Posted May 22, 20232 yr 1Funduck Posted May 22, 20232 yr #-48 <p> In the latest recruiting rankings, Oregon has risen to #5. But, looking closer, this ranking is skewed. In my opinion, looking at the individual player grade is more accurate. Having 39 recruits but all 3* is NOT better than having 25 players all 4/5*. Quantity is NOT better than quality. </p> <p> </p> <p> Oregon has vaulted in both categories and its been enjoyable to watch. If we are to grade Oregon on player grade outs, then Oregon sits at #9. It doesn't matter how many kids but the quality of kid coming in. Take the quantity number and throw it in the trash can when it comes to rankings in the recruiting wars. For example: U$C sits at 91.59 but that's an average between having 2-4* and 1-3*. Or in other words 2-1 ratio. But, U$C only has 3 recruits. Not tearing up the recruiting season are they. The underlying current tells a below the surface story for Oregon though. </p> <p> </p> <p> Oregon, in no way possible, should be sitting with 14 commits and ranked with a 91.20 average player score...in MAY!!!! Yeah!! MAY!!! </p> <p> </p> <p> What is this telling me? IMO, Oregon is about to close on 2-4 5*players and finish the 2024 recruiting season with the rest being 4*'s. Sure, a 3* player or two may come in this year as well, but Oregon sure looks like a team that is going to grade out higher than 91.20 for the year. </p> <p> </p> <p> 14 now with 10 or so to go. Get 2 - 5*, 15 - 4*, and 4 - 3*, and this looks like an average 'Bama year in recruiting. Just sayin' </p> <p> </p> <p> I predict somewhere around 93 grade for the finish of the 2024 recruiting season. </p> In the latest recruiting rankings, Oregon has risen to #5. But, looking closer, this ranking is skewed. In my opinion, looking at the individual player grade is more accurate. Having 39 recruits but all 3* is NOT better than having 25 players all 4/5*. Quantity is NOT better than quality. Oregon has vaulted in both categories and its been enjoyable to watch. If we are to grade Oregon on player grade outs, then Oregon sits at #9. It doesn't matter how many kids but the quality of kid coming in. Take the quantity number and throw it in the trash can when it comes to rankings in the recruiting wars. For example: U$C sits at 91.59 but that's an average between having 2-4* and 1-3*. Or in other words 2-1 ratio. But, U$C only has 3 recruits. Not tearing up the recruiting season are they. The underlying current tells a below the surface story for Oregon though. Oregon, in no way possible, should be sitting with 14 commits and ranked with a 91.20 average player score...in MAY!!!! Yeah!! MAY!!! What is this telling me? IMO, Oregon is about to close on 2-4 5*players and finish the 2024 recruiting season with the rest being 4*'s. Sure, a 3* player or two may come in this year as well, but Oregon sure looks like a team that is going to grade out higher than 91.20 for the year. 14 now with 10 or so to go. Get 2 - 5*, 15 - 4*, and 4 - 3*, and this looks like an average 'Bama year in recruiting. Just sayin' I predict somewhere around 93 grade for the finish of the 2024 recruiting season. Edited May 22, 20232 yr by 1Funduck
