Jon Joseph

David, great points. I respectfully disagree, in part. Being a top-25 team and having a great SOS preseason and early in the season, is meaningless come the end of the season. There is no way the Committee will consider the Ducks win over CU, for example, as being a significant win. Preseason SOS is simply an exercise of looking at the teams on the schedule and how the teams finished last season. By Week 13, both SOS and SOR track what has happened this season. On December 3rd, when the Committee's ultimate ranking is released you will know how many wins, if any, a given team accomplished against the ultimate Ct. top 25. And also know whether a loss, like a 3-point loss in Seattle vs. 5-ranked UW, is a good loss. Yes, injuries will happen. And this can hurt a team's record down the road. The team you defeated in the season may not be as good at the season's end. Conversely, a team like Texas Tech, can claw back from 3-5, go 6-5 and bowl eligibility, and help the SOS for a team like Oregon that defeated it. Oregon has defeated 4 bowl-eligible teams and lost a close game against #5. UW should move up to 4 on Tuesday. If Oregon defeats Oregon State, wins the Pac-12 champ game against a top 4 ranked UW, and finishes 12-1 as a conference champ, Oregon will look darn good for a PO spot. An 11-1 Ohio State and especially an 11-1 Michigan, will be out of it. 12-1 Louisville has a bad loss at Pitt and even should it defeat FSU, will not jump the Ducks. 12-1 Texas, with more top-25 wins than Oregon and a win over Bama will be dicey. A 12-1 non-conference champ Georgia would have to be found to be 'unequivocally' better than 12-1 conference champ Oregon. I am not that concerned that a 12-1 Oregon with a win over UW will be left out of the Final 4. If this does happen, it will happen because other than for Arizona which climbed its way into the top 25, and UW, and Oregon, since 8 Pac-12 teams were ranked, many of the teams have floundered. One reason this has happened is due to playing 9 conference games in a deep conference. But will the CT take this into account? GO DUCKS! DAM THE BEACERS! Then, Payback Time for UW. Before 12/3, that's all we can with certainty, ask for. If the Beavers lose their bowl game it will not matter to the Ct. The Ct. does not release a ranking after 12/3. Root hard for Florida and Texas Tech. One of Ohio State/Michigan will lose.

I hope so but overall IMO, the Eye Test should not trump metrics and Oregon has the poorest metrics of the 8 PO contenders. If all that matters is the Eye Test, then teams should schedule no team worth a darn OOC. Today, Bama would be ranked higher if it had played Rice and not Texas. Texas is not getting Ct. credit for winning in Tuscaloosa so why not play Vandy instead? An 11-1 UT with a win over Vandy would still be in the PO hunt. And UW, OR, MI, OH ST, and UT are getting no credit for a 9-game conference schedule. The Ct. makes it up as it sees fit. Including ranking MO. as the top 2L team, LSU as the top 3L team, and having 37, now 4L, Tennessee ranked 18 last week. SOS has never mattered to the PO Ct. This better change comes next season.

ESPN - Week 13 Strength of Schedule (SOS) and Strength of Record Rankings (SOR) 1, Georgia - SOS 65 - SOR 5 2. Ohio State - SOS 45 - SOR 2 3. Michigan - SOS 59 - SOR 3 4. FSU - SOS 62 - SOR 4 5. Washington - SOS 35 - SOR 1 6. OREGON - SOS 63 - SOR 9 7. Texas - SOS 9 - SOR 6 8. Alabama - SOS - 28 - SOR 7 By any metric other than the Eye Test, UW should be ranked no lower than 4. And UW assuming UW TCB's against WSU, should jump the loser of the Ohio State vs. Michigan (-4) game to #3 before the Pac-12 champ game. Oregon is at 6, based solely on the Eye Test and not the metrics. This could change come Tuesday. Fortunately, last Saturday Bama swallowed a cupcake and UT defeated an unranked team and did not look great in doing so. Down to the wire and as insignificant as it may seem, Utah flaming out in Tucson and that phantom PI call on Ferguson, does not help Puddles cause. Ditto for CU and WSU going into the tank. Oregon's bowl team wins - Texas Tech, USC, Utah, and perhaps, Cal. WSU if the Cougars find a way to defeat UW but that would hurt Oregon's quality loss. Both UT and Bama have 2+ top-25 wins. I'm hoping the Ct. will drop 4-loss TN out of the top 25 and also Kansas taking away a top-25 win from both Bama and UT.

