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It is reasonable for any coach in D-1 athletics to know the medical consequences for poor workouts. The Oregon coaching staff fired one the best strength and conditioning trainers in the US and replaced him with an uncredentialed coach whose actions led to severe consequences. The athletes will likely have a shortened lifespan… no amount of money will be able bring that back but maybe a $125M punitive damages will make player safety during workouts a priority in athletics.
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I am thankful that Taggart is gone. This behavior should have never been allowed at the U of O and hopefully never will be here again.
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As much as I hate seeing UofO as a codefendant, I hope Mr Brenner wins. The injury that the snake’s workouts caused were inexcusable.
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NCAA sports was already dead. Who wants to watch a player wreck their knees, damage their brain, or get paralyzed for no income. While the NCAA, universities, advertisers, broadcasters, and coaches are in a multi billion business.
No one asked if it was the end of collegiate sports when the Ohio State abuse scandals from 1978-1998, the jerry Sandusky scandal, or how no one said it was the end of Oregon football when our coach put multiple athletes in the hospital because our coach thought they “were not tough enough”.
All of our sports are already divided into have and have nots: who thinks that Alabama and Ohio State will be out of the playoff discussion within the next ten years? If anything, with NIL, smaller teams will be able to lure big time recruits from larger schools.
College sports has survived some of the worst policies, scandals, and even pac 12 refs. The most adaptable teams will not only survive but will thrive generating revenue for all involved.
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Prayers for the Cristobal familiy
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On 2/5/2022 at 12:25 PM, 1Ducker1 said:
I mostly agree but what concerns me is where does it stop?
It will stop at what the market will bear or we artificially depress the value of their labor. Both are not great choices in a team sport. It’s just what we have to deal with.
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We live in a capitalist society that frowns on cartels. We pay the labor what the market can bear or the business has no reason to exist. These are not kids, the are employees that could use retirement, pay, and tuition wavers. It’s sad we have allowed employers fail to pay their employees for so long. Athletes produce a product that the university benefits from and it’s alright that the labor doesn’t get paid? It’s ok that coaches siphon millions from the school but it’s wrong to pay the labor? I’m going to have to disagree you.
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On 1/30/2022 at 11:36 AM, DanLduck said:
His motivation would be what's best for his family. If his mid-west values can stand Eugene and the PNW, then he could stay. The liberal ideology of the west coast is a far cry from mid-west or southern ones. Not every family can handle that.
If he were to win here, he would get offers at a LOT of schools.
But, I hope that day comes, that would mean we had success.
I want a coach that loves being n Eugene. If our money is standing in the way of his politics, he can apply to liberty U.
That being said Mr. Lanning looks like a decent fellow and most of us (Native from Eugene) get along with loggers and hippies alike. If it is a problem I would have zero problem with him leaving. You can’t sell Oregon football without selling Eugene.
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I think we are being way too critical. It’s not Florece’s responsibility or fault that we (as a culture) continually fall for the “entitlement” narrative. We certainly shouldn’t take our bias out on him.
I take his tweet in good faith that he is just friendly.
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On 1/29/2022 at 4:10 PM, idontrollonshobbas said:
I think Helfrich and Aliotti are available?
What a waste of their talent
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Please don’t make Georgia West make Oregon with a stout defense.
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On 1/24/2022 at 12:44 PM, Drake said:
Dull, low scoring, and predictable is no way to go through life, Coach.
Say it ain’t so!
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The OC hiring process:
MC: you have an innovative offense that scores tons of points
OC: yes, I would like to keep that going…
MC: great! You are hired
After the OC is hired:
MC: I want you to run the running back through the two largest guys on defense until he is injured
OC: Wouldn’t it be better if we ran through the holes?
MC: you lack toughness! Scrap your “schemes” and increase the toughness. That’s the process!
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Dye will always be a duck to me. A man has to do what is best for his family and he is doing it. May he kick butt unless he plays Oregon!
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On 1/21/2022 at 9:04 AM, Charles Fischer said:
And where is the funding for all the other sports? What about equality for the women competing? All revenue generated from football is used to fund the other sports, so how do we fund them?
Again a real difficult issue to solve and without having an expert decipher their financial statements, I can’t make any judgements. It looks to me that football is losing money at 4.8 M/year… but I’m not an expert at deciphering financial statement.
I really believe that their is a lot of revenue to be generated by multiple sports (including women’s BB) that the U of O is leaving on the table.
