[Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.]

Please be a smokescreen!

[Brady Hoke seen in Eugene yesterday???]

Hard pass.  If he is here to interview, we have moved on to contingency Plan #17 which would be disheartening.

Give me Wilcox before Hoke, and I do not want a Wilcox (yawn) hire.

 

Look at Hoke’s last game.  Finally a chance for a league championship and got completely out-schemed, out-coached, out motivated.  Sound familiar?  Only difference was SDSU was favored.

[Kiffin Could be the Man]

On 12/8/2021 at 11:50 PM, kirklandduck said:

Maybe Joe Brady? 

Maybe, though I dismissed him since the words said “IS in the NFL”.  Joe got fired already.  

[Kalani Sitake from Brigham Young could be the man]

Maybe, but interviewing is far from having an offer.

[Kiffin Could be the Man]

On 12/8/2021 at 5:24 PM, latracey said:

Well... Canzano says it's NOT Kiffin and Canzano definitely has some inside connections. Rumors out of Mississippi are saying Kiffin will be announced as Oregon's new head coach on Friday. Anyone feeling the deja vu ?!

Isn’t Message Board Geniuses known for posting crazy stuff “someone” pasted somewhere as a way to get clicks and laughs?    I mean a “small Ole Miss donor said…”.  Smells fishy to me

[Kiffin Could be the Man]

Canzano is also reporting Oregon is talking to a current NFL  guy.

Urban?  - would be interesting if they passed on Kiffin

Kellen Moore? - First time HC?

 

 

 

 

 

John Canzano

 

@johncanzanobft

 

Oregon is also talking with at least two other candidates, I’m told. One of those is in the NFL.

[Reality is Few Coaches Stay Long Term; We Need to Move on With Winning]

Saban and Dabo are an exception of previous Natty winners who were/still are at their school for a significant amount of time afterwards. Jimbo, Meyer, Chizik, Orgeron. Depends if you want to count Les Miles, Mack Brown.  Of course, there are many reasons.

 

The point is movement is 99% certain everywhere,  we should accept that as reality even though it hurts.

[Kiffin Could be the Man]

On 12/8/2021 at 3:27 PM, DanLduck said:

How long do you think he would stay?

Guy has burned a lot of bridges. 

I am not worried about that,, they almost all leave.  Win a Natty, leave.  I am all in for that.

[Reality is Few Coaches Stay Long Term; We Need to Move on With Winning]

On 12/8/2021 at 3:42 PM, Babyjesus615 said:

That's where having our own private El Dorado for them to throw money at hiring the best supporting cast around the HC comes in handy. He can learn from people more experienced and hopefully grow and adapt into his own legacy.

I respect your view, and to me it feels like Helfrich part 2.  One could argue that situation got us a Playoff (Rose Bowl) win and a beat down in the Natty BUT was with Chip’s guys and a Heisman running the show.  Then local coach cratered everything as he was clearly not HC material.    It has to be local AND with HC coaching chops.  I don’t see that in Wilcox, as much as I like the guy and family.

[Reality is Few Coaches Stay Long Term; We Need to Move on With Winning]

On 12/8/2021 at 3:27 PM, Duck1984 said:

Agree on the concept, but let’s not whiff on the person again.

 

Dabo.

Fair point!

[Reality is Few Coaches Stay Long Term; We Need to Move on With Winning]

On 12/8/2021 at 3:12 PM, Babyjesus615 said:

This is a guy who PK and the boosters can throw their money and resources behind to hire a staff that can focus on recruiting players that fit the program yet also have the chops to coach these guys up into quality talent. 

I am good with this being an ideal and do not mean to imply otherwise.  My point of concern is: the options of that local guy (e.g. Wilcox or Chip) do not have the current coaching/recruiting chops.  Have not shown it for awhile.  I do not see a person that fits this successful description. Open to being wrong .

[Reality is Few Coaches Stay Long Term; We Need to Move on With Winning]

Yes, I am frustrated with how the MC thing went down and the horrible timing, but not with his reason for going home.

 

After a cooling off period and reading from some smart people here, this Oregon fan from the early 70s has concluded that we cannot expect long term coach loyalty in this sport.  It happens, but is more rare than ever.

 

I think RM and PK came to that realization in hiring Willie versus from hiring within the Oregon or local pipeline. Go for better chance of winning in both coaching and recruiting.  Yes they whiffed on the person, but not the concept.  They probably thought they had both (winning and loyalty) in agreeing to the players’ wishes to hire MC.

 

This is why I think it is a mistake to quench our loyalty pains by hiring Wilcox or Chip.  Any gains from stability of thinking true stud recruits will come and stay in a local system get outweighed by coaching and recruiting “prowess” that really gets stud recruits/staffs and coaches them up to win consistently.

 

For the fan that wants loyal, we are signing up to a long run reality average of 8 win seasons and an occasional flash in pan/luck run.  That made me happy in the 90s.  Winning a Holiday or Sun or Vegas Bowl was cool.  Not now. We expect way more.  Local connections are too small in number to have legit National contender coaches amongst the population. The great facilities and resources would help them, but not push us over the top.  We can be the school that wins the big one with the right approach.

 

I am all in for finding a winner that might be gone in 4 years but build a succession plan, as it gives best chance to keep our current expectation of WINNING Rose Bowls and possible shots at playoffs.  Or better, we need a Natty.  Not another Mid tier Bowl trophy.

 

Lane County or bust.

[We Can't Do a Regular Poll so...]

Aranda.  If he says no, then Kiffin.

[Oddsmakers: "Oregon is Destined for an Underwhelming Hire"]

On 12/7/2021 at 3:54 PM, UtahDuck said:

Part of the issue with the hire for oregon, is it has been a blindside late hire. USC started early and has been looking for sometime. Oregon is stuck with the leftovers. It may be possible to get a pull somewhere but time will always help with the hiring process. and as you pointed out oregon needs to hire before the end of the year. The remaining staff may be able to convince players to hold on but we will need a good coach to finish in february.

Well said on the blindside timing. It would take time to groom a Riley type hire.  Though it appears UO knew the Miami thing was a thing “a few weeks ago”,  RM should have already been working it and not just putting all his eggs on MC signing a new extension.

And given Dec 15 early signing period, year end is too late.

After much consideration, I vote for Aranda.

 

Successful and west coast guy, love the Defensive chops.  Buy him a big time OC.  Despite departures, the talent on the roster can still win Pac12 presuming QB emerges.  If they do quickly, the recruits would come back to near the levels we have had under MC.

[Oddsmakers: "Oregon is Destined for an Underwhelming Hire"]

Thanks for showing the same site’s USC hiring odds.  While clearly wrong on the candidate, the odds however are telling.  Most of the names on the USC list are National “WOW” names.  Not on the Oregon list.  This shows the type of job and coach candidate attracted that the realists feel each team is due.

 

 They nailed that with USC, even if the name was not on their list.  While people want a wow hire here, and I hope so, odds seem stacked the other way.  The timing of signing day makes that even more stacked.

 

That said, I came to the conclusion after the Stanford game that MC is not a true promised land coach, just an elite recruiter. That we would be better off elsewhere.  I think that will happen, though will take a step back a year or so with this gutting of recruits.