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  1. Three years isn't long enough to really question the general narrative; but, the scorecard the last 3 NFL drafts IS interesting: Draft Picks by state (2020-2022): Oregon: 13 Washington: 9 Arizona: 7 2020: Oregon (3): Ben Bartch (Blanchet), Blake Brandel (Central Ca), Justin Herbert (Sheldon) Washington (5): Ezra Cleveland (Bethel), Evan Weaver (Gonz), Jacob Eason (Lake St), Jake Luton (Marys-Pil), Shane Lemieux (W Valley) Arizona (3): Dustin Woodard (Chandler), Kyle Hinton (Liberty), Austin Jackson (N Canyon) 2021: Oregon (6): Marlon Tuipulotu (Central), Brady Breeze (Central Ca), Talanoa Hufanga (Crescent V), Osa Odighizuwa (D Douglas), John Bates (Lebanon), Elijah Molden (West L) Washington (1): Joe Tryon (Hazen) Arizona (1): Roy Lopez (Mesquite) 2022: Oregon (4): Cole Turner (Clack), Teagan Quitoriano (Sprague), Daniel Hardy (Valley Ca), Samori Toure (Westview) Washington (3): Kyler Gordon (Ar Murphy), Abraham Lucas (Ar Murphy), Cade Otton (Tum) Arizona (3): Chase Lucas (Chandler), DJ Davidson (Desert Ridge), Brock Purdy (Perry)
  2. I did notice some pretty blazing 200 meter times listed for the incoming Ducks: Khamari Terrell: 21.06 Harrison Taggart: 21.57 Christian Gonzalez: 21.65 Devon Jackson: 21.82 Jahlil Florence: 21.93 Jahlil Tucker: 22.55
  3. I think obviously a lot of times it has to be bad advice. That said, I sometime wonder if some guys are just ready to take their shot, and if it doesn't work, ready to get on with the next step of their lives? Not everyone is gonna like school the same; and, I would imagine some people get to the point they are happy with their "college experience" and don't always want to sign up for another year of the same experience. Maybe they feel like they have gotten what they want to out of college ball, and mostly feel ready to take that NFL shot (even if it is as an URFA). Some may even feel another year isn't likely to greatly improve their chances. Not saying I would agree, just it must happen.
  4. I think the OL is pretty much as should be expected. While I think the expression gets a touch of overuse, "high floor/low ceiling" seems to be a fair way to put it. An OL that may not dominate the Arizona's and Eastern Washington's of the college football world, but also won't be dominated by the Ohio State's or Georgia's either. Maybe not a lock future NFL guy in the current top six. At the same time, a big, experienced, mature group with a bunch of solid and successful college players. I sorta see it mostly as a "known commodity" rather than a question. With I believe 3 starters finishing their eligibility and 2 starters in their 5th season, next year may be one of those "five new starters" kinda deals.
  5. I think Justin Herbert, as a top 10 pick, is going to average about $6.6 million per year over his first four year contract. Imagine paying a high school kid $8 million to just show up on campus? We may also see a kid like Bryce Young (Alabama), who should be off to the pros after this next season, get an NIL offer to come back to Alabama for another additional year, because as a top 5 NFL pick, he might be slotted at about 8 million, when Alabama's NIL group might offer him 10 million. Go to a bottom feeder NFL club or stay and make a couple extra million playing for (another) national championship? He still would be getting his first NFL contract going at a young age if he stayed for a 4th (or maybe even 5th) year. Take less money and go get beat up over 17 games in Detroit, or in Carolina, or with the Jets, on take more money and stay and play for national championships with all the best talent in Alabama?
  6. If I'm remembering correctly, the ducks had adopted "the shield" punt formation (which had just hit the football world in a major way in 2002 in place of the "spread" punt formation - any special teams experts in the house?). Haloti was part of the three person group directly blocking in front of the punter. The punt gets away and Haloti gets hit chasing the play. I don't think the hit ever shows up on any replay angle but indeed it was either first quarter (or first half).
  7. I always think back to "what might have been" 2003, when the Ducks opened the season up from with: 6-6 310 Igor Olshansky 6-5 345 Haloti Ngata 6-5 340 Junior Siavii 6-4 262 Devan Long I think 6-1 310 pound Robby Valenzuela was in the DT rotation (and the "little guy" in the group, Long, I believe still is 4th all-time in Duck football career sacks and 3rd all-time in career tackles for loss). These many years, it has stuck with me the TV analyst, in the pregame, prior to the kickoff at Mississippi State, saying he walked past the Duck DL warming up and thought he was walking past an NFL DL. Of course Haloti gets knocked out for the year in the first half, and the Ducks end up with an up-and-down 8-5 year, and that monster front never gets to completely show itself off. Igor goes on to be a second round NFL draft pick and is a multi-year starter over 8 NFL seasons, Haloti of course goes first round and plays 13 seasons including five Pro Bowls, Siavii battles injuries but plays five NFL seasons; and, I believe Long even has a cup of coffee as an UDFA and his career ends in injury while trying to make his way back to the NFL playing in NFL Europe.
  8. I'd guess whether he can participate in the combine, or at least PRO Day workouts, will play a (significant) roll. If injury prevents those workouts, I think getting drafted becomes (extra) risky for NFL teams. If he is going to be an UFA, coming back make sense because with a strong year, I think he is a draftable player. Have not seen any updates on his injury, or if he stays, if he is expected for spring? Certainly a guy who can easily sit out spring, but with a new install coming on offense, it would certainly be a plus.