May 22, 20232 yr Tandaian May 22, 20232 yr #-48 <div class="ipsRichEmbed" style="max-width:500px;border:1px solid rgba(0,0,0,0.1);"> <div class="ipsRichEmbed_masthead ipsRichEmbed_mastheadBg ipsType_center"> <a href="https://saturdayblitz.com/2023/05/22/oregon-football-is-killing-it-on-the-recruiting-trail-after-another-commitment/" style='background-image:url("https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/fetch/w_2000,h_2000,c_fit/https%3A%2F%2Fsaturdayblitz.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fimagn-images%2F2017%2F07%2F19424351.jpeg");background-position:center;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:cover;height:120px;' rel="external nofollow"><img alt="https%3A%2F%2Fsaturdayblitz.com%2Fwp-con" class="ipsHide" src="https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/fetch/w_2000,h_2000,c_fit/https%3A%2F%2Fsaturdayblitz.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fimagn-images%2F2017%2F07%2F19424351.jpeg" loading="lazy"> </a> </div> <div style="padding:10px;"> <h3 class="ipsRichEmbed_itemTitle ipsTruncate ipsTruncate_line ipsType_blendLinks"> <span><img style="width:16px;height:16px;border:0;" alt="logo_saturdayblitz-com__300x300.png" src="https://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/assets/site_images/college/saturdayblitz/logo_saturdayblitz-com__300x300.png" loading="lazy"></span> <a href="https://saturdayblitz.com/2023/05/22/oregon-football-is-killing-it-on-the-recruiting-trail-after-another-commitment/" style="text-decoration:none;margin-bottom:5px;" title="Oregon Football is killing it on the recruiting trail after another commitment" rel="external nofollow">Oregon Football is killing it on the recruiting trail after another commitment</a> </h3> <div class="ipsType_light"> SATURDAYBLITZ.COM </div> <hr class="ipsHr"> <div class="ipsSpacer_top ipsSpacer_half"> <span>Oregon football is having a really strong month and landing its fourth commitment on Monday which will move the Ducks into the top five of 247 team ranking...</span> </div> </div> </div> <p> </p> Oregon Football is killing it on the recruiting trail after another commitment SATURDAYBLITZ.COM Oregon football is having a really strong month and landing its fourth commitment on Monday which will move the Ducks into the top five of 247 team ranking...
May 22, 20232 yr Moderator NJDuck May 22, 20232 yr #-48 <p> </p> <p> <span style="font-size:22px;"><strong>On3 Recruiting Prediction Machine: Oregon leading with a handful of major targets</strong></span> </p> <div style="color:#a2a9ad;font-size:12px;"> </div> <p> </p> <div class="ipsRichEmbed" style="max-width:500px;border:1px solid rgba(0,0,0,0.1);"> <div class="ipsRichEmbed_masthead ipsRichEmbed_mastheadBg ipsType_center"> <a href="https://t.co/qdVt18m4Af" style='background-image:url("https://on3static.com/uploads/dev/assets/cms/2023/05/21095218/oregon-afi.png");background-position:center;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:cover;height:120px;' rel="external nofollow"><img alt="oregon-afi.png" class="ipsHide" src="https://on3static.com/uploads/dev/assets/cms/2023/05/21095218/oregon-afi.png" loading="lazy"> </a> </div> <div style="padding:10px;"> <h3 class="ipsRichEmbed_itemTitle ipsTruncate ipsTruncate_line ipsType_blendLinks"> <span><img style="width:16px;height:16px;border:0;" alt="apple-touch-icon-180x180.png" src="https://on3static.com/static/on3/touch-icons/apple-touch-icon-180x180.png" loading="lazy"></span> <a href="https://t.co/qdVt18m4Af" style="text-decoration:none;margin-bottom:5px;" title="Oregon Football: Ducks trending with multiple top recruiting targets" rel="external nofollow">Oregon Football: Ducks trending with multiple top recruiting targets</a> </h3> <div class="ipsType_light"> T.CO </div> <hr class="ipsHr"> <div class="ipsSpacer_top ipsSpacer_half"> <span>Oregon holds the No. 8 class in the On3 Industry Football Team Recruiting Rankings, and the Ducks are trending for more top targets.</span> </div> </div> </div> <p> </p> On3 Recruiting Prediction Machine: Oregon leading with a handful of major targets Oregon Football: Ducks trending with multiple top recruiting targets T.CO Oregon holds the No. 8 class in the On3 Industry Football Team Recruiting Rankings, and the Ducks are trending for more top targets.
