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David Marsh
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On 6/28/2025 at 10:24 AM, Charles Fischer said:
Players in the NFL...very few can get commercial contracts;
do you see any ads with NFL tight ends? Almost none, and
certainly not a rookie.
None that aren't name Gronk... And he's retired now.
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We are quickly approaching the time where Oregon needs to get more aggressive with the NIL.
I get their strategy.. or what seems to be their strategy but it's approaching go time for Oregon to take some of these recruits.
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On 6/27/2025 at 10:17 AM, DC Featherbutt said:
I am looking forward to seeing the football attendance for oac when a home slate includes Utah State and Texas State. The only conference draws may be Boise and Fresno. I predict a very New Mexico-like** late season attendance number of sub 20K for turds like TSU and USU. CSU not much better.
Unless they're winning! In which attendance might be good because winning is still fun.
And if they're winning they can dream of making the playoff... only to be outraged when they're snubbed.
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On 6/27/2025 at 10:17 AM, Jon Joseph said:
$ 7 to $ 10 Million a Year!
It Just Means Less!
I could see them getting 12 million if they embrace that 7pm time slot and play hardball with it. I could see ESPN and Fox being ok with that kind of payout if they get that time slot filled regularly.
But I DOUBT the Scrap-12 will consider embracing the 7pm time slot and they will probably all see themselves worth 20mil and prime time slots. They are still pushing this notion that they are a Power Conference but they are G6. If they were smart they'd leverage their west coast time slot to their advantage.
But if they were smart they would have used that Pac-12 war-chest they stole and bought their way into the Big 12.
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On 6/25/2025 at 3:40 PM, 30Duck said:
"Beaver takes the snap, fakes the pitch and strolls into the endzone, touchdown Beaver, Ducks piling it on" Not confusing at all.
... With a victory over the Beavers!!!!
Assuming we play them again.
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On 6/24/2025 at 8:10 PM, Charles Fischer said:
David Marsh 165 articles written
And my family thanks you... Because for each article I have written, and commented on, they haven't had to listen to the ramblings of a mad (in the British sense) Ducks fan... You all get those instead.
And 166 is right around the corner.
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On 6/25/2025 at 2:05 AM, FishDuck Article said:
night the Titanic went down.
Fun Titanic fact.... if the Titanic just hit the ice berg head on it would have been absolutely fine.
The second in command would have lost his job if he hit the ice berg head on which is why he tried to dodge it and we all know how that turned out.
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On 6/24/2025 at 10:45 AM, Charles Fischer said:
This. I was wondering why we were wasting time on him? Even if he committed to Oregon and joined us in three years--he would not be ready for games until two years later, as that is assumed at Oregon?
So why were we wasting time recruiting a QB who will not be helpful until 2030? (Especially when we can get a great portal QB every year?)
Just another layer of depth. I don't think they were counting on him for some time but knowing they had someone as another layer of depth was worth recruiting I suppose.
There is also something to be said for just having more mature players.
But I always found it highly unlikely Oregon was going to win this recruiting battle once BYU seemed to throw more money at him.
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On 6/23/2025 at 1:23 PM, GeotechDuck said:
I like the strategy, but what happens when a school like ATM, USC, or osu2 does both? They throw money at HS kids AND throw money to the transfer portal.
It comes down to the coordinators, the HC, and locker room chemistry and player leadership.
FSU threw a ton of money at the portal for last year's team. Everyone (pundits) was raving how in 2024-5 FSU was in contention to win it all in rather dominant fashion.
Fast-forward to the season and it turns out they didn't have a team and the wheels came off in week zero and it never recovered.
Ohio State has been throwing money but has been losing to Michigan quite consistently. They had 2 losses last year! They lucked out with an expanded playoff and had a chance of redemption and credit to them they seized it. But in any previous year they wouldn't have made the playoff.
Watching Ohio State this year is going to be an interesting tell as to how productive this practice is year after year.
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I do believe this recruiting cycle is indicative of many programs NIL programs waking up and realizing they have money they can throw at players.
Washington has loads of alumni with money and the same goes for USC. Both seem to be throwing money at recruits because they discovered they could do that.
So they are really working with a 2022 framework of NIL and it is disrupting the whole system.
Additionally this is year 4 of NIL and all these recruits in the 2026 cycle have been watching NIL pay out since 8th grade and they all want their turn at the big paycheck. And many believe they are worth more than they are... But right now there are plenty of programs happy to pay them out for the recruiting win.
And interesting convergence of circumstance.
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I saw a few comments on another site saying he was reclassifying as well. But I haven't been able to follow that up anywhere.
But this one feels like it's a closer to home and a bigger payout was at play. It feels like Oregon never really had either parent fully recruited and both were wanting either more money (dad presumably) or closer to home (mom).
This recruiting cycle has really become a bidding war. Yes, previous cycles had this aspect about it but this one really feels like players are going wherever the largest payout is coming from.
I think Oregon will bring in a fine class but less flashy than it could have been with some of this crazy spending.
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On 6/22/2025 at 8:47 AM, Jon Joseph said:
SP+ Pac 8 Rankings - Texas State has to move up 60 spots to be ranked alongside Boise State.