  9. Chip wasn't as "bad" at recruiting as many seem to remember: DAT, Armstead, Harris, Buckner, Addison, Marshall, Long, Brown, Johnstone, Ifo, and many others. He also did better than probably predicted finding good kids in the 300-900 national ratings range (like Clay, Patterson, Keliikipi, Dargan, T. Mitchell, Hill, Grasu, Stanford, and others). He just never quite got over the top with recruiting, finishing each recruiting season with a long list of kids putting Oregon #2 or #3, a series of "almost", still his classes were #30, #12, #12, and #14, and again seemed to hit on a larger % of lower rated kids/JC than is probably expected. Helfrich wasn't that bad either, he got a number of kids a lot of programs were after (Tyner, Freeman, Carrington, Kaumatule, Griffin, Mitchell, Hunt, Jonsen, Ofodile, Lovette, Merritt, plus again a good amount of lower rated kids that did well: Crosby, Dye, Nelson, Jelks, Amadi, Herbert, Lemieux, Throckmorton, Hanson, and on and on). It sort of stands to reason as the glow and success started to dip, recruiting got more difficult. Maybe as opposed to Chip, he possibly had a higher "bust ratio" than would be expected with the top half of his classes (and had a few more than probably expected bad apple type situations). I've seen it argued when Chip took over he inherited an older group of coaches who didn't especially like to get out and recruit, so his "style"/approach was popular in house. By the time MH was in it, he had a very much older staff, I've even read the suggestion by then only a couple of guys on staff would ever even leave campus to recruit (didn't get out to schools, didn't get out to camps, didn't get out and talk to people or enjoy doing in-person visits). When someone had to go out and do the leg work in person, it was only one or two guys. It might just be random chatter, but you can possibly see how it might have come to pass as well. I doubt Chip is gonna change much in recruiting. He hasn't exactly cashed in on the perception UCLA was a place that would "recruit itself". Maybe if success came sooner there it might have flipped more? It would (obviously) help if Chip brought in some younger staff to do more leg work/relationship building if he were to prioritize it. Hard to say. Chip might not get there, moving forward, he now might be able to mine the portal and be just fine. It's a different game in some ways now, and to sell a kid on his second time around, may not involve as much "smothering them with attention" that the current "social media" era of recruiting seems to require.
  10. Wasn't Wilcox in the mix when MC got the job and word was interest from JW was very lukewarm? Word on one of the Husky sites was his agent was trying to get his name into the UW coaching search due to interest from JW, but the UW never really had him near the top of their list.
  11. I think Mario was just what Oregon needed at the time, a program stabilizer: come in, put in a system, get buy-in, hire a solid coaching and support staff, and succeed on the recruiting trail. I don't follow Miami that closely, but it sounds like it may be what they need as well. But I'm not sure he can really coach, or at least brings much to the table beyond the baseline. He needs to win with recruiting. And people love his recruiting, but having followed it myself pretty closely (since maybe 1998), I'll just say, if he is gonna win this way, it still needs to be better, and quite a bit better: if he is gonna play this bland style offense, and trot out essentially the same "bend but don't break defense" 75% of college football is using. The recruiting is very good, and watching guys like KT and Sewell is certainly fun, but it isn't close to being enough to win playing blah football. Oregon has been closing in on the magic 60% "blue chip" ratio, putting it firmly in the top 10-12. But the huge difference between Oregon and the very top programs is the number of top 50-60 recruits. In the current 2017-2021 group, MC has gotten 10 (in the 247 Composite): Georgia has 38, Alabama 37, Ohio State 33, Clemson 25, and LSU even 16. As much as USC has struggled, from 2017-2021, MC's "all time" success in recruiting at the UO recently, they still have brought in 17 top 60 recruits. Oregon is still in on some top kids, but currently I believe in this cycle Banks is the only top 60 kid. There aren't 2 or 3, let alone 5,6, or 7. Unless Oregon hires a real dud, I think Oregon can still recruit well beyond MC. The "next step" IMO is much more likely to come from better coaching, better talent evaluation, better player development, improved scheme than some future "next step" that may or may not come in recruiting (much better than we have been seeing) if it means Oregon must win with MC's current style of football, which has little to do with the current state of college football. Shoot, MC was just schooled twice by Dulwig, a former Bellotti cast off.
  12. Interesting to look at the two QB prospects JM brought into Mississippi State while there: Schrader and Mayden: https://247sports.com/player/garrett-shrader-46038605/ https://247sports.com/player/jalen-mayden-56662/ And the graduate transfer QB Mississippi State took: https://247sports.com/Player/Tommy-Stevens-35502/ And the QB at Mississippi State who probably had the most success during the JM period: https://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Fitzgerald-33189/ It does appear JM has a certain type of QB recruit he looks for. (While not convinced QBs need to be broken into PRO/DUAL categories anymore as the distinctions between the two appear to be less and less in today's game) interesting to note all four were DUAL, while I believe JB, TT, and TB have all been PRO.
  13. I expect AB to surprise some people. NC run? Unfortunately, 2023 in my humble opinion is where the window may actually really open. Doesn't mean there won't be a lot to enjoy before then. I'd say too high an expectation in 2021 and 2022 is just gonna disappoint some people. Just the reality of where college football/Oregon football is at this point in time.
  14. Exactly. I'd imagine the OOC economics of a home game for tOSU are in at least the $4.5-$7 million range at least. The economics for Oregon playing anyone at home are likely $3.5-$5 million against anyone. Budgeting on travel for San Jose State, Utah State, Portland State or Sac State, maybe makes sense for a $1 million dollar payday for those schools. For Oregon, losing a home game is much bigger, even $1 million isn't going to make up for the potentially $3.5-$5 million dollars lost not having another home game. To take anything less than a return would be IMO a poor call, and something a program aspiring to go where Oregon wants to go, shouldn't let stand. Oregon is long past being "big timed". COVID sucks, but either you stick up for yourself or you don't. Let them play Central Michigan...
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