look at them before I comment. Again, I believe it’s going to hinge on giving them solid rules for coverage. Savage couldn’t cover elite speed, but he sure was around the ball a lot. ‘’Ohio State (Chip) did a good job isolating the weakest man on man cover guys and kept the deep Safeties in conflict coverage. That is where the rubber meets the road-finding coverage rules that bolster those weaknesses and most importantly, forcing elite WRs to take short catches . Open field tackling is vital and that may be where OBD can take advantage of their skills best. This requires a lot of trial and error. Which I don’t think DCs and position coaches scheme for. It’s more the entire defense. One on One coverage is very difficult for even the best CBs and Safeties. That’s why I believe it takes looking at the best offensive plays ever designed and crafting coverage packages for them. I don’t believe coaches think that way.

I believe the scheme isn't suited to handle elite offenses. I've seen four games against that set, and then two relatively above average ( talent and scheme) offenses in Happy Valley and Ann Arbor that exposed some solid red flags. I actually believe the secondary was talented enough this year to handle Ohio State. They don't match up speed versus speed, but with the proper set of rules in zone, that group was keen enough to make plays and take away options. It is my belief that pass coverage should take options away from the QB. I don't see that as a priority in their scheme. I see a reactive formula that requires very elite talent. As in NFL esque talent. Nobody in college football is going to have a full set of players that rival NFL talent in any unit. That especially goes for a secondary. It has become quit clear the SEC learned that fact the hard way this year. Before, ten teams could stockpile talent and replace elite talent with near elite talent. Now Georgia and Bama face the same issue OBD have- holes in part of their units. In my opinion, that requires blending scheme that suits the talent level. I'm not sure many coaches are recognizing the facts on the ground yet. They still believe they can coach up the holes they have, instead of utilizing each players' strengths in order to produce an effective amount of production from the unit as a whole. Excellent coaches recognize this and exploit the weaknesses they identify. That's why Ohio State was chomping at the bit to play OBD again. The saw the flaws live, tracked our progress, and went to work on what Michigan initially exposed and Penn State exploited further. It's time to craft a scheme that is flexible enough to suit the many strengths the players demonstrate on defense. That's going to require testing the weaknesses in many forms and developing strengths that minimize those flaws. That's what I see at least. Lanning wants to use a style of defense. I see using talent that exploits several types of defenses ( that emphasize the players' strengths).

Away games are tougher. Hard to stomp a pesky home dog out. Nice victory. I’m impressed. Didn’t expect the win…

Rookie QBs usually struggle in their first playoff game. Franklin is probably an ADHD kid. That might explain the inconsistency and lack of focus.

Well, let’s hope it sticks. Kids getting ‘stupid’ with demands can take that to the NFL. This guy is good, but damn, does he really think this is really NFL land. I don’t want T to hear that Latree Spreewell nonsense (I got kids to feed). This isn’t Wall Street. Get your agent to sign some contracts for you outside NIL ( make him earn his money damn it). Greed is not good…

While I agree Ohio State wins the majority of this year's matchup over several games, I disagree (guess I'm in that mood today). The Buckeyes' loss to Michigan was the reason they're on a steamroll. But they nearly lost their Jedi status on Friday. Penalties hurt them. I haven't seen the game yet, so I'm only guessing here, they tried to bully Texas (got caught up on that I'm more physical than you stuff). I've watched Texas enough to know they had no business stopping a power passing team like Ohio State's. Which brings us back to the Ducks. The rematch would have been an OSU victory because Lanning has yet to suit his defense to the talent level of his players. I don't think that happens eight times out of ten because clearly, teams have been able to handle OSU 's strengths on offense. Nebraska, Indiana, Penn State... I doubt Lanning keeps his same stuff next year, or even the next game against a lethal offense. That's the definition of insanity and Dan Lanning is not insane. He's still a gambler but he's a much better gambler. I actually thought the secondary was much better this year, but as I previously mentioned, you cannot have guys guessing who they should cover, and when players are that out of position, they don't know what they're doing. In other words, they are given rules that don't work against even ordinary offenses like Penn State and Michigan had this year. A safety is supposed to take away the deepest route in his area of responsibility. Far too many times I saw Safeties twenty yards outside their area of containment. That's unacceptable. As I've mentioned dozens of times, in games at that, Linebackers are eyeballing QBs like they're going to eat dinner. There's a reason QBs are told to "move a safety or LB out of position . One would think a DC would take note and at least bait a QB into a bad throw. Given taking a QB's options away isn't part of the script, I see dark days ahead for OBD until they learn that lesson in a playoff game. This year's set of DBs could zone cover well enough to slow that lethal group of Buckeye WRs. That's the only way. The Mandalorian way. Ohio State barely gets out of its way. I hate to say that about Ryan Day, but now he has Chip, and Chip sure knows how to win his own way. That's is documented at this point ( I'll give him credit though, he found a way to take that late 4th quarter lead on Friday). That's why I don't believe Lanning allows an 8/10 run. This year or any year. When Lanning solves his pass coverage issues (some combo of above at least), he will win a Natty. And neither Ohio State, nor any other Blue Blood will stop him. Not even the refs will stop him once he figures that problem out. The Buckeyes are one of my favorite set of teams too. That's why I hate Ohio State fans. They damn near cost themselves a title this year.

I just don't get that upset anymore. OBD used to really, really SUCK. My first home game was a 3-63 obliteration I doubt will ever happen again in the history of the program. So what if it was bookended by another rout. This time, we're reigning B1G Champions coming off a 13-0 regular season. I expected a loss in the playoffs given how very few teams in the history of the game have gone 16-0 in a season. As in less than the fingers on a hand rare. That it was against Ohio State makes it sting. I'll take that damn ref fest in 2011 ( our first Natty appearance). Nothing sucks more than a conspiracy to prevent a new blue blood. That's my take and I'll die with a gun gripped in my hand before I'll accept another argument. We got robbed. I'll say it a hundred more times before I live my last breath.

Well, I will say this. He coached his current team better than EVERYONE EXPECTED. Including myself. You can't say he's not a good coach anymore. Like it or not, he exceeded expectations, and Colorado is way better for it. Neon did more for Colorado football than any coach since the late Bill McCartney. Not to mention, sometimes college football just needs a villain.