Rufus No. 1 Share Posted March 23, 2023 This is a series of articles on ESPN 960. I’m not sure how many will be written, but here are the ones posted so far: Part 1 - Why the PAC10 is Struggling to Make a Media Deal - ESPN 960 Sports ESPN960SPORTS.COM BY JEFF FULLER (BAMA COUG) & KRINDORR Link to Part 2 Link to Part 2A “We have better schools, better... Part 2 - Why the PAC10 is Struggling to Make a Media Deal: Part 2–How Strong Are PAC12 “Brands” & Fan Bases? - ESPN 960 Sports ESPN960SPORTS.COM This article is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Use the code ESPN960 when you sign up to get your... Part 2A - Why the PAC10 is Struggling to Make a Media Deal: Part 2a–Comparing Silver & Altimore’s Fan base rankings - ESPN 960 Sports ESPN960SPORTS.COM This article is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Use the code ESPN960 when you sign up to get your... Part 3 - Why the PAC10 is Struggling to Make a Media Deal: Part 3 – Television Viewership - ESPN 960 Sports ESPN960SPORTS.COM Why the PAC10 is Struggling to Make a Media Deal: Part 3 – Television Viewership. For all the reasonable and... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 2 Share Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 10:27 AM, Rufus said: This is a series of articles on ESPN 960. I’m not sure how many will be written, but here are the ones posted so far: Part 1 - Why the PAC10 is Struggling to Make a Media Deal - ESPN 960 Sports ESPN960SPORTS.COM BY JEFF FULLER (BAMA COUG) & KRINDORR Link to Part 2 Link to Part 2A “We have better schools, better... Part 2 - Why the PAC10 is Struggling to Make a Media Deal: Part 2–How Strong Are PAC12 “Brands” & Fan Bases? - ESPN 960 Sports ESPN960SPORTS.COM This article is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Use the code ESPN960 when you sign up to get your... Part 2A - Why the PAC10 is Struggling to Make a Media Deal: Part 2a–Comparing Silver & Altimore’s Fan base rankings - ESPN 960 Sports ESPN960SPORTS.COM This article is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Use the code ESPN960 when you sign up to get your... Part 3 - Why the PAC10 is Struggling to Make a Media Deal: Part 3 – Television Viewership - ESPN 960 Sports ESPN960SPORTS.COM Why the PAC10 is Struggling to Make a Media Deal: Part 3 – Television Viewership. For all the reasonable and... Thanks for the 3rd-party update; the only updates on the new media deal are those of unsourced 3rd parties. The short answer; No LA market and FOX not competing for media rights with ESPN. Being ungenerous, GK was clueless regarding FOX 'stealing' the LA schools, and timing-wise, he was outfoxed by the B12 moving early to the marketplace. Plus the economy has taken a dip including ESPN's parent company losing value and not wanting to spend extravagantly on sports broadcasts. And having to deal with a functionally insolvent network and with streaming entities that have not broadcast college sports events. A perfect storm for the Pac-10. We heard crickets from yesterday's 'board meeting' of the Pac-10 presidents but I still have hope the Pac-10 will make a deal that is acceptable to all 10 schools. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDuck Moderator No. 3 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Experts say Pac-12 really could have used BYU when it comes to media rights negotiations The Athletic’s Stewart Mandel, Forbes’ Jim Williams sound off on the value of BYU in TV negotiations, expansion When the Big 12 added BYU, it may have made all the difference in the muddled world of college football media negotiations we have been witnessing with the Pac-12 the past nine months. The Pac-12 is losing UCLA and USC and considering expanding to help in negotiations with Apple, Amazon and other potential media partners. The 10 remaining teams have vowed solidarity. Last week presidents at Utah, Arizona and Arizona State made positive public declarations of hope that all will be just fine and negotiations will conclude very soon. The Pac-12 presidents passed on adding BYU eons ago and repeated that in 2010 when Texas and Oklahoma turned down invitations that ultimately went to Utah and Colorado. It became very clear in the past two decades that the Pac-12 did not want to include a religious institution like BYU, declaring “cultural fit” and “research institution” qualifications in its exclusivity decisions. But from a purely athletic and football brand perspective, many experts are now declaring that was a shortsighted move by the “Conference of Champions.” One that is costing them now. Interesting take if we had added BYU. As we all know, It's the would-of, could-of, should-of syndrome of the Pac-12's shortsightedness, one of many. The Pac-12, at this point, is trying to find a way to get the best deal possible. Hopefully with a short contract. If it seems best to add SDSU and SMU (religious institution) to the Pac-12, in 5 years time could boost the conference in their growth. SMU is financially very well endowed. Next contract down the road could find more realignment with Oregon and Washington going to the BIG, or Pac-12 conference grows stronger. Either way we need to get through the next 5 years. Experts say Pac-12 really could have used BYU when it comes to media rights negotiations WWW.DESERET.COM The Athletic’s Stewart Mandel, Forbes’ Jim Williams sound off on value of BYU in media rights negotiations. Did Pac-12 make mistake not considering it for expansion years ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirklandduck Moderator No. 4 Share Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 10:02 