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David Marsh
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On 5/7/2024 at 5:28 PM, Dr Hilarius said:
Ole Miss is Kiffin’s new Last Chance U.
It _might_ be admirable but is just as likely to be sketch.
Kiffin needs to make the playoff this year. If he manages to do that then I think he'll find himself quite secure.
In order for Ole Miss to rise he is going to need Bama to fall flat on its face under DeBoer.
I think Kiffin v Sark will be amusing.
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On 5/7/2024 at 2:20 PM, woundedknees said:
The teams ranked higher in the portal recruiting are mostly getting extra credit for signing a few more (often lower ranked) transfers...
Colorado certainly.... They are signing over 30 players in the portal and they have lost slightly more to the portal.
Ole Miss has done fantastic in the portal but their prep recruiting tends not to break into the top 10. I think part of that has to do with being overshadowed by Bama and Georgia in the SEC foot print and if a recruit doesn't want to be in the SEC then they're going somewhere else entirely.
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On 5/7/2024 at 1:20 PM, Jon Joseph said:
Dan had to turn the job down before DeBoer was offered. The same with Mike Elko at A+M. This helps to cement your case for Dan being the Recruiting Man.
Bama and TAMU will never admit it but Dan was their top choice or certainly top 3.
From what I have read from a few sources is that Lanning as a clause in his contract that in order to just talk to him the program wanting to talk to Lanning would need to pay UO a hefty sum. I heard it's around 20 million which would be insane.
So Bama will say that they weren't interested or he wasn't offered the job. Which would be true because I don't think Lanning was ever an option because just getting Lanning would cost upwards of 40 mil potentially and then paying him more to get him away from Oregon.
Lanning was never an option for either which is delightful as Duck fans.
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On 5/7/2024 at 8:22 AM, Charles Fischer said:
The best recruiter is a tall order, considering what is occurring around the nation at the nation's elite programs. Yet you make a great case, and adding the retention element is crucial, as anyone can check Colorado as the "prime" example. They brought in a ton of transfers, and the revolving door continues, with the 'Buffs losing many players they wished would stay.
Another element to this is his astounding rate of success with who transfer in; very, very few portal players have not worked out for Oregon which points to amazing research and vetting by the staff and in the player visits.
Lanning does not have a juggernaut like Alabama, Georgia or Ohio State....yet. But he is succeeding at a level well above his weight class, and it has many of us fans shaking our heads at all the good fortune. The real test is if you take Division Street and all of Oregon's resources and plug in a different coach? You do not get the same results. Lanning is exceptional!
Come to Oregon!
The Alabama rankings this year are difficult to actually put together.
The prep class is Saban's so it's fantastic and the tender portal is mostly DeBoer and it's good in terms of its ranking but it's almost all Washington players! That's not recruiting as much as roster retention in this case.
Also Bama got credit for landing Proctor from the portal but he left Bama in the winter and came back in the spring. He didn't really leave.
I wanted to throw in stuff about Georgia and Colorado because the two are polar opposites in how they function. Colorado is a revolving door with transfers and is looking to win games exclusively through the portal.
Georgia loses some talent to the portal and usually gets a little bit but they are pretty exclusively prep recruits
I think if you asked Lanning he'd like to me more like Georgia and use the portal less but I'm not sure Oregon is ever going to be that because of our geography.
Oregon is isolated from all the biggest hot beds of recruitment, the closest being southern California which is close but not Oregon's backyard. Certainly not within reasonable driving distance.
So I do believe Oregon will need to use the portal to substitute for this geographic disadvantage.
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This is some big time recruiting.
And I have a doozy of an article coming out tomorrow just about Lanning's recruiting ability so far.
So take a look on the main site for that to drop tomorrow morning.
Yes... I am shamelessly self promoting here.
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Jordan Burch I'd argue made a major leap towards the end of the year. He was absolutely dominant against teams down the stretch and havoc plays don't always get stats.