SP+ ranks 136 teams in its 2025 preseason rankings.
33. Boise State
73. Oregon State
82. Washington State
89. Fresno State
93. Texas State
97. Colorado State
102. San Diego State
119. Utah State
That's a lot of mis-states, no?
I could not find a ranking for GONZO.
Not a great spot for a conference when your best team is in the 30s and your second best is in the 70s.
Boise should be happy with this arrangement.
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I guess that's different. I mean if Penn State did this the fan base would lose their freaking minds. But beige isn't a color that sparks any sort of inspiration.
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UNC has a football team???
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This had to come at some point for sure.
This case I think is one of the more blant instances of roster tampering.
The article was unclear but kinda implied by "able to compete" is Lucas a preferred walk on or is he on scholarship at Miami. It doesn't really matter in truth because walk ons can be paid enough that they are effectively on scholarship these days anyways.
I could see that getting thrown into the case though if that is what happened. He left Wisconsin and went to Miami and became a walk on for their football team... Who could have seen that coming???
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The whole system of Oregon athletics is working great right now. I'd say basketball might need some coaching changes in the near-ish future if things don't improve for men's and women's basketball. But hard to argue with results when Oregon led the B1G in conference championships in year one by a wide margin.
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Much needed after the string of losses.
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On 6/19/2025 at 2:31 PM, Charles Fischer said:
So, after spending a Saturday watching Big Ten football games… I wanna tune into the CW Network to watch Colorado State versus Texas State in the evening?
Right.
If you're desperate for some football still and on the west coast. You by default meet one of those criteria Charles!
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On 6/19/2025 at 12:24 PM, DanLduck said:
Now the Pac (St)eight is the old Mt West, only with more parity. I see them all beating up on each other and none of them making a playoff, even at 16 teams!
The new Pac is the best of the old mountain West which absolutely means they will all consume each other regularly. Probably fun for viewers (if you actually want to watch those teams) but not great for their playoff prospects for sure.
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It sounded like the NIL offer was greater from TAMU than Oregon on this one. He apparently is a life long Ducks fan but Oregon wasn't going to match the offer from what I've read.
But this might be one we wait and see on come December.
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On 6/19/2025 at 11:53 AM, Charles Fischer said:
1) this is probably a short-term strategy until the underclassmen develop more
I think it might be a short term strategy as well ... But for an additional reason.
I think it might be a better use of resources until NIL deals for prep recruits calm down.
This cycle some of the "sleeping giants" have woken up and discovered they do have money and can buy recruits and as a result we are seeing some outrageous prices.
And the recruits themselves are all big shots in their relatively small fish ponds and many think they are worth more than they actually are.
All this makes for a highly unstable recruiting environment at the high school level. Whereas, the portal is relatively more stable ... In an odd way because there are some rules and regulations around the portal and the portal window is so short.
The bidding wars are short, intense and resolved in about a month. Whereas the high school recruits get YEARS to haggle.
But I also agree that a portal heavy recruitment strategy has so far failed which is why Oregon has always done a hybrid but this year it feels like there is a greater need to rely on the portal than years past.
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What does that even mean?
Boise State had some shocking major bowl wins but they were never a contender for a national championship and will probably never be.
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On 6/19/2025 at 9:49 AM, 30Duck said:
NIL and the portal have made roster stability archaic,
Only to those who don't understand how to maintain a stable roster. Oregon rarely loses any players to the portal they want. The NIL money is going to the roster and to the players who stay and produce.
Much of the Oregon model seems to be come to Oregon and you'll get a fair deal. You'll develop and if you're good enough you'll get paid more and be ready for the NFL.
Not a great pitch for those who want to be paid NOW. Which is what USC and others are using.
However, USC did lose by far their best offensive lineman to the portal (to Oregon). So they obviously aren't doing a good job maintaining their roster. They lost other prices of their production as well.
One thing has remained true even in the portal and NIL era. The rosters with the oldest players who have developed in the program the longest are still the ones winning the national titles.
Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia, Georgia are the last four... All had senior heavy rosters who were in the program for a long time. Sure there were some important transfers but they supplemented the team and were often veterans themselves.
USC can bring in all the No. 1 classes they want but they won't win anything if they can't develop and hold onto them.
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Oregon State can be a feeder program for the Ducks. I'm cool with that.
I'm not saying Stars are everything, but Oregon is really recruiting at the absolute top end of things right now. Wheaton the younger just isn't on that list. And frankly I'm not sure Wheaton the elder would have made the cut for this staff. But without Wheaton the elder we wouldn't have this staff today.
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Could Any Game This Season Break Autzen Attendance Record Set Last Year VS Ohio State?
in Our Beloved Ducks
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Theoretically... Yes...
In reality... No.
If the Beavers were better then maybe the prospect of the last civil war could draw more of a crowd.
But that rivalry feels more dead than alive.
Washington is an away game.
USC is a maybe if both teams are undefeated but and it's a big BUT that game is at almost the end of the season and the likelihood of USC being undefeated by that point is highly unlikely.