oregon112

I have been on the Lane Train for a long time now... He can recruit and he knows schemes and plays. He is a rebel and a G and a dog, all in one. GET YOUR POPCORN READY

ESPN or whoever it was, gave Stanford something like a 1% chance on their last drive. How many times have college teams driven the field in two minutes? Countless. So that last drive was more like a 50% chance. I think AB should have thrown a couple of jump balls to tall receivers down around the 10 yd line. Get a PI penalty, a catch, or even an INT. It is all as good as giving them back the ball with 2 minutes left in the game.

Great points. If we can see it and the announcers can see it and experts can draw it up after the games, then I'm sure the coordinators can see it as well. So why hasn't there been enough improvement over almost the first half of the season? THAT is where I start to question the level of coaching going on. Any coach or scheme can get victimized, but adjustments should be made by the next series of downs. The 3-4 gives you four LBs across the field 8 yards deep on pass plays. When teams are burning the Ducks in their 4 man front, why not switch in a different look? And then send in a blitz where they won't know where it is coming from? It seems like the defense is stuck in being one dimensional and the opposing offense knows exactly what plays to call that cannot be stopped. Maybe the defense is so new that it is not up to the point of putting in different looks yet?

First, if you take the Oregon roster and put them in a system like Alabama, or Ohio St - what kind of product would you get on the field? We all know - a very good one. Mario has 2 new coordinators. He has a starting QB that is not even at the pac12 level, let alone a playoff level or top 5 level. These coordinators have had great success in the past with less talent than they have now. The team is not meshing/clicking on offense nor on defense. I have noticed that the inside LBs pass D has been horrible except for Flowe. Flowe could cover, but Noah can't. Is that on the coaches or is it natural ability? Wright can jump to deflect a lob pass, but James didn't on the last play. Is that coaching too? Dorlus is playing like an All-American. Somebody coached him. I don't think Stevens has broken up a pass all year. Overall, these players have talent, and some of them have some issues. Ducks need a QB who can run the RPO, and some changes to the pass defense. Make those tweaks and you have a whole different team.

In addition to your receivers example, I will give a LB in coverage example. I played inside LB in high school. We drilled dropping back in coverage. We looked for the slant first, then continued dropping into our zones looking for curl routes and then crossing routes. We were taught to communicate on the crossing routes. And if no one was coming into the zone, we slowly backpeddled to help with the deep routes. That was in the late 1970s. The Oregon LBs vs Stanford were just standing around just behind the defensive linemen while the Stanford receivers were catching balls 10 yds deep in what should have been the LB's zones. Noah did make a play on pass defense - that is when he got his arm jammed up on the receiver. There are a lot of things wrong with how this team plays on the field.

I think the snake dumped him for Iridale. But like I said last year, the team was not in shape. Radcliff had the team in shape and playing fast on the field. When I played in high school, what you could bench press or squat meant nothing on the field. Instead, the players who had instincts and quick reactions were the ones who played better. But as for pure physical development, Dye and Verdell were getting extra yards on Stanford's defenders. And they couldn't do it like that in the past. So they are getting better individually. Funa looks better this year than he did last year.

I would have tried to throw for a first down. Throwing deep could give them a pass interference penalty and a first down. A completion and a first down. An INT would be just like a punt. And if no one is open take a knee for a sack - you would have to punt then anyway with a pooch punt. Giving a team a full 2 minutes to drive the field is too much time. Timeouts or no timeouts. You also have to consider how good their QB was.

I saw the O line and D line give it their all in the second half. Pittman ran like he was possessed on his catch and punt returns. Wright battled hard. Verdell and Dye were getting extra yards after contact. What was missing was the net result. With a change at QB, I still think they could be the #3 team. But now they need another RB, and some consistency at weakside LB. KT & Funa played hard on the edges. And the last offensive drive, the O line blocked the best they had done all year - only the procedure calls let Stanford get the ball back.

KILLED in the TRENCHES: Here is when that happened to Oregon: 2010 natty - Auburn running the ball down the defense's throat last drive of the game. 2011 LSU - blowing out the defense. 2014 natty - Zeke Elliot. AND the 2nd half - Oregon killing Stanford in the trenches. Last season - the beavs killed Oregon in the trenches. This season - Oregon beat Ohio St in the trenches. That is just the way I have seen it.