Burch went down in the first quarter of the Pac-12 championship game and never returned. He was playing so well at this point in the season I feel he was worth at least 3 points if he stayed in the field of not 6.
I like the article Alex.
Though I'd say the great position of need is depth and having back ups. Where Oregon was really lacking last year was the secondary. He got a bunch of banged up corners and safeties and we didn't have enough experienced players back there for the two games we needed it, against Washington.
In the first game against Washington we lost both Jahlil Florence and Khyree Jackson and were forced to play back ups. That's probably the difference down the stretch of that game.
And in the Pac-12 championship game Florence was already out for the season and the Ducks clearly needed some help there.
When it comes to edges... I think there are some great prospects the Ducks have in the roster and now we need them to step up in a big way.
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On 5/6/2024 at 8:00 AM, kirklandduck said:
USC's defensive staff is of course better than the previous one (there was no where else to go but up). But the state of their defensive roster is so bad it's going to take multiple seasons to fix it....assuming LR still has a job by then since fan patience will wear thin if he continues having mediocre 7-8 win seasons.
And just because a HC hires coordinators well doesn't mean the on field product changes.
Cristobal hired some great coaches on paper but they never seemed to live up to their pedigrees. Moorehead's offense should have been high flying and high scoring and it was neither. DeRuyter has a track record to fielding solid defenses and with the Ducks his defense was average.
So we'll have to wait and see on if Riley actually follows through. Hopefully he doesn't.... It's more fun that way.
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On 5/5/2024 at 1:57 PM, JabbaNoBargain said:
Not to split hairs, but I do believe that’s Mel Brooks
I saw you reposted.
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On 5/5/2024 at 3:13 PM, JabbaNoBargain said:
I love how they think LR is undeniably the best active coach at any level of football. There is a chance, just saying, that he’s not. Then again, compared to everyone they’ve had post PC I can see why they’d be confused.
And I'll just drop this article here.
Lincoln Riley is a Perfect Fit for USC and That’s Their Problem |...
FISHDUCK.COM
It has been absolutely delightful as Duck fans to watch USC’s problems, not only this year but over more than a decade at this point. For the record…I'm starting to realize just how many articles I've written evaluating USC's short comings.
I think I may be enjoying their failure too much.
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On 5/5/2024 at 2:58 PM, DanLduck said:
Something SC fans are forgetting, tax rates in CA are much, much higher than in OR.
Their NIL would have to offer at least 35-50% more for same $$.
Then there's OR with a better rated D...
better rated O-line.
Maybe players just want better coaching.
Just sayin.
I'm not sure many are doing the math on the tax rates.
But the three keys of recruitment right now are relationships, NFL development and NIL.
Lanning and company are amazing at relationship building. You hear every single recruit who visits Oregon say it feels like family and they feel they belong, whether or not they choose the Ducks. This also encompasses things like the culture and play time.
NFL preparation is is growing with every year and got a big boost with this last draft. Getting more into the draft and earlier rounds will only make this better.
Then there is the NIL component of throwing money at players. These NIL prices vary depending on the previous two.
A great example is looking at Saban at Alabama where Bama's NIL payouts were considered to be lower because the development to the NFL was so high that just getting to Bama increased a players chances of reaching the next level.
Division Street is giving competitive NIL rates frim everything I've heard but they aren't just throwing money at players that USC fans think is happening.
It is funny to watch them implode though.
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On 5/5/2024 at 1:35 PM, NJDuck said:
USC's only hope was to keep Oregon out of the Big 10. Since that didn't happen,
their misery continues with tears of anguish. 
Additionally they opened the gates for Oregon to get stronger by their decision to leave the PAC and kill it at that point.
In the end Oregon was too valuable to not grab before the West Coast conference fell apart.
Oregon is benefitting more from being in the B1G than SC. Oregon's recruiting foot print and influence has expanded but USC's has not.
