Friday at 10:29 PM4 days Moderator No. "I am not looking for an offensive coordinator," he said. "I've run the offense the last six years, I'll continue to do that, I'll continue to call the plays...play calling's not going to change, game planning's not going to change."My take . . . HALLE FRICKIN LUJAH
23 hours ago23 hr No. There's too much on a head coach these days, to be a play caller. It was one of the things that doomed Billy Napier. It's been a problem for Sarkasian and Day.Name a National Champion the last decade that had also been a primary play caller.
21 hours ago21 hr Moderator No. 1 hour ago, GatOrlando said:There's too much on a head coach these days, to be a play caller. It was one of the things that doomed Billy Napier. It's been a problem for Sarkasian and Day.Name a National Champion the last decade that had also been a primary play caller.Gat, how about your man, Steve Spurrier? OK, it was back in the 1990s and not in the 21st century, but Spurrier won many games, including the year of the messenger QB.Even more back, back, back, Paul Brown, who called the plays using a messenger guard.Lane Kiffin, although I think most of the plays are whispered in his ear by Charlie Weis, Jr. And also as you noted, Sark. Sark does not have a Natty, but he has many wins.Wherever he coached, the Pirate, Mike Leach, called the plays.And back in the dark ages, when I played, and through most of the 20th century, the QB on the field of play called the plays following the game plan crafted by his coach, including Jim Plunkett and many other successful QBs.And the best, experienced college QBs playing for successful programs, are allowed to audible. I don't think the person calling the plays matters more than the players executing the play calls.Jedd Fisch has called plays for college programs, including Michigan, and professional programs. I don't believe Fisch's calling plays is a detriment to his program. Is there a better Husky play caller? I don't know, and I don't care.Yes, play calling matters, but play calling success comes down to the Jimmies and the Joes.
11 hours ago11 hr No. 9 hours ago, Jon Joseph said:Gat, how about your man, Steve Spurrier? OK, it was back in the 1990s and not in the 21st century, but Spurrier won many games, including the year of the messenger QB.Even more back, back, back, Paul Brown, who called the plays using a messenger guard.Lane Kiffin, although I think most of the plays are whispered in his ear by Charlie Weis, Jr. And also as you noted, Sark. Sark does not have a Natty, but he has many wins.Wherever he coached, the Pirate, Mike Leach, called the plays.And back in the dark ages, when I played, and through most of the 20th century, the QB on the field of play called the plays following the game plan crafted by his coach, including Jim Plunkett and many other successful QBs.And the best, experienced college QBs playing for successful programs, are allowed to audible. I don't think the person calling the plays matters more than the players executing the play calls.Jedd Fisch has called plays for college programs, including Michigan, and professional programs. I don't believe Fisch's calling plays is a detriment to his program. Is there a better Husky play caller? I don't know, and I don't care.Yes, play calling matters, but play calling success comes down to the Jimmies and the Joes.I get what you're saying Jon. There are a select few that can do that, but it's just such a chore imo. Even a guy like Venables, who did it successfully this past year, he only did so because they struck out on hiring Jim Knowles. I just think the head coach needs to oversee the entire game, with his full attention.I think there's just too much on the plate of guys these days. Steve didn't have to worry about player retention, plus the support staffs were all dudes just happy to be Grad Associates. Now you have run coordinators, QB mental health practitioners, and assistant to assistant coordinators. Steve and Urban actually spoke on this a few weeks ago on Gator Digest. Steve told Urban how much his assistants were making, and Urban then talked about how much things have changed since his days to today.Hitting closer to home is something Chip Kelly said two years ago about leaving UCLA as the head coach, to just be an offensive play caller at Ohio State. He spoke about the major differences between his time at Oregon and coming back to college about six years later.It can be done, but there's a reason why Saban never tried it, why Kirby doesn't do it, why Day hired an ex NFL coach a year after letting an inexperienced WR coach try it out after losing Chip Kelly. Heck Curt Cignetti has spoken about having coordinators he has one hundred percent trust in. It gives him time to evaluate more game tape each week.