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On 1/21/2022 at 8:16 AM, Jon Joseph said:
I get it. I understand your POV and it is most reasonable. Your 'plan' would make CFB players employees of the university. With that comes FUCA, FICA, SS and Oregon retirement benefit payments and all other emoluments granted University of Oregon employees. Like the NFL, the free flow of labor would be restricted by contractual agreement. The NFL contractual restraints on free agency have been tested by the courts and upheld. You also would have salary caps. You would have a player's union that might well agree to certain positions receiving a designated income. With this I also expect that you would have a HS draft. What you would not have is unfettered capitalism wholly in the favor of the players and the players managing the business.
Would UO want to be part of 'this?' Many schools now playing P5 CFB would drop the sport or stop giving CFB scholarships. This is turn would negatively effect women's sports in particular and lead to sports such as golf, becoming club and not varsity sports.
I have no objection to NIL if it is used to benefit an 'individual' for his/her athletic performance and not used as a disguise for pay for play. I have no objection to a player transferring within reasonable guidelines that allow for a roster to be created and maintained during the season. If any player notwithstanding being 'paid to play' in the postseason and having loss of income insurance provided did not want to participate they would not be forced to play. But as is the case with a player entering the portal, any player with eligibility left who elected not to play could have his scholarship pulled.
Again I understand your POV but if literally put into place I think you would see many the CFB 'baby' thrown out with the bath water? Personally, I do not view CFB players today as indentured servants. I don't see big time CFB as an oppressor. After all no one is forcing any player to play ball or attend school on a full scholarship.
I understand what you are saying, it is a real difficult nut to crack. In the end it will come down to what are we willing to give up in order to save what we can in collegiate sports. It is my belief that non revenue generating sports will have to be cut in order to continue running sports programs at all. I’m just skipping to the end so the U of O can have a competitive advantage in those market spaces.
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On 1/20/2022 at 6:32 PM, Duck 1972 said:
I heard on AM 1080 The Fan today a comment of the one thing the schools don't want is to have is the players being paid as employees. That's why 80% passed this new version of the constitution. They will do anything they can including kicking the can.
Again this might work out because if they have to pay the players as employees it will gut the money for all the other college sports CFB pays for.
Let's see how it goes. Always hoping for the best.
Of course they don’t want to pay their employees, no employers do. Yes the scholarships is costed out of the athletic department but is just received in the academic department with the employee often graduating with the debt that the scholarship doesn’t cover. What employer doesn’t want their customers and employees paying them. It’s an absolute failure of character in academia that is pervasive in multiple areas not just sports.
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You are advocating to a return to football that I have absolutely hated for years. Compensation is how businesses compete with each other for employees. We allow it for every other I employee hired by the school. We are complaining about employees making $50,000/year? They deserve a salary where they can plan for future and plan a family.
Further, it is imperative that other sports programs to market their sports programs better in order generate more revenue to the school and athletes. Collegiate sports is worse by restricting the free flow of labor, artificially lowering employees wages, and making employees play in in a bowl game that would lower their potential income. It’s wrong on every level. Give them a wage, benefits, and tuition waver.
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Flash Gordon!
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Players: let’s make the most of a free economyNCAA: Plants boot firmly on neck of players, that’s my money!
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I would be more worried Graham would be coming here as an assistant
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Always say Dye! He will always be a duck but he needs to do what is best for him and his family!
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I don’t know where Mr Bennett has worked in his life but place that has distractions, unnecessary hardship, or doesn’t pay their employees fail to produce the best results. The only reason the NCAA works is a cartel that would be legal under any other circumstance not named DeBeers.
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College Football Coaches to Propose Transfer-Portal Windows
in Our Beloved Ducks
Posted · Edited by Pocketchange
I am not a fan of restricting the flow of labor to satisfy the whims of a bunch of millionaires. Especially when ncaa has a pattern of ignoring abusive coaches.
Further players transferring isn’t the real problem in college athletics (it usually isn’t the labor that cause havoc in the marketplace)… it’s the coaches, staff, and admin. Coaches leaving in the middle of the season, poaching labor and other coaches, ect. from other schools is ruining the game.
Reigning in the poor behavior of the coaches, implementing harsher no compete clauses, and severely fine coaches to prevent them from poaching recruits or players from their current team would bring some stability. I recommend a 1 year sit out for all coaches that transfer schools in ncaa athletics.