Oregon and UW will be full partners when the next media deal comes about in 6 years. Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers also tokk a haircut early on when they joined the B1G. And the current Oregon and UW haircuts were administered by Fox, CBS, and NBC, and not the B1G.

Steven A., and when Larry added CU and Utah to save face from being stiff armed by Texas he ended USC's premium share deal. One of Larry's many stupid decisions faciltated by a 'board of directors' who could not be voted out by shareholders a/k/a fans.

Great take but Puddles is going B1G and there is no way or any incentive for Oregon to put the Pac (RIP) back together. It's a Power 2 world and Puddles is living in it. As to competition? Have you watched any B1G football this season. It's Ohio State, Michigan, and 2 O-challenged teams in PSU and Iowa. And no CBB titles since 2001. Volleyball and soccer are very good but baseball, T+fricken, and the other sports? Oregon is moving into a world with more money and overall will not be facing better competition than it did in the Pac-12.

Charles, Spot On! Thank you for exposing the 'little guy' charade and today's society and journalism in general. "It wasn't my fault. Some other dudes did it." Dam the Beavers and the snarky legal loop-holing in an attempt to 'extort' more money from teams that did the heavy lifting over the last decade, primarily, Oregon. 1 CBB run for the Beavers. No CFB playoff appearences or NY 6 bowl games. A stadium down-sizing. 2 years in a row without a P5 OOC opponent. I hope Oregon smacks the one-demensional Beavers team come Friday. And I also hope that Oregon will not go out of its way to make the Civil War happen again. The Pac-2 according to the OSU AD 'has a plan.' According to Baghdad Bob, so did Saddam. Not only have Canzano's articles been over the top, the Beaver fans comments have been way over the top. Oregon doing what it had to do for its fans and the brand was 'immoral' according to many OSU fans. OK, but using a cheap lawyer trick to steal money you did not earn is completely kosher, right? The Pac-12 imploded due to one terrible business decision after another over the last decade. I'm reasonably certain that OSU and WSU representatives were present at the scene of the crimes. GO DUCKS! DAM THE BEAVERS! And shut off the scheduling pipeline which will only put more money in the Beavers grubby claws.

When McCaffery lost the Heisman to a Bama RB whose OL should have won the Heisman, one-third of southern Heisman voters did not have McCaffery in their top 4. Most of the voters from Dixie do not watch Left Coast football. Others will view Bo as a traitor. Bo needs to ball out the next 2 games, LSU will not be playing in a conference champ game and this should help Bo, assuming a Civil War win, with the P5 spotlight on the Pac-12 champ game a week from Friday. It will also help Bo's cause if a very good A+M D show up against Daniels and holds Daniels under 300 pass yards and 100 on the ground. East Coast bias may not be all that it is made out to be but SEC bias is 100% real. Bo now has a big line to go against, -14.5, in the Civil War game. LSU the highest-ranked 3-loss team is -11 vs. the Aggies. Bo and DL will be making a visit to NYC. But Bo is more focused on winning the next 2 games and getting into a hotly contested final 4. Michigan is -4 vs. Ohio State. FSU -11.5 vs. UF. Texas -13.5 vs. Texas Tech. OK is -12.5 vs. TCU, with OK St. -17.5 vs. BYU. Ducks fans should be cheering the Cowboys on. It would be far better for Bo and Oregon if OK St., or K St, played Texas in the B12 champ game rather than a rematch of the Red River Rivalry game. And a Texas Tech win would be playoff-perfect for Oregon. Go Ducks! Dam the Beavers.

The Apple Cup is on from 2024 - 2028 but OH ST canceling out on UW left a scheduled opening for 2024/25. I see no reason whatsoever why Oregon should pay money to fit the Beavers into future schedules and if Oregon does so, OSU best agree to play back-to-back in Autzen. Oregon plays Ohio State and UW next season and on the road in Michigan and Wisconsin. Do you want to add another quasi-P4 opponent to Texas Tech with a new QB coming in? And, BTW, OSU is suing Oregon and trying to gloom onto money that Oregon and not OSU earned. Beavers be dammed.

