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Where the REST of the Pac is Going...
That's what it said and I agree that OR ST is not in a position to demand a full share.
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Will Oregon Play USC, UCLA and UW Every Year?
Scott Dochterman covers the B1G for The Athletic (paywall.) Below are Scott's predictions for the 2024 Oregon and UW schedules. OREGON - Home - Washington, UCLA, OHIO STATE (YES!), Maryland (The Helmet Clash?), Minnesota Away - USC, Indiana, Illinois, Nebraska - 1 East Coast trip and 2 Central time zone trips, not bad at all. WASHINGTON - Home - USC, Iowa, Purdue, Penn State (a B1G biggie.) Away - UCLA, OREGON, Maryland, Michigan State (back-to-back?), Wisconsin. 2 Eastern time zone trios; 1 Central time zone trip. Scott came close to nailing the B1G (16) permanent-flex schedule. Would be nice to have 5 conference games at home in 2024 with only 1 traditional B1G biggie, Ohio State on the schedule and coming to Autzen. If Scott's projection is correct, I like Oregon's 2024 schedule more than UW's schedule. Scott does believe that the West Coast teams will play one another every year.
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Will Oregon Play USC, UCLA and UW Every Year?
1 LA school a year and the final regular season game versus UW could very well happen. In CBB and the non-revenue sports, I think Oregon will see a double dose, or more, of the LA schools and UW.
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Where the REST of the Pac is Going...
Joining the B12 would be great for the Beavers and take some of the heat off of Oregon. College football realignment rumors: Big 12 not done expanding as surprise targets emerge FANSIDED.COM College football realignment is far from over as the Big 12 sniffs around the leftover programs in the Pac-12 and Mountain West. If...
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Will Oregon Play USC, UCLA and UW Every Year?
Upon further review, my call may not stand. Fox is paying mucho dinero for the LA schools and football is the one sport with the fewest travel concerns. At the very least I see Oregon playing one of the LA schools every year and playing UW in the last game of the regular season. But: What In The Heck Do I Know?
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How Fox and ESPN Dismantled the Pac-12
KUDOS! This a spot-on analysis. From the overview of a capitalist enterprise, Fox played this perfectly. Fox did not bid against itself. Fox waited to go after Oregon and UW after the Pac-10, with Fox sitting on the sidelines as David so correctly noted, came up with a crummy Pac-10 media deal, aided and abetted by George Kliavkoff fiddling while the conference burned. This patience allowed Fox to 'buy' the Northwest schools at a discount. A discount that will run through the 2031 season. I demur slightly at pointing the finger only at ESPN and Fox. When Oklahoma and a few other schools, including Georgia as one of the litigants, sued to end the NCAA's broadcast monopoly and with Oklahoma's triumph sustained in the mid-1980s by the Supreme Court, the floodgates were opened for media companies to take advantage of the decision and college football teams and their respective conferences, gladly opened their wallets to cash in. No one forced the schools to take the money, build Taj Mahal-like facilities, and pay college football coaches unheard sums of money. Then, the SEC commissioner, Roy Kramer, sold the ACC, B1G, B12, and Pac-12 on the idea that college football needed "One True Champion." The game went national and money if it had not done so already, ruled the college football roost. And the NCAA itself was most certainly not above the fray as it continued to expand the size of the basketball tournament so it could bring in millions of more dollars. We are told that once upon a time a man was offered the governance of and attendant riches from, being the King of all the principalities in the world. Although tempted, the man declined the offer. When you accept this kind of offer and gladly take the money and do all you can for more money, Airplane Conferences managed by media companies behind the scenes are the inevitable result. It's sad for the left behind schools. But in any capitalistic endeavor, there will be winners and losers. Viewed from the window of today's big-time college sports, I am so happy that Oregon agreed to pay a media future premium and to align itself with one of the two Power Conferences in the world of college athletics. Again David, thanks for the terrific and timely article.
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Will Oregon Play USC, UCLA and UW Every Year?
I'm pretty certain that the West Coast teams will meet every year to cut down on travel going in both directions. East Coast teams have no more desire to play out West than have USC, UCLA, Oregon, and UW to play at Maryland and Rutgers. I'm reasonably certain that the B1G will move to 10 conference games so each school will have 5 home and away conference games. I'd like to see Nebraska, the western-most B1G school as of today, in a five-team permanent rotation so each team in the western rotation would have 2 away and home games every year. 4 games in the west would mean limited travel to the Eastern time zone and also limited travel to the Central time zone, sans playing at Nebraska every other year. Under the current 9 conference game schedule, Oregon would only have to trip East beyond Nebraska 2 or 3 times a year. Besides getting them at a discount, limiting travel for all sports including football was a reason to add Oregon and UW.