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On 5/4/2024 at 12:14 PM, Jon Joseph said:
With a 12-team playoff, does a team schedule up OOC, or schedule down? The same questions apply to the B1G as apply to the SEC but with nine conference games instead of eight the concerns are not on par.
SEC nonconference scheduling, like the conference schedule, is in flux
THEATHLETIC.COM
SEC teams' nonconference scheduling is in a holding pattern while they wait to see what the conference schedule format will be.I could see the battle between the Power 2 being about how many conference games are required and I can see the SEC giving ground and pushing their conference schedules to nine. But it will come at the cost of them being more able to schedule lesser opponents.
The reality is that outside of the Power 2 any OOC games will be with effectively G5 teams. The Big 12 and ACC are G5+ at this point.
And lets be honest with ourselves as Duck fans, I know many are upset about scheduling Oregon State and maintaining a home and home with them as if it were a conference game but the reality is that they will soon be G5 status in terms of their roster. They may have already fallen there now. Maintaining the Civil War right now gives the illusion of Oregon scheduling a non-conference game with a Power 5 program but the reality is that the Beavs won't have that power for much longer.
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On 5/5/2024 at 9:17 AM, Jon Joseph said:
SC has supposedly upped its NIL game, but the Trojan's House of Victory, (YUCK, YUCK!) collective cannot carry Division Street's jock. Uncle Phil is far from the only contributor to Division Street.
Jon, you're just giving me so many places to link my past articles.
It’s Time to Take a Deep Breath - Oregon is Going to Be Fine |...
FISHDUCK.COM
We are back in the midst of conference realignment with Colorado bolting for a home in the Big-12 and...This was when there was still hope the PAC might survive and Oregon was considering staying for the rebuild. Oregon has some big time donors that are never going to let Oregon fall behind and you're right it's not just Knight.
It wasn't Knight who gave Lanning his big contract raise but the Ballmers. They were also the ones who bought the new Portland campus for UO as well.
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On 5/4/2024 at 3:07 PM, NJDuck said:
We can be honest about Oregon's victories over USC
Phil Knight’s money is huge for Oregon, but it’s not the whole story
TROJANSWIRE.USATODAY.COM
Money might truly be the main driver of Oregon’s transfer portal wins over USC. It isn’t the only factor, though.This quote has me confused and I read it like 15 times.
"It’s clear that Harmon thought long and hard about his decision. Some might speculate that Oregon increased the value of the bag at the last moment, and that USC wasn’t willing to pay as much. Maybe that’s true, but we don’t know that. We can say that Harmon weighed his choice and didn’t make it quickly or easily. This obviously means Eric Henderson and USC offered something compelling, something worth considering. NFL-level development mattered in all of this. It might simply not have been the first — or only — factor."
In particular the last sentence....
Are they saying that USC was going to provide better NFL development than Oregon?
Because of that's what they're saying than that is some major arrogance. Especially when you look at the record of Riley and his defenses.
And Riley still has his past defenses hanging around his coaching reputation even though he vowed to make defense come first. He hasn't shown he has done that yet. Meanwhile, Lanning is has shown he is a great defensive mind and has the track record.
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On 5/4/2024 at 11:35 AM, Jon Joseph said:
At least 1 Trojan 'gets it.'
The inconvenient truth is that Oregon is closer to a natty than USC
SPORTS.YAHOO.COM
Derrick Harmon saw that Oregon is closer to a national championship than USC. It's hard to blame him.And they are late to this game of realization that USC is not Oregon's equal.
This article I wrote was ages ago back when Cristobal was still Oregon's head coach and I think Lanning has only pressed the advantage that was created by those who came before him.
USC Football Is NOT Oregon’s Equal | FishDuck
FISHDUCK.COM
Oregon and USC seem primed to be the top two schools in the Pac-12. Both have top ten recruiting classes...Sure NIL helps but the reality is that USC should have way more cash for this if they had alumni who cared. And I think the reality there is that the USC alumni believe they are entitled to the recruiting wins and having an eternally natty ready roster.
And that's not the reality.