5 hours ago5 hr Moderator No. 5 hours ago, GatOrlando said:I get what you're saying Jon. There are a select few that can do that, but it's just such a chore imo. Even a guy like Venables, who did it successfully this past year, he only did so because they struck out on hiring Jim Knowles. I just think the head coach needs to oversee the entire game, with his full attention.I think there's just too much on the plate of guys these days. Steve didn't have to worry about player retention, plus the support staffs were all dudes just happy to be Grad Associates. Now you have run coordinators, QB mental health practitioners, and assistant to assistant coordinators.Steve and Urban actually spoke on this a few weeks ago on Gator Digest. Steve told Urban how much his assistants were making, and Urban then talked about how much things have changed since his days to today.Hitting closer to home is something Chip Kelly said two years ago about leaving UCLA as the head coach, to just be an offensive play caller at Ohio State. He spoke about the major differences between his time at Oregon and coming back to college about six years later.It can be done, but there's a reason why Saban never tried it, why Kirby doesn't do it, why Day hired an ex NFL coach a year after letting an inexperienced WR coach try it out after losing Chip Kelly. Heck Curt Cignetti has spoken about having coordinators he has one hundred percent trust in. It gives him time to evaluate more game tape each week.Spot on, Gat, thanks. Is it better to invest millions of dollars in a play-caller or in picking the portal?Ohio State won a title with a $6 million Chip. But Chip and the O no-showed in a close home game win vs. Nebraska and disappeared in the loss to Michigan, and only reached its potential when the players told Day to open things up. (Where were these guys before Brutus was blown away by the Hurricanes in the Cotton Bowl?)Again, I agree with all of your points, but how big is the football budget in Seattle? I imagine it's millions of dollars less than the budget in Columbus?I hope Jon Sumrall is the answer for your Gators. The schedule is not easy by any means. Whoever calls the plays for UF will not have to be all that wise to defeat the FAU Owls, or get over the Campbell Camels' hump, but then?At Auburn, Ole Miss, at Mizzou, South Carolina, and at Texas. Whew! After a needed week off, it's on to the Cocktail Party versus UGA, followed by Oklahoma, before playing Will Stein and Kentucky in Lexington, then Vanderbilt, and at FSU. Welcome to the SEC, Mr. Sumrall, and have a really nice day. 😁
1 hour ago1 hr No. 3 hours ago, Jon Joseph said:Spot on, Gat, thanks.Is it better to invest millions of dollars in a play-caller or in picking the portal?Ohio State won a title with a $6 million Chip. But Chip and the O no-showed in a close home game win vs. Nebraska and disappeared in the loss to Michigan, and only reached its potential when the players told Day to open things up. (Where were these guys before Brutus was blown away by the Hurricanes in the Cotton Bowl?)Again, I agree with all of your points, but how big is the football budget in Seattle? I imagine it's millions of dollars less than the budget in Columbus?I hope Jon Sumrall is the answer for your Gators. The schedule is not easy by any means. Whoever calls the plays for UF will not have to be all that wise to defeat the FAU Owls, or get over the Campbell Camels' hump, but then?At Auburn, Ole Miss, at Mizzou, South Carolina, and at Texas. Whew!After a needed week off, it's on to the Cocktail Party versus UGA, followed by Oklahoma, before playing Will Stein and Kentucky in Lexington, then Vanderbilt, and at FSU.Welcome to the SEC, Mr. Sumrall, and have a really nice day. 😁Great points Jon. I see where you're coming at, I really do. Players are the most important thing. If you don't have a Jimmy that can throw the ball, or Joe that can make that goalline stop in the fourth. You could have the maestro of play callers, and it would be the same as having Larry, Curly Joe, and Moe.But.......If you're renovating your house, and you have to decide between fixing the leaky roof, or the faulty wiring. You need to get more money. Of course housing safety codes are more important than football team costs, but in both instances you need to address everything.If Washington is able to find someone who is able to pay Demond Williams five million a year, and they were willing to pay to keep Deboer. I believe they can find the money to find a guy to oversee calling half of a ballgame, and giving the head coach more time to oversee everything. I think it's a Jedd Fisch decision, just like it was a Billy Napier decision. Napier brought in the largest support staff in the SEC, but he never wanted to give up any say in the offense, and it showed. Especially with the development of any quarterback, DJ Lagway regressed from his true freshman year to his sophomore season.The defense actually went from a weakness to a strength. But Billy wouldn't ever entertain changing things up. His offense worked in the Sun Belt, and it was going to work in the SEC.Meanwhile, there were several major issues not being addressed like the Strength and conditioning, offensive line, and QB coach. Jon Sumrall has spoken candidly about the glaring issues he saw when he first came on board. Oddly enough, he said the parking lot was one of the nicest he's seen.If you want further proof that maybe even Napier learned a lesson. In his introductory press conference as the new JMU head coach, he quickly stated how he was going to be handing off play calling duties at JMU.To me, it's not a monetary issue. Especially at these places in the B1G or SEC. It's about what the head coach feels comfortable with.If Jedd Fisch wanted to, he could find a guy. But he probably thinks there isn't somebody who can do the job better than himself.
1 hour ago1 hr Moderator No. 12 minutes ago, GatOrlando said:Great points Jon. I see where you're coming at, I really do. Players are the most important thing. If you don't have a Jimmy that can throw the ball, or Joe that can make that goalline stop in the fourth. You could have the maestro of play callers, and it would be the same as having Larry, Curly Joe, and Moe.But.......If you're renovating your house, and you have to decide between fixing the leaky roof, or the faulty wiring. You need to get more money. Of course housing safety codes are more important than football team costs, but in both instances you need to address everything.If Washington is able to find someone who is able to pay Demond Williams five million a year, and they were willing to pay to keep Deboer. I believe they can find the money to find a guy to oversee calling half of a ballgame, and giving the head coach more time to oversee everything.I think it's a Jedd Fisch decision, just like it was a Billy Napier decision. Napier brought in the largest support staff in the SEC, but he never wanted to give up any say in the offense, and it showed. Especially with the development of any quarterback, DJ Lagway regressed from his true freshman year to his sophomore season.The defense actually went from a weakness to a strength. But Billy wouldn't ever entertain changing things up. His offense worked in the Sun Belt, and it was going to work in the SEC.Meanwhile, there were several major issues not being addressed like the Strength and conditioning, offensive line, and QB coach. Jon Sumrall has spoken candidly about the glaring issues he saw when he first came on board. Oddly enough, he said the parking lot was one of the nicest he's seen.If you want further proof that maybe even Napier learned a lesson. In his introductory press conference as the new JMU head coach, he quickly stated how he was going to be handing off play calling duties at JMU.To me, it's not a monetary issue. Especially at these places in the B1G or SEC. It's about what the head coach feels comfortable with.If Jedd Fisch wanted to, he could find a guy. But he probably thinks there isn't somebody who can do the job better than himself.You've got a Lot to be proud of 😁and another strong Men's basketball team that could go back-to-back.
58 minutes ago58 min No. 19 minutes ago, Jon Joseph said:You've got a Lot to be proud of 😁and another strong Men's basketball team that could go back-to-back.It's always a good day when Calipari loses by thirty four points🤣.
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