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Sounds like a transfer portal at worst. Parents often get what they want in the short term, but the young man is an adult.

Signed and delivered, the drama is over.

If a student athlete goes to UW for their highly ranked nursing program then I say well done, we can't compete. If they want to play football, then they might want to look at the records over the last couple decades, and it seems many have.

So DAT flipped from sc, which then caused Mateyo to flip from sc? Basically success breads success. Lets hope Mateyo has half the highlights DAT had. I actually think the highlights may come from Jurrion, but there are some playmakers coming in, well done!

Brilliant, we need to 5* recruits, but they need to be grounded by the 3* and 4* players pushing them and sometimes taking their spot. I appreciate the previous staff and this staff's focus on bringing in elite talent but their both needs to be balance and an awareness of the culture of competition. I would say recruiting and putting together an elite program is both a science and an art. There is science pointing towards bringing in 5* talent, but the culture can't be ignored. Cranking NIL money toward unproven players isn't a proven part of that equation. I do wonder how having have money and have little money within a program with the NIL things will work out. The art, to which you speak, or Holtz did, is also an important component. Lanning seems to have that going with his team not letting down against lesser talent. The melt down against the beavs does point to a softness which needs to be addressed. Maybe that was just the boy wonder on the phone with his next job in mind as the game got away? Great comment though as we became enamored with this new era of elite talent becoming a bigger fixture of the program. The 5* talent needs to earn it, and keep seeing the grinders pushed all those who come in contact with them. As much as we may want the Allen Iverson type of player, who was so talented he seldom needed to, wanted to or did practice, we need players who lead by example, and drive the team over the top.

Another great article, and ponder point. I also think it is important to consider what makes a healthy qb room. Oregon has all the potential elements of a healthy qb room, and it will be interesting to see if and how that comes too fruition. First off we have a history of developing elite level qbs, with a Heisman winner and one of the top NFL qb's. These two elements count when a high school kid, or transfer considers going to a school. The second component is having an OC who both knows how to develop a qb and runs an offense where a qb can be highlighted. Oregon, with one vØid, has been a program where a qb can put up stats and learn to run an offense. Stein should be another OC with the traits qb's look for. Another factor, is having a mentor to learn from. One thing I saw in the spring game was the leadership Nix had on the field. Freshman, and back-ups need to learn how to command a team. Butters, and Ty didn't have that leadership component, and seeing that from a peer is critical. Some freshman may not want this, but signing onto a team with a mentor is a smart move. Few if any freshman step onto campus ready to lead at D1 level. Lastly I do think some programs have the ability to have more than a couple capable qb's. When you have the dynamics Oregon, and a few other programs have, players will compete for that opportunity, and may be willing to take less NIL money to do that.

The recruiting class of 2022 for Miami = 2021 for Texas ATM. Just like in love, money can't buy love, but it can buy talent.

It will be interesting to see who Stein wants and who he can bring in. After that what can Stein do with the qb's we have, and will have. Those are the questions I have, and will have to wait to see answered. I do think our wide receivers are the most exciting area right now. I don't think we have ever had the talent level we will see on the field next season. Nix with our stable of wideouts, along with TE's will be fun to watch. The other thing I want to see is Stein at Oregon for 2 plus years. I actually put the beav game meltdown on Dilly. Our high powered offense was shut down in the 4th qtr. One TD, and the attempt to force the beavs to run the ball would have worked. Dilly didn't get it done at the end of the season.

While I agree if I was an engineering student I would have questioned my legacy lean toward the green and yellow, but I wasn't and the choice to be a Duck was in my DNA. My only concern, right now, is whether Oregon is still a school which develops qb's. If our new OC can develop our qb's then all is good. I would hope most qb recruits would be most concerned with this question. Chip's record at UCLA with qb's didn't extend from his time at Oregon. He was pretty loyal to DTR, but he didn't develop him into a Heisman winner. Best of luck to Moore, but we will move onward, forward and upward! All we know is Chip will be taking his team to Rutgers and beyond. I'm glad we didn't follow that trail off that cliff.