USC fans are just as entitled as ever and that could be an advantage for us.
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On 5/3/2024 at 12:34 PM, Jon Joseph said:
Another thought I have had that pales beside your idea is to play a 'real' spring game vs. an FCS opponent that would count as the first game of the 12-game regular season. The little guy gets paid and no FCS teams are allowed to be on a Power 4 schedule.
Just to share that article with others who might be interested.
It’s Time for a Real Spring Game | FishDuck
FISHDUCK.COM
The Spring Game is just a glorified scrimmage. It’s something all fans know, but we still get excited about the prospect of seeing new Oregon players show off…-
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On 5/4/2024 at 10:15 AM, anyotherduck said:
Maybe there should be a "prima donna tax", where if a player sits out post season games they forfeit a % of NIL monies or something similar.
Those are 3rd party contracts and cannot be influenced by anyone in the NCAA or any university.
Though this could be addressed in two ways.
1. Short term and fastest way is that the bowl games payout NIL money to all those who participate as the bowl game gets use the players NIL to promote the bowl game. You could even make this more interesting by the bowl game paying out each team a base and then giving the winner more.
Some prize money might incetivize some to play instead of sitting out.
This is the carrot.
2. The stick of trying to restrict money for players who opt not to play cannot happen yet. It feels imminent that colleges will begin to pay their players directly and at that point colleges would probably have something set up regulating pay in their contracts.
Something like players receiver X for being active participants. You shouldn't punish the kid who doesn't see the field because they aren't good enough but they do everything asked of them. And a player opting out of a bowl game would exclude them from receiving pay for that period.
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These better be some pretty cool uniforms... They've been hyping the roll out more than I can remember for previous uniforms.
It feels we have been overdue for some cool new uniforms for awhile now. The last two were meh.
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Absolutely massive and mind blowing and big this is.
He probably takes the starting spot or worst case slides in as 1B.
The Ducks have loads of talent at nose tackle it feels like now. This has the makings of an amazing year.
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On 5/3/2024 at 11:11 AM, Jon Joseph said:
Complications that will result in a different playoff format come 2026.
And or the abolishment of conference championship games. Championships should go one of two ways.
1. Regular season champ based on record but this has the problem that conferences are so big now that this won't always give a satisfying result and may result in two conference champions if two teams don't play but have the same record.
2. Build the conference championship games into the actual playoff format. It would make for some unique bracket formats but could be interesting.
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On 5/3/2024 at 11:39 AM, Steven A said:
I think it was a total of 15 season tickets purchased from Ohio zip codes.
I'm hoping this is the case.
It's be nice to not have too much red in the stadium that game.
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The amount of talent brought in makes it easy to forget some of the big additions.
Great to hear that Gray is going to be a monster for us.
As for the rest of the freshman... It's always surprising to see who pops in the spring. But many more freshies will surge come fall camp when they get a lot more development time under them.
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I'm ok with auto bids for the playoff ... Not with seeding.
Should the Big 12 champion get an auto bid? Sure.
Should that team get first round bye just because they are the Big 12 champ? No.
The B1G and SEC going to dominate this format for better or worse. This current format is designed to appease as many parties possible.
It does increase access to the playoff but the reality is that access does not create true contenders. Just because the Big 12 has a bye doesn't mean they'll sniff at the championship.
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On 5/2/2024 at 2:38 PM, spartan2785 said:
I like a night game every once in a while, then again I don't have kids, so I understand why others hate them.
For tv watching I like 7pm games with kids. They're in bed not long after kickoff so the game gets my undivided attention.
At some point I'll probably end up going to a game with my daughters and I'll probably not want a 7pm kick off for that.
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Dan Lanning Is the Best Recruiter in the Country
in Our Beloved Ducks
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I didn't know their schedule.
And I forgot how lame the SEC is about their scheduling and actually enabling all their teams to play each other.
I do appreciate that in two years in the B1G everyone plays everyone. In four years every team gets at least one home game against the rest of the conference.