Southern voters shafted McCaffery and with Daniels in the mix playing for a 3-loss team they will likely do the same to Bo. Daniels had a great game Saturday versus Georgia. Er, Georgia State. Hopefully, LSU's win over TN will not be a top-25 win come Tuesday. The AP ranking 4-loss TN and not 3-loss NC State is senseless but at least AP voters had the good sense to move UW ahead of FSU.

Oregon stays ahead of Texas on Tuesday and it will be due to the Eye Test.

Annie, you have confirmed what OBD members all already know, you are a far brighter and better person than I.

No top-25 wins and Texas with a win at Bama. Texas doesn't jump the Ducks it's all Eye Test. Especially with UT also having a win over ranked K State. At least in all likelihood, K State knocked Kansas out of the top 25 yesterday. Saturday's beneficial wins for Oregon, Texas Tech eking out a home win over UCF and becoming bowl eligible, OK ST winning at Houston and staying a game ahead of OK for the B12 title game, the Ducks do not want a Red River Rivalry rematch in the B12 champ game, and UW coming through in the rain in Corvallis. DB Muhammad played a terrific game last night and picked up the poor UW passing attack that suffered from the drops of rain and the football. UGA is an early -4 vs. Bama in the SEC champ game. Current Pac-12 championship odds are Oregon -190 and UW +180.

YELL YES! Just another invasion of the wired world imposing on our sanity and rudely doing so. These pop-up ads are like a person who routinely interrupts your conversation. No wonder civility and etiquette are going to Hay in a handbasket. This is not on you Charles. This is on the wired world we live in. A world where self-entitled egoists like Pat McAfee can scream and show off their way to the top. If it aggravates you, well, that's your problem. Is technology that provides for instant 'knowledge' worth the cost to society? And the tech is still in its infancy.

After easy win at ASU, it's reasonable to ask: Is anyone playing better than Bo Nix and Oregon? THEATHLETIC.COM "If that team runs the table, they deserve that opportunity because that's one of the best football teams I've played in my entire career."

Morales: Caleb Williams' USC career may be done, and road ahead for Trojans looks daunting THEATHLETIC.COM What the program and Lincoln Riley didn’t accomplish while Williams was at quarterback will likely be what his time is most remembered for.

Great win by UGA. Bama had a nice nap. How about Auburn? If you are going to go to the bakery in the penultimate regular season game buy a cupcake and not road Kill. CUSA likely champ NM State has one hell of a football coach.

Tuesday, Week 4 CT. rankings. 1. UGA 2. Ohio State 3. Michigan 4. Washington 5. FSU 6. Oregon 7. Texas 8. Bama 9. Louisville And BTW, Bama's next opponent, Auburn, was throttled today by New Mexico State. Jerry Kill is one heck of a football coach.

With 3 cupcakes to start the season and no OREGON and UW. And a home loss to ASU. This is close to the worst Chip could do.

As it should be. Take no prisoners! Leave no crumbs!

And gives a whole lot of creit to your recent take on Will being the best! The offensive interferance call was OFFENSIVE!

Thank goodness UW held on! And should at least move up to #4 in the CT rankings. Now, with the UW win, Oregon has a better shot of holding its destiny. At least in the Pac-12. With Utah getting destroyed at AZ, there goes Oregon's 1 top-26 win, UCLA beating down the Trojans, once-ranked CU losing badly at WSU, and FSU, with its QB down and Texas winning, Oregon needed an eyeball test win. And hats off to Texas Tech for coming back against and defeating UCF and now being bowl-eligible. It also helped Oregon for OK St to get the win on the road at Houston and to have the B12 playoff advantage over an Oklahoma team that won in Logan over BYU with its starting QB on the bench in the 2nd half. TX vs. OK St will be far better than a rematch of TX vs. Oklahoma. FSU? It stinks that starting QB Travis went down and is out for the season but a 12-1 Louisville with the loss at Pitt will not jump Oregon even if it wins the ACC champ game. Iowa struggled for a win over Illinois and is now cannon fodder for the winner of Ohio State at Michigan. But Texas won a tough game on the road. And should Bama defeat UGA in the SEC champ game Texas will have the best loss. Go Ducks! Dam the Beavers! But it's coming down to the wire as of now, even if the Ducks win the next 2 games. Bodacious should stay at the head of the Heisman Trophy class. Penix made great plays tonight with his legs willing UW to victory but his stats were not all that and LSU and Daniels swallowed a cupcake.