Lots of options, not worried. The key will be is Stein a better qb developer, recruiter than Dilly was. Dilly took a 5* talent and got the most out of him. What we need with Stein is an ability to develop young qb's. Get us the next Herbert, or Brock Purdy. Find and develop talent, don't worry so much about the stars. We want somebody with the magic and mojo, not just the measurables. Stars get us all excited come signing day, but 4 of our 13 five star recruits turned out to be pretty underwhelming. We are going to need some guys with a rough outline for success that our coaches can make great too!

I'll take Ty Thompson with good qb development over Moore. The play calling for Ty was atrocious last year. If our new guy can guide Ty well we just might have a superior qb than Moore on the bench. As I said in another thread DTR became a Pac-12 honorable mention player under Chip. He also still has massive flaws which will keep him out of the NFL. I suppose UCLA is a great spot to hang out while getting ready to transfer? With QB's I am not sure I would even be that excited if Arch Manning decided he wanted to come to Oregon. Give me a proven transfer qb, or somebody who is willing to work on his game as a back-up. I still think Ty just might prove a diamond in the rough. I love how he has proven to be loyal and says all the right things. Also another year with Nix will be extremely valuable for our program and Ty.

After going to UCLA DTR turned into a Pac-12 honorable mention winner. He also became a qb who still threw off his back foot too often and isn't going to get drafted, nor make it in the NFL. I am sure he had a good time going to UCLA, maybe that is what Moore is after? Chip is a brilliant OC, but he hasn't proven himself a great qb developer. Now if Chip had stolen our next DAT I would be pissed. I want to see Lanning bring in speed like Chip use to have. That is the secret sauce on offense we are missing.

My bet is most qb's will transfer before the end of their college eligibility. Why not pick a transfer who has proved himself. The new normal will be picking up a successful qb transfer, if you want to be successful.

Wow, I am just.........

I love history, and I love the future even more, Go Ducks!

If you can't handle the truth then go to another program, we deal in truth.

In the end I consider all of them Ducks, transfers in, out all the way to our 9 year Duck TE. We have no idea what these young men are going through in their decisions. I have been critical of Travis Dye, but wow, what a Duck he was and always will be. Also a guy like Colt Lyerla, who really understands fully the deamons he is fighting. They all came to Oregon with amazing dreams, and learned from the experience. We benefited, and for that I am grateful, maybe it is just the season we are in, I don't know. I do know most if not all deserve the benefit of the doubt. It is easy to be the critic, and accept the cheers for our cynicism. It isn't easy to put the effort and risk with one's best effort and fail, well down all our Ducks!

One item we need to focus on is Lanning is putting together his first recruiting class, high school kids along with transfers, and finally able to create his own team. Last year Lanning was holding together both MariØ's team and recruiting class. The next 12 months are going to be extremely exciting as we see what Lanning really wanted on the field and sideline. We are going to see just how good Lannings coaches are at recruiting, developing talent and creating their own culture. This is what we have been waiting for!

I am not so much against the transfer portal as the NIL, as we know it now. The transfer portal finally gives the student athlete a little power over their scholarship. When a coach who has recruited them jumps ship, a student athlete use to be locked into the school they signed on to. A defense or offense could completely change and the athletes skills no longer highlighted, or used. The coach moves on, but the athletes were locked into virtual servitude. The NIL has added another carrot, which is enticing even more student athletes to jump ship, and we now are seeing too many end up, as you said, without a chair when the music stops. I hope we continue to see the transfer portal, but see the student athletes become a little more savvy with their decisions. I suppose, just like the lure of the draft, too many student athletes will be drawn away from finishing what they started, but at least they have a choice. I also am interested in how Lanning turns this MariØ laden team into what he wants on the field. The ratio of transfers outs to transfers in is out of whack, but that will change. This will be one of the more compelling stories going forward. We should have closer to the culture and kind of student athlete Lanning wants soon, maybe not soon enough for most. I suppose I would say the portal isn't destroying college football, it is remaking college football. The portal isn't ruining the Oregon Football Program it is remaking the Oregon Football Program. I will also say with Mark Emmett finally leaving there is a chance, I said a chance, Charlie Baker can provide a little better guidance to programs going forward. Emmert was an undeniable destructive force to the NCAA and student athletes. Maybe Baker can provide some much needed vision and enlightened direction!

