Solar No. 1 Share Posted November 26, 2023 I'm short on time to do this myself, but if one or more people here could help to do the following it could make a difference in Bo's Heisman voting: Step 1: Watch you tube summary video (there is typically a 25 minute game summary video) on every game Bo played and document time of game for Bo's last play, where Ty Thompson came in and relieved him the next series. Step 2: write downs Bo's stats for each game: Total yards passing Total yards rushing Total completions Total touchdowns Total Interceptions Step 3: Multiple each games stats x 60 divided by total game minutes played Step 4: Add each games playing time adjusted stats for a regular season playing time adjusted (extrapolated) stats. Step 5: Do the same for JD if he was ever pulled early during a blowout. Step 6: compare playing time adjusted (extrapolated) regular season stats. Step 7: Post comparison of playing time adjusted stats as Twitter replies to major post as a Twitter reply to a major networks Twitter posts on Bo vs. Daniels Heisman comparisons. Step 8: Send complete analysis to Oregon beat Twitter Posters like Geoff Schwartz, so they can independently verify and send out as well. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Haulin No. 2 Share Posted November 26, 2023 ESPN has play by play for every game. Would be much quicker than watching videos 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Haulin No. 3 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Ty played in 6 games. Nix out at: PSU: 14:09 Q3 HAW: 11:30 Q3 COL: 2:48 Q3 STAN: 11:33 Q4 CAL: 14:13 Q4 ASU: 9:14. Q3 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Author No. 4 Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) Thank you Log Haulin! Here are the stat multipliers for each game: PSU: 1.93 HAW: 1.76 COL: 1.40 STAN: 1.22 CAL: 1.30 ASU: 1.67 Next we need someone to pull Bo's stats for every single game, whether he was pulled early or not. Edited November 26, 2023 by Solar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Author No. 5 Share Posted November 26, 2023 It looks like Daniels was pulled early in games vs Grambling St., Miss State and Army. He wasn't pulled at all against Georgia State to pad his Heisman resume, which is another reason why we need to do this exercise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Haulin No. 6 Share Posted November 26, 2023 On 11/26/2023 at 9:48 AM, Solar said: I'm short on time to do this myself, but if one or more people here could help to do the following it could make a difference in Bo's Heisman voting: Step 1: Watch you tube summary video (there is typically a 25 minute game summary video) on every game Bo played and document time of game for Bo's last play, where Ty Thompson came in and relieved him the next series. Step 2: write downs Bo's stats for each game: Total yards passing Total yards rushing Total completions Total touchdowns Total Interceptions Step 3: Multiple each games stats x 60 divided by total game minutes played Step 4: Add each games playing time adjusted stats for a regular season playing time adjusted (extrapolated) stats. Step 5: Do the same for JD if he was ever pulled early during a blowout. Step 6: compare playing time adjusted (extrapolated) regular season stats. Step 7: Post comparison of playing time adjusted stats as Twitter replies to major post as a Twitter reply to a major networks Twitter posts on Bo vs. Daniels Heisman comparisons. Step 8: Send complete analysis to Oregon beat Twitter Posters like Geoff Schwartz, so they can independently verify and send out as well. Bo Nix 2023 Stats per Game - NCAAF - ESPN WWW.ESPN.COM The 2023 NCAAF season stats per game for Bo Nix of the Oregon Ducks on ESPN... Not really my strong suit figuring this stuff out but here is Nix stats for each game 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCKED No. 7 Share Posted November 26, 2023 I would like to help but I'm binge watching Bosch Legacy right now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikethehiker No. 8 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Maybe points per drive would be a good metric? I’m still blown away that Bo Nix and the Ducks have the #1 total passing yards in college football this year. A stunning accomplishment given QB talent across the board in a traditional run first offense! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLind10 No. 9 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Here’s a screenshot of the stats I’ve calculated, feel free to double check my numbers! I joined just to contribute to this task 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Author No. 10 Share Posted November 27, 2023 On 11/27/2023 at 11:51 AM, HLind10 said: Here’s a screenshot of the stats I’ve calculated, feel free to double check my numbers! I joined just to contribute to this task Awesome! Thank you so much. I'm curious how they will compare to Jayden Daniels adjusted numbers, but those numbers by themselves are outrageous! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Author No. 11 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) This article is why we need to do this exercise! Jayden Daniels for Heisman: LSU touts QB leading 25 of 30 categories as ‘the guy, and it’s not close’ WWW.SATURDAYDOWNSOUTH.COM Jayden Daniels for the Heisman Trophy is coming down to the stretch run. Can somebody help do Jayden Daniels' game time adjusted stats like we did Bo Nix so we can get an apples to apples stat comparison to send out to the masses please? Edited November 27, 2023 by Solar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikethehiker No. 12 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) On 11/26/2023 at 3:14 PM, mikethehiker said: Maybe points per drive would be a good metric? Well, I put in the work and might as well post it. Not the outcome I expected but razor thin nonetheless. Ground rules: -Only counted drives where Nix and Daniels