I read that article and I was amazed at how much I did not pick up on while watching the same game. The author is clearly very well versed in college football. I was very humbled from reading that article. I thought I knew a lot about football. What else I got from that is just how complicated the RPO system is. It is so complex, that maybe you need your #1 guy to be in place at Spring camp? Could they even start TT if they wanted to? Could he make those reads? Does he even know the freakin plays? How much of the playbook would have to be shaved down for TT to play? That article made me think that maybe the problem is not the scheme. Those plays would have worked. And they did call some downfield shots, but Brown couldn't hit the target. I am convinced that in game 5, the starter SHOULD have done better. I still say give TT (or one of the others) the Cal game and see what happens. Then go back to Brown if need be.

2 excellent points. Sweeny and Saban made QB changes, but will Cristobal? AND, Clemson's QB and Bama's QB were actually good! Brown's ceiling: I thought Brown was 'rusty' in 2020 after not playing most of the season. But clearly, he started the first half of this year and he STILL cannot throw the ball down the field. He doesn't need more time/more reps, he just can't do it. He can't properly evaluate the reads either. And he can't look off his first receiver when covered and find another one, even if he has time in the pocket. With a bye week and a lame Cal team at home coming up, it is a no-brainer to give TT a shot. Even if he doesn't work out, give him the first qtr. Then you can put Brown back in and still win the game.

That is not what I have been seeing. Look at the second half vs Stanford. Ducks were dominating the line. In other games, it has been back and forth. Ducks did well on the line vs Ohio St, and they have top linemen. On offense, the downfield passing threat does not exist, so teams load up and stop the run. On defense, many players have been out, so watch that the next few weeks - it should get better. You can't blame either situation on the players.

The only other game that I really paid attention to Brown was his games last season. And then he was mostly on target, with a few slightly bad throws on deep balls, but not off by much. One deep pass was perfect, but got called back on a penalty. Fast Forward to last game. He had ONLY ONE accurate pass down the field - to Dye close to the goal line, about a 10 yd pass. He had lots of very nice short passes sideways where he led the receivers perfectly, and the one to Pittman was led so nicely that Pittman outran the coverage on the crossing pattern and took it way down the field. But you take away that one pass, and he only threw for 120 yds. He MISSED on a half dozen throws that should have been completions. On top of that, he does the Shough move - pulls it down and runs forward BEFORE there is any pass rush. He can't make quick decisions on the read option. It seems that he predetermines the read instead of reading the defense. I'm just a fan and I can see all of this. Brown had his run. He had his turn. He got his chance. He got to play for coming here. Brown can still do short yardage packages, like he did for the pac12 champ game. But now it is someone else's turn. This isn't pickup basketball at the YMCA. This is major college football. Even the Stoneybrook QB was better than Brown. Seeing a new QB is the ONLY thing I now care about with this team. I can't take it anymore. It hurts too much.

Outside of this, I just want to know when Dog will catch that Laundrie guy. I don't have any other internet interests other than checking the surf report. As for giving up on being emotionally connected to the team, I gave up on the Blazers long ago when Brandon Roy hogged the ball. I lost interest and never cared again. I am on the verge of not caring about Oregon football because of how they are coached. I watch other pac12 games on a free site, and I see teams that are set up to play competitive college football. This is four years in a row that I have felt that way. This offense is like 4 yrs of Brady Hoke defense. When I saw the end of the game when Az St was taking it to UCLA, I was thinking - we would lose to them too.

Yes, and even if they are big, 5 cannot block 9. You need some kind of misdirection on 4th and 1 at the goal line. Or a jump ball to someone tall like Devon Williams. And if you want to go 'power', then shotgun (or pistol) spread is not the way to do it. You could go 'wildcat' with Ashford - let him run to the field side with pitch or throw options. With his speed, it would be a nightmare to defend.