How about NOOOOOO! ASU was out of its element. But AZ with a beatdown of Utah, did ding Oregon's PO chances. The Ducks 1 top-25 win will go bye-bye on Tuesday. WSU buried CU. TX Tech is in a fistfight with UCF. OK held on without Dillon Gabriel on the field in the 2dn half at BYU. Puddles needs OK ST to close out the win at Houston. And hopefully, Iowa State will upset Texas tonight in chilly conditions. Both UGA and Ohio State won easily. Michigan, not so much, but this was a sandwich game at Maryland with the HC having a sandwich in the team hotel. Please UW, do not take the L in Corvallis. Oregon, is in danger of losing the 6 spot, notwithstanding the beatdown of ASU. UW loses and with the AZ win I have doubts that Oregon will stay ahead of Bama and Texas if the Horns win tonight. The Ducks need to play a #5 or higher-ranked UW in LV, Louisville today with its 38-31 win at Miami is in the ACC champ game versus FSU and if Louisville holds serve at home vs. Kentucky will be ranked in the top 10. UGA was impressive today against a way overrated Tennessee. 12-1 UGA and 12-1 conference champ Bama will likely be in the PO unless Bama blows out UGA. So, Go Dawgs, Right, and Left Coast species both. With UCLA's impressive win over USC, Oregon's already weak SOS has taken a lot of hits. At my age, I am in no hurry to see time go by but PO-wise, I wish it was 2024.

Thanks, Charles, lots to ponder here. Query: When looking at average points per game, I wonder if Chip, Helfrich, and Frost, had a Corpulent Cupcake Portland State on the schedule? It's not like 38 points in Lubbock, 35 points at Utah, 36 points in Seattle, and 36 at home vs. SC are bad numbers, they're not. But overwhelmingly good? Especially the number vs. USC at home? I think it is a tough standard but also fair to say that many Ducks fans were not pleased with the points put up on defenseless Troy. Especially after the 1st period 2 long TD passes start. It almost seemed as if DL and Stein were willing to play for a 14-17 point lead throughout the game, dink and dunk and run the clock. Although, if this is correct, and it appears to be so after re-watching the game, why go for 2 points after the 1st 2 scores if you don't believe that you will be in a game-long shoot-out? I don't believe the 2 point calls were on Stein but IMO not taking the points early is a continuance of some of this season's baffling O coaching decisions. This is a fun team to watch but is it as good as the efficient, entertaining blur teams that Kelly put on the field? It is not, IMO, as entertaining. Many of the big pass plays this season are dependent on RAC. Bo has a 55% completion percentage on throws of 20+ yards. I see this season's O as an efficient, short-yardage pass, game-control O. When it truly mattered, in Seattle, the O on 2 consecutive plays could not gain short yardage to ice the game. And this was against a UW D that is bad against the run. Will, who is doing a terrific job to date, has the luxury of working with a coach on the field in Bo Nix. I think it will be very interesting next season to see how the O goes without Bo. Meanwhile, Ducks win the next 5 in a row and there will be no debate about the OREGON HOF status of Will or any of the other coaches. First, Go Ducks! Fork the Devils! Thanks again for the thought provoking take.

He is awaiting the trifecta, being fired from his third HC job. Not only is UCLA Jardin not happy with the record considering the 3-0 OOC layup, but he is reportedly ticked off in regards to Chip's refusal to rub elbows with the boosters and Chip's lackluster recruiting. It's always been Chip's 'My Way or the Highway.' Looks like he's headed toward the 101, but he will be driving (if not chauffeured) in a Maybach.