remained in the game. -Drives intended to run out the clock at the end of halves and points were not awarded for defensive touchdowns. -QBs did receive points for PATs following offensive TDs along with FGs. -Additionally, interceptions, QB fumbles, and TO on downs were attributed as QB responsible turnovers. Bo Nix PSU - 8 drives for 57 points TTU - 11 drives for 31 points HAW - 7 drives for 41 points COL - 8 drives for 42 points, 1 INT, 1 TO Downs STAN - 9 drives for 42 points WAS - 11 drives for 33 points, 3 TO Downs WSU - 10 drives for 38 points UTA - 10 drives for 35 points, 1 RB fumble CAL - 12 drives for 49 points, 1 INT, 1 WR fumble (Cal returned for TD) USC - 8 drives for 36 points ASU - 7 drives for 42 points OSU - 8 drives for 31 points Total - 109 drives for 477 points, 6 turnovers (2 INTs, 4 on downs) Points per drive: 4.38 Jayden Daniels FSU - 11 drives for 24 points, 1 INT, 3 TO downs GRA - 6 drives for 42 points MSU - 8 drives for 41 points ARK - 9 drives for 34 points, 1 INT Ole - 13 drives for 49 points, 1 QB fumble, 1 TO downs MIZ - 11 drives for 42 points AUB - 10 drives for 48 points, 1 INT Army - 7 drives for 38 points ALA - 8 drives for 28 points, 1 INT, 1 TO downs FLA - 11 drives for 52 points, 2 TO downs GST - 8 drives for 56 points TAM - 9 drives for 42 points Total - 111 drives for 496 points, 11 turnovers (4 INTs, 7 TO on downs) Points per drive: 4.47 This is unbelievably close and at these rates JD scores 9 additional points over 100 drives. JD played the entire game again Georgia State and scored a TD on every drive. For Nix, the Washington game really hurt (3.0 ppd) mostly due to the 3 turnover on downs which is half of Nix's turnovers for the year. Hopefully, Nix and the Ducks get redemption on Friday and Nix vaults to the top of every Heisman ballot. Edited November 28, 2023 by mikethehiker 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Author No. 13 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/27/2023 at 7:59 PM, mikethehiker said: Well, I put in the work and might as well post it. Not the outcome I expected but razor thin nonetheless. Ground rules: -Only counted drives where Nix and Daniels remained in the game. -Drives intended to run out the clock at the end of halves and points were not awarded for defensive touchdowns. -QBs did receive points for PATs following offensive TDs along with FGs. -Additionally, interceptions, QB fumbles, and TO on downs were attributed as QB responsible turnovers. Bo Nix PSU - 8 drives for 57 points TTU - 11 drives for 31 points HAW - 7 drives for 41 points COL - 8 drives for 42 points, 1 INT, 1 TO Downs STAN - 9 drives for 42 points WAS - 11 drives for 33 points, 3 TO Downs WSU - 10 drives for 38 points UTA - 10 drives for 35 points, 1 RB fumble CAL - 12 drives for 49 points, 1 INT, 1 WR fumble (Cal returned for TD) USC - 8 drives for 36 points ASU - 7 drives for 42 points OSU - 8 drives for 31 points Total - 109 drives for 477 points, 6 turnovers (2 INTs, 4 on downs) Points per drive: 4.38 Jayden Daniels FSU - 11 drives for 24 points, 1 INT, 3 TO downs GRA - 6 drives for 42 points MSU - 8 drives for 41 points ARK - 9 drives for 34 points, 1 INT Ole - 13 drives for 49 points, 1 QB fumble, 1 TO downs MIZ - 11 drives for 42 points AUB - 10 drives for 48 points, 1 INT Army - 7 drives for 38 points ALA - 8 drives for 28 points, 1 INT, 1 TO downs FLA - 11 drives for 52 points, 2 TO downs GST - 8 drives for 56 points TAM - 9 drives for 42 points Total - 111 drives for 496 points, 11 turnovers (4 INTs, 7 TO on downs) Points per drive: 4.47 This is unbelievably close and at these rates JD scores 9 additional points over 100 drives. JD played the entire game again Georgia State and scored a TD on every drive. For Nix, the Washington game really hurt (3.0 ppd) mostly due to the 3 turnover on downs which is half of Nix's turnovers for the year. Hopefully, Nix and the Ducks get redemption on Friday and Nix vaults to the top of every Heisman ballot. This is excellent too! Bo doesn't have to beat Jayden Daniels straight up on the stat lines, it just has to be somewhat close. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLind10 No. 14 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) Drumroll Jayden Daniel’s extrapolated stats. Nix wins in every category except rush yards and TDs, which is to be expected with Daniel’s run game. Both great QBs without a doubt. Edited November 28, 2023 by HLind10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Haulin No. 15 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Doesn't help that Lewis cant hit a FG beyond 30 yds 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckman60 No. 16 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I would be curious to see what each players stats are for the first half and thru the 3rd quarter. Hopefully Heisman voters look at the Georgia state game and see that JD was still throwing (4 out of 5 plays) in the middle of the 4th quarter when they were up 49-14 to get him another TD. Bo would have been out of the game by the 4th quarter if not sooner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Author No. 17 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/27/2023 at 11:05 PM, HLind10 said: Drumroll Jayden Daniel’s extrapolated stats. Nix wins in every category except rush yards and TDs, which is to be expected with Daniel’s run game. Both great QBs without a doubt. Thank you so much! Who can take the points per drive and 60 minutes extrapolation data and post in Twitter per the original post in this topic? Could be both a thread with the methodology and breakdown as well as a single tweet with just comparison of the totals (pts per drive, and extrapolated totals if they'd played the full 60 minutes of every game). Header for the tweet could be: "Bo Nix and Jayden Daniels stats aren't so different once you normalize them to the number of opportunities they had." 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
