HDuck No. 1 Share Posted August 2 With the transition today to the B1G there will probably be another round of "half-share" demagoguery from skeptics about the move. Reminder, this column pretty well addressed the fact that "half-shares" apply to just one component of total B1G revenue opportunities. https://sports360az.com/washingtons-budget-forecast-provides-clues-to-big-ten-revenue-distributions-as-an-18-team-conference/ 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabbaNoBargain No. 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) Interesting. Even if every mark was hit, the most optimistic version of the P12 “deal” was horrendous. Purely from a short-term (least important aspect IMO) fiscal perspective, this was a no brainer. The larger implication of being in a P2 in the current landscape really trumps everything in my view. The only version of the PAC9 continuing that would have been worth considering would have been if we were guaranteed a larger share (double) coupled with a legitimate TV deal and the PAC champ being guaranteed a playoff spot. Even with that, the move with a half-share is still the better option, but it would have been worth considering. Edited August 2 by JabbaNoBargain 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroBurst61 No. 3 Share Posted August 2 Wow. In no way shape or form would a media rights deal for the conference formally known as the PAC12 would have even come close to the MINIMUM that will be made through these varied revenue streams, the half share only being one of those revenues. Duck Football is positioned, quite well, to "cash-in", Now and into the near future, on the several additional revenue streams available by Being "in" the B1G. Hate as much as the next guy about the conference formally known as the PAC12 being "gone"; but cannot blame the "program" for acting in the best financially responsible way to continue to meet or exceed the longterm goals or plans. Yeah, the half share thing is not nearly as B1G of a financial issue when you take these other revenue opportunities into account. Go Ducks! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDuck Author No. 4 Share Posted August 2 As the UW explained at that time.... a large "maybe" with the Apple deal was incentives which were a big risk factor for revenue; and, there was no linear component lined up at that time. UW was very aware of what that might mean for recruiting going forward. Ultimately, OS and WSU were certainly interested in a linear component as well which they found with The CW, albeit at a low payout. Some of Beavs fans made fun of the UW for seeking a linear guarantee, now they are touting the "visibility" that comes from the number of households with access to The CW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabbaNoBargain No. 5 Share Posted August 2 (edited) On 8/2/2024 at 1:31 PM, HDuck said: As the UW explained at that time.... a large "maybe" with the Apple deal was incentives which were a big risk factor for revenue; and, there was no linear component lined up at that time. UW was very aware of what that might mean for recruiting going forward. Ultimately, OS and WSU were certainly interested in a linear component as well which they found with The CW, albeit at a low payout. Some of Beavs fans made fun of the UW for seeking a linear guarantee, now they are touting the "visibility" that comes from the number of households with access to The CW. That’s their routine…mock the foolishness of the travel involved with a nationwide conference while looking for any hopeful rumor they might be getting secretly invited to a nationwide conference. Blind with envy at every turn. Edited August 2 by JabbaNoBargain 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 6 Share Posted August 2 I just wish Oregon was allowed to retain 100% of its bowl/college football playoff earnings, if we had to take a 50% share of the TV distributions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 7 Share Posted August 2 2031 - $100M+ per annum! And if CFB moves to unequal shares as I believe will happen, Oregon will be in line for a B1GGER piece of the pie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDuck Author No. 8 Share Posted August 2 "...allowed to retain 100% of its bowl/college football playoff earnings" Bowls, NCAA Tournament and CFP earnings are split equally with all schools in the conference, I believe. (i.e. 100 percent shares) While UW and UO start with 50 percent shares of the media deal portion. It might make an interesting twist if CFP participants were awarded two shares? That is, for example, if 3 teams qualified then the "conference pool" would be split 21 ways (not 18) with each of 3 participants getting two shares. Some formula like that might have saved the departure of UT & OU, and USC & UCLA?? Fox drove the train for USC/UCLA full shares. Had to be an irritant to Nebraska, Rutgers and Maryland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckley Palace No. 9 Share Posted August 3 (edited) Is it irritating that UCLA got a ride along invite with a 100 percent instant stake? Yeah. But they do bring things that Oregon just can't, things outside of thirty years of constant improvements can bring. One is Los Angeles. Fox which wrote the check for this is located there, it's the second largest market in the country. The closest metro area that is in the top 50 in Oregon is Portland. UCLA also offers up a top 10 public university(USC is private). They have money tied up that the B1G will only add to with their public land grant deals. Seriously look at the money bring generated here on the academic side. You know the egg head presidents of the B1G were salivating over that. Oregon brings the boom with Nike, Football, marketing, and track and field. UCLA brings in Los Angeles, Rose Bowl, basketball, Olympic sports(I don't know them all) and several top research grants. The B1G now has UCLA, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Illinois as Public Ivies. Along with private academic heavyweights like USC and Northwestern. Every school except Nebraska is a member of the AAU. The SEC only has Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri, Florida, and Georgia as elite public institutions. Vanderbilt is private. So UCLA is valuable to the B1G in ways they wouldn't be to any other conference. So I don't get to jealous when they got brought in at a higher rate. Their athletic department is running in the red prior to this move anyhow. Just like most of the former PAC members like Washington. Edited August 3 by Duckley Palace 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabbaNoBargain No. 10 Share Posted August 3 (edited) On 8/2/2024 at 5:23 PM, Duckley Palace said: Is it irritating that UCLA got a ride along invite with a 100 percent instant stake? Yeah. But they do bring things that Oregon just can't, things outside of thirty years of constant improvements can bring. One is Los Angeles. Fox which wrote the check for this is located there, it's the second largest market in the country. The closest metro area that is in the top 50 in Oregon is Portland. UCLA also offers up a top 10 public university(USC is private). They have money tied up that the B1G will only add to with their public land grant deals. Seriously look at the money bring generated here on the academic side. You know the egg head presidents of the B1G were salivating over that. Oregon brings the boom with Nike, Football, marketing, and track and field. UCLA brings in Los Angeles, Rose Bowl, basketball, Olympic sports(I don't know them all) and several top research grants. The B1G now has UCLA, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Illinois as Public Ivies. Along with private academic heavyweights like USC and Northwestern. Every school except Nebraska is a member of the AAU. The SEC only has Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri, Florida, and Georgia as elite public institutions. Vanderbilt is private. So UCLA is valuable to the B1G in ways they wouldn't be to any other conference. So I don't get to jealous when they got brought in at a higher rate. Their athletic department is running in the red prior to this move anyhow. Just like most of the former PAC members like Washington. Spot on. It’s nearly impossible for every conference addition to be a juggernaut at football. Adding a school that’s been the #1 public university for 5 years, is located in LA, plays at an iconic stadium, and has one of the most storied basketball programs ever…these things have a fair amount of appeal. Oh and my daughter is a senior to be there Edited August 3 by JabbaNoBargain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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