Also looks like OSU could have passed on us if we had focused on the run in that melt down loss we had. Beavs 13-19 passing, and running the ball. The beavs are a formidable team, Smith a very good coach.

You did see the recent headline about Leach, right? I do agree one can question his handling of college kids, and safely fall on either side of the fence on the guy. I actually like the guy, even with the occasional questionable judgement issues. He was no Woody Hayes, but no saint either.

Tosu just lost their 5* qb commit, welcome to the wild world of the new card game called high school recruiting with the addition of the wild cards, transfers. Just when you thought you knew what was in the hands of the players, the wild cards add a whole other dimension. With the pot these kids are playing for getting higher, and in the open, unlike when the SEC was the only place where money was fluid, things are only going to get more interesting. I wouldn't want to be on either side of this mess, but Lanning seems to relish it, thankfully.

I think perspective is critical. Dan Lanning has been a head coach for 1 season, that's it. This was like a 5* freshman player taking the reins at both QB and Middle Linebacker, he did pretty well I would say. I am not really going to rate him other than say there are areas of concern, but overall Dan Lanning has shown the foundation a great coach can launch from. My take is Lanning is learning how to run all elements of a football program. The responsibilities of a head coach of elite football are massive. I think a weakness of Lanning was he was too hands off, but that is how an excellent CEO does things. You hire good people, give them a framework within to work, and let them do their thing. Always making the decisions about in game shifts wasn't something Lanning controlled. We saw that happen the last few years, and the offense was stifled. The head coaches shadow was all over the program, and that shadow didn't allow growth. The question I have is can Lanning manage the disfunction within the defensive coaching group? This is where the true test will come from. Can he make the coaching changes needed to bring chaos, instead of the prevent we have seen so far. My bet he has made another great hire at OC and will let him run the show. At defense, can he tweak it enough to give us what we want. As a freshman coach I was thrilled with what I saw, and continue to see. A true winner, which I think Lanning is, gets excited when they see failure, and disfunction. The question is can we trust Lanning to deal with this failure? I give him my complete trust, but expect more failure, and issues as the freshman goes through his sophomore season. I did find this article about how Saban deals with coaches, and takes responsibility interesting. I imagine Lanning deals with in game decisions in a very similar way. Nick Saban not Placing Blame on Coordinators after Crimson Tide's Recent Struggles - Sports Illustrated Alabama Crimson Tide News, Analysis and More WWW.SI.COM The Alabama head coach said each person has to be held accountable for their role, but that the ultimate responsibility falls back on him.

Shocked, really just shocked! The whole thing was so well planned out, how did it go wrong?

Prove yourself and move up is the game in the transfer world. If you don't prove yourself you may get pushed out, also the back story, I would imagine, in many cases. The real game is for programs to figure out which student athletes, are pushed out, and which just want to keep moving up. Which student athletes are uncoachable in a situation where you need coachable athletes. Every player needs to be on the same page, there can't be lone wolves running around. So you try to pick high school kids who haven't been ruined by all the accolades they have received. Too often the elite athletes are full of themselves, and with the NIL money it won't get any better. A good case study would be Texas ATM. All I know is I wouldn't want to be competing in the world of Rivals ratings, transfer pools and NIL money. It has to be a wild wild world for coaches right now. I hope our staff is excited about the opportunity, and good at it. Time will tell, and we might be surprised by the outcome, on the upside, and downside.