If my memory was right, James was covering and his feet were on the ground when the receiver went up and caught the ball. If Bridges and his 6 -3 length and long arms plus a jump could have went up and got a piece of the ball, Oregon would still be undefeated right now. But I think he was kicked out for targeting on the first kickoff. Anyway, I was thinking that James should have tackled the receiver before the ball got there and made them run another play. Better than letting a taller receiver go up and get that perfectly thrown ball. I'm going to try and stop posting and get back to my life. That game is driving me nuts.

And we got outcoached in 2019 by Az St - when winning out would have made it a playoff year. Ducks had a lot of future NFL talent that season.

I'll give up for the season IF I don't see any big changes in the Cal game. It is clear to everybody that big changes need to be made. Oregon can still be a one loss team. There are 3 talented RBs to replace Verdell and there are 3 talented QBs to replace Brown. Dollars may come back soon? But if I see the same old crap in two weeks, then I am throwing in the towel.

For Oregon to get it back together and make the playoffs... Texas needs to beat Oklahoma. I think everybody else but Ga/Bama will get cut down with the rest of their schedules.

No, they didn't play at Stanford's level. Oregon O line, D line, LBs, RBs, all outplayed Stanford's players at those positions. By a long shot. Oregon is playing with one hand tied behind their back with an inaccurate QB and poor schemes.

I have an idea. It all depends on how stubborn Cristobal is. Moorhead and DeRuyter are pros at Xs and Os. Will Mario listen? Or does he tell them what to do and not want any feedback? The changes are obvious. Change QBs. Incorporate some downfield passing to take the pressure of the line of scrimmage. And start covering the short passes, especially over the middle. The coordinators are experienced pros - they can do this. Will Mario let them? I also will be watching just to see if and what changes occur in the Cal game and beyond. Fresno St figured out how to move the ball on the Ducks. And now Stanford figured out how to defend the Ducks. If no changes are made, then the rest of the pac12 already has the blueprint on how to play the Ducks. So it could get better, or it could get real bad. What I don't want to see: Same old same old vs Cal and a one score victory. I hope the team surprises us all and shows us the changes that we want to see. This team is really not that far from being a top 5 team - potentially.

The wakeup call should have been the Fresno St game. A team full of 4 and 5 star players barely beating a Mtn West team at home.

I'm ready for the Lane Kiffen - get your popcorn ready offense! Go look at all the points his team scores this year and last and he has his QB in the Heisman race. "Can you live with Mario’s flaws?" I thought I could... if he hired the right coordinators. But I keep the seeing the same ultra-conservative stuff on both offense and defense. "Is Mario the ONLY one who can recruit at Oregon" No. The snake could do it. Chip could get players - some of them lacked 'stars', but the ones he got could play college football. Belloti had good players - look at that 2007 team - it was full of beasts and they had speed. It is One in Ten-Million… Cristobal doesn't need to be that 1 in 10 million guy. All he has to do is let his coordinators do their jobs and get out of the way. But he can't do that. When Ty did not come in the game for even one series... it deflated all my hopes and dreams. When that game went into overtime -- who here did not already KNOW what the outcome was going to be??? ANSWER: McKee was going to throw a TD pass and Brown was going to throw incompletes - or tuck it and run for 2 yds. WHEN THERE ARE 3 BACKUPS WHO CAN THROW BETTER THAN BROWN AND BROWN CANNOT COMPLETE A DOWNFIELD THROW, AND SAID BACKUPS DON'T GET IN THE GAME, YOU KNOW CRISTOBAL JUST WANTS TO RUN HIS BRAND OF FOOTBALL - which doesn't work anymore in the two thousand and twenties.

A great play would have been a play action pass in the end zone. Or a sweep to the far side. Or even a QB under center with DJ as a full back and RB dive over the top - that play always gets a yard.

I can take a guess. All season long, they have been burned by QBs who can throw the ball, even though this team has better receivers, except for Ohio St. They are getting tired of being more talented at most positions, but not playing up to the level of their talent. The good ones just want to be successful at their positions and move on to the pros. The mediocre ones want to end their football careers as well as they can, then go get a job somewhere. Sooner or later, they are all going to mentally and emotionally 'check out' and not be into it anymore. They came here to win, not to lose to unranked teams.