AM, Jon Joseph said: Thanks for the 3rd-party update; the only updates on the new media deal are those of unsourced 3rd parties. The short answer; No LA market and FOX not competing for media rights with ESPN. Being ungenerous, GK was clueless regarding FOX 'stealing' the LA schools, and timing-wise, he was outfoxed by the B12 moving early to the marketplace. Plus the economy has taken a dip including ESPN's parent company losing value and not wanting to spend extravagantly on sports broadcasts. And having to deal with a functionally insolvent network and with streaming entities that have not broadcast college sports events. A perfect storm for the Pac-10. We heard crickets from yesterday's 'board meeting' of the Pac-10 presidents but I still have hope the Pac-10 will make a deal that is acceptable to all 10 schools. I also posted this in another thread but it sounds like FOX is now back in negotiations in some kind of capacity. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 5 Share Posted March 23, 2023 FWIW, SMU officially severed ties with the Methodist church 3 years ago. Travel? CU has to travel farther to Seattle than it would have to travel to Dallas. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandaian No. 6 Share Posted March 23, 2023 BYU doesn't allow its athletes to play sports on Sunday. Baseball and Softball are 2 main sports that routinely play on Sunday. I'm surprised the Big 12 are OK with altering their entire sport schedule around 1 school. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckhart No. 7 Share Posted March 25, 2023 The longer this goes on the less optimistic I am about even coming close to the B12 deal. Hope something will come together soon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 8 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Get San Diego State into the conference ASAP. We need the dues! Great win for the Aztecs taking down top-seeded Alabama in Louisville. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDuck Moderator No. 9 Share Posted March 25, 2023 The grass isn't always greener: Why the remaining Pac-12 schools should stick together The grass isn't always greener: Why the remaining Pac-12 schools should stick together SPORTS.YAHOO.COM The Big 12 may come calling, but Pac-12 schools would be wise to stay put. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRunningDuck No. 10 Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 10:44 AM, NJDuck said: Experts say Pac-12 really could have used BYU when it comes to media rights negotiations The Athletic’s Stewart Mandel, Forbes’ Jim Williams sound off on the value of BYU in TV negotiations, expansion When the Big 12 added BYU, it may have made all the difference in the muddled world of college football media negotiations we have been witnessing with the Pac-12 the past nine months. The Pac-12 is losing UCLA and USC and considering expanding to help in negotiations with Apple, Amazon and other potential media partners. The 10 remaining teams have vowed solidarity. Last week presidents at Utah, Arizona and Arizona State made positive public declarations of hope that all will be just fine and negotiations will conclude very soon. The Pac-12 presidents passed on adding BYU eons ago and repeated that in 2010 when Texas and Oklahoma turned down invitations that ultimately went to Utah and Colorado. It became very clear in the past two decades that the Pac-12 did not want to include a religious institution like BYU, declaring “cultural fit” and “research institution” qualifications in its exclusivity decisions. But from a purely athletic and football brand perspective, many experts are now declaring that was a shortsighted move by the “Conference of Champions.” One that is costing them now. Interesting take if we had added BYU. As we all know, It's the would-of, could-of, should-of syndrome of the Pac-12's shortsightedness, one of many. The Pac-12, at this point, is trying to find a way to get the best deal possible. Hopefully with a short contract. If it seems best to add SDSU and SMU (religious institution) to the Pac-12, in 5 years time could boost the conference in their growth. SMU is financially very well endowed. Next contract down the road could find more realignment with Oregon and Washington going to the BIG, or Pac-12 conference grows stronger. Either way we need to get through the next 5 years. Experts say Pac-12 really could have used BYU when it comes to media rights negotiations WWW.DESERET.COM The Athletic’s Stewart Mandel, Forbes’ Jim Williams sound off on value of BYU in media rights negotiations. Did Pac-12 make mistake not considering it for expansion years ago? It's not as if BYU would have been a solid addition. How many times have they switched their affilation in the past 40 years? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 11 Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 11:15 AM, TheRunningDuck said: It's not as if BYU would have been a solid addition. How many times have they switched their affilation in the past 40 years? It's off-season so let the nonsense flow. I thought a guy like Stewart Mandel knew better. He is moving toward Dennis Dodd territory. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus Author No. 12 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Part 4 is out - Why the PAC10 is Struggling to Make a Media Deal: Part 4–How Strong Are PAC12 TV Markets? - ESPN 960 Sports ESPN960SPORTS.COM This article is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Use the code ESPN960 when you sign up to get your... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