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Who Should Oregon Schedule in the Future Other than the Beavs?
No B12 teams unless OR ST joins the B12 and absolutely no 2-for-1 series with G5 teams. The B1G will go to a 10-game conference schedule likely by 2026. There will be no reason to schedule an OOC heavyweight. Enough of these heavyweights, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, Iowa, UCLA, UW, and USC reside in-conference to provide all of the SOS that Oregon will need. Play SEC teams and Clemson and FSU in the expanded playoff. The game will no longer be worth the candle to risk a potential loss OOC. More important to find middle weights that will give Oregon not fewer than 7 home games every year.
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More B1G Tidbits of Interest...
THIS should happen. With the in-conference SOS and an expanded playoff field, this will not hurt Oregon's ability to make the field. Oregon now has Est Coast Bias cache and games over lower-level B1G teams will just mean more than games against lower-rung Pac-12 teams. And will be viewed by far more fans. I'm looking forward to the read.
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More B1G Tidbits of Interest...
I see this coming as soon as 2026 when the SEC will also have at least 20 teams. There will be a 16-team playoff with no auto bids and seeding preferences for conference champs. The B1G and the SEC will send at least 3 teams and more often 4 teams every year to the playoff.
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Will Oregon Play USC, UCLA and UW Every Year?
This scheduling format is no longer, like the Pac-12, relevant.
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Will Oregon Play USC, UCLA and UW Every Year?
Yes. Every year. With SC and UCLA on the schedule more often than when they played in the Pac-12.
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It's True: The New B1G Will Be STRONGER than the SEC
Hickey: Will the B1G 18 prove to be the new ‘Conference of Champions’? SATURDAYTRADITION.COM Has anyone thought of poor Bill Walton? With the Pac-12 dying, will the B1G inherit the mantle of 'Conference of Champions?' Hope so.
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Recruiting for Oregon in the B1G...
Come on! B1G recruiting sans Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State is not close to SEC recruiting year after year. And the results show up on the football field and in the NFL draft. But I love this! This is the stuff that comes with East Coast Bias. And Oregon recruits will be able to watch real football media coverage on the B1G Network instead of watching on Larry's Lemonade Stand.
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Recruiting for Oregon in the B1G...
Could be? Especially if Donte does not get the starting nod in 2023 and perhaps, not the NIL deals he could have received from Division Street? UCLA is way down the LA sports scene ladder and Moore playing at Oregon will now have the same opportunity to play his homeboys at Michigan and Michigan State.
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Recruiting for Oregon in the B1G...
However, I watched both Oregon and Ohio State play Georgia last season and as I recall, the Ohio State game was a bit closer than the Oregon game. I watched Penn State toy with Utah. Michigan? Next case. Michigan broke off a huge run to open the game against TCU. Then it called a number of suspect plays in the Red Zone and an 'NFL coach,' Jim Harbaugh, stupidly went for it on 4th down instead of kicking the FG and walking off the field with first possession points. What's your deal? I think a lot of the slow B1G rubric belongs with no conference plays D like the SEC; the B12 schools can't play D and West Coast teams are soft. (OK, maybe there's some truth to the last rubric?) In general, I do agree with you, friend Hayward. Ducks should have speed unmatched by any school other than Ohio State and the unbelievably good group of WRs at Ohio State. Tougher road to the playoff? I'll take playing Rutgers, Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern, and Minnesota over playing Utah, Oregon State, Washington State in Pullman, and playing at ASU. I think the Ducks are B1G Tier 1 and the notoriety of defeating lesser B1G teams will go a lot further than playing lesser Pac teams in games off of the national radar.
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It's True: The New B1G Will Be STRONGER than the SEC
Great take David plus come 2024, Oregon will be part of 'East Coast Bias' and come 2026, part of 16 team field (my guess) with a different format to that originally put together by the MW commissioner, the Notre Dame AD, the B12's Bob Bowlsby and the SEC's Greg Sankey. With CFB now down to a Power 4, Sankey and the B1G commissioner, Tony Petitti, in particular, will not go for giving 6 conference champs automatic bids and most likely, with not go for seeding preferences for conference champions. Both will want the top-ranked teams seeded in the order of ranking with 1 group of 5 representative only if a G5 team is not ranked in the top 16. Come 2026, the CFB football playoff revenue, without the ESPN exclusive and open bidding, is expected to grow to $1.5 Billion. I also expect to see come 2026 the SEC with at least 20 member teams, the season will uniformly begin on what is now Week 0, 10 B1G, and SEC conference games with the B12 and the G5 marginalized by strength-of-schedule. We are living in the world of Power 2 conferences with both more than willing to throw their weight around. I can easily conceive of a 2 loss Bama in 2022 winning it all, and even a three-loss team getting hot at the end of the season and winning it all. Especially if a team is seeded in the top 8 and ends up playing 2 playoff games on its home field. Brave or not, it's a new college football world. And there is nothing the least bit collegial about any of this.
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It's True: The New B1G Will Be STRONGER than the SEC
UNC a B1G candidate? Yes. But NC State is not an AAU member school and this matters to B1G presidents. ACC AAU member schools - Pitt, UVA, Georgia Tech, UNC, Duke, and Miami.
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It's True: The New B1G Will Be STRONGER than the SEC
Power 3, if that. Miami was the 59th most (least?) watched in 2022 with an average of 608 viewers, fewer than Cal, Stanford, Washington State, and Oregon State. The Miami media market is smaller than the Orlando market. I can see the SEC adding FSU, the 15th most-watched team in the country on average in 2022, but not both FSU and Miami. Florida will be forced to accept FSU as A+M was forced to accept Texas but Florida will not be forced to agree to add FSU and Miami, a small private school without its own stadium. In addition to FSU, better ACC targets for the SEC are Clemson, UNC, NC State, and perhaps, even once-upon-a-time SEC member Georgia Tech. BTW, if asked in jest, you hooked me in!
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How We Got Here
Jon Wilner in an article up today on The Mercury News, has an article up on the 12 Steps to Pac-12 Destruction. Paywall protected but PA Ducks has pulled a Wilner paywall end run on numerous occasions and hope she will do so here. Borrowing from AA's 1st step of the 12 steps in recovery - We came to believe that we were powerless over inept leadership accompanied by hubris. In summary: See Foot, Shoot! At every fork in the business road, the Pac-12 went the wrong way. Oregon leadership was part and parcel of this nonsense. But with the help of Phil Knight and NIKE, Oregon built a national brand larger than that of Portland's 22nd place in Nielson rankings. A national awareness greater than that of fellow B1G newbie, UW, located in the #12 ranked media market. Phil Knight and progressive marketing threw Oregon a college sports lifeline. Oregon had no other reasonable business choice than to join the B1G as a junior revenue member. IMO, this is a bet that will pay off handsomely come 2031 and a new B1G media deal; a decision that provides long-term security for Oregon in an inexorable move to Power 2 conferences, leaving behind a bunch of college teams that did not make the cut.
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It's True: The New B1G Will Be STRONGER than the SEC
David, with a Power 4 I'm not sure that the 6 conference champs being in the field will hold up. And come 2026, I expect a 16-team field with one team outside of the Power 4 promised a slot, no 1st round byes, and the B1G and the SEC routinely sending 3+ teams to the Playoff. If I am correct, which is, of course, doubtful, no Pac-12 team that left for the B12 and the prior add-ons to the B12, BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, and UCF, will make the field other than 1 B12 team that wins the conference title. When the ACC implodes and the B1G adds Notre Dame, UNC, Duke, and UVA and the SEC adds Clemson, FSU, NC State, and Georgia Tech, will there be a 'Playoff' beyond a field of Power 2 teams? Likely yes, because of anti-trust issues but B1G and SEC teams will dominate the field.
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The Condescension, the Arrogance, the FEAR of Oregon from USC...Whew!
OK, where Riley hung his hat and went playoff 0-3, and BTW, how has SC vs Oregon worked out lately? Now, Oregon has the chance to beat down SC every season and not every so often because of the Cali scheduling agreement. Another reason why the Pac-12 cratered is the Pac powers-that-be handing UCLA the easiest conference schedule in 2023 and handing Troy the week off before the final Pac-12 champ game. With 'friends' like these, why would any school with a better alternative not bolt?
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It's True: The New B1G Will Be STRONGER than the SEC
Here, FWIW, not much, is one scenario as to how B1G permanent scheduling football partners could break down. Nebraska, OREGON, UCLA, USC, UW Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern, Wisconsin Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Rutgers Indiana, Maryland, Penn State, Purdue
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Bill Oram Declares: The Death of the Pac-12 is Blood on Oregon's Hands
Paltry? This is a future bet that in 2031 will yield $70M to $80M dollars.
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It's True: The New B1G Will Be STRONGER than the SEC
But, Show Me the Titles? 1 for the B1G (SIGH.) Since 1936, the SEC claims 30 football titles. has won 6 College Football Playoff titles. In the Playoff to date, the combined B1G, Oregon, and UW record is 4-9. Ohio State - 3-4/ Michigan - 0-2/ Michigan State 0-1/ UW - 0-1/ OREGON - 1-1. Show Me the Money! Yes. But the B1G is lacking in CFB/CBB Moneyball titles. Puddles, please change this ASAP!