May 22, 20232 yr Administrator Charles Fischer May 22, 20232 yr #-48 <blockquote class="ipsQuote" data-gramm="false" data-ipsquote="" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic" data-ipsquote-contentcommentid="91481" data-ipsquote-contentid="10297" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-timestamp="1684779016" data-ipsquote-userid="167" data-ipsquote-username="1Funduck"> <div class="ipsQuote_citation"> On 5/22/2023 at 11:10 AM, 1Funduck said: </div> <div class="ipsQuote_contents ipsClearfix" data-gramm="false"> <p> Quantity is NOT better than quality. </p> </div> </blockquote> <p> Agreed. That is why my own subjective way of looking at it is....<em>"how many <strong>4/5-Star</strong> recruits on <strong>Rivals</strong> are there in the class?"</em> Whether it is <strong>15</strong> out of 30, or <strong>15</strong> out of 20....I look at the number of quality recruits. </p> <p> </p> <p> Years ago Stanford had a class that only had 15 commits, and it was given a so-so ranking due to the low number. But it was high quality, and many went on to NFL careers and that group gave Oregon trouble. </p> <p> </p> <p> Right now Oregon has <u><em><strong><a href="https://oregon.rivals.com/commitments/football/2024" rel="external nofollow">14 verbals</a></strong></em></u>, but <strong>NINE</strong> are the <em><strong>4/5-Star</strong></em> recruits. We are headed to a very good class! </p> <p> </p> <p> <a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" data-fileext="JPG" data-fileid="3641" href="<fileStore.core_Attachment>/monthly_2023_05/JT_DSC_0557.JPG.25be3f261977ee3fbed1a3236b6a4429.JPG" rel=""><img alt="JT_DSC_0557.JPG" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" data-fileid="3641" data-unique="jzdgcwj0l" style="height: auto;" width="600" src="<fileStore.core_Attachment>/monthly_2023_05/JT_DSC_0557.thumb.JPG.6e13816e4159c50d1aa1685e7186911b.JPG" loading="lazy" height="396"></a> </p> On 5/22/2023 at 11:10 AM, 1Funduck said: Quantity is NOT better than quality. Agreed. That is why my own subjective way of looking at it is...."how many 4/5-Star recruits on Rivals are there in the class?" Whether it is 15 out of 30, or 15 out of 20....I look at the number of quality recruits. Years ago Stanford had a class that only had 15 commits, and it was given a so-so ranking due to the low number. But it was high quality, and many went on to NFL careers and that group gave Oregon trouble. Right now Oregon has 14 verbals, but NINE are the 4/5-Star recruits. We are headed to a very good class! Mr. FishDuck
May 23, 20232 yr Moderator Jon Joseph May 23, 20232 yr #-48 <p> Dan. has the first part down. You have to bring in big-time recruits. </p> <p> </p> <p> As I have mentioned before, no school without a Blue Chip Roster (BCR) won a BCS title and to date, no team without a BCR has won a playoff title. </p> <p> </p> <p> BCR = at least 50% of the roster being made up of 4* and 5* recruits. </p> <p> </p> <div class="ipsRichEmbed" style="max-width:500px;border:1px solid rgba(0,0,0,0.1);"> <div class="ipsRichEmbed_masthead ipsRichEmbed_mastheadBg ipsType_center"> <a href="https://duckswire.usatoday.com/2023/05/22/dan-lanning-is-one-coach-on-the-verge-of-winning-first-national-title/?newsletter_origin=duckswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=3&email=emailaddr" style='background-image:url("https://duckswire.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/101/2022/12/USATSI_19692138.jpg?w=640");background-position:center;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:cover;height:120px;' rel="external nofollow"><img alt="USATSI_19692138.jpg?w=640" class="ipsHide" src="https://duckswire.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/101/2022/12/USATSI_19692138.jpg?w=640" loading="lazy"> </a> </div> <div style="padding:10px;"> <h3 class="ipsRichEmbed_itemTitle ipsTruncate ipsTruncate_line ipsType_blendLinks"> <span><img alt="6554b6be8c0d829a8bf63ae0c82cf121_link.pn" src="<___base_url___>/uploads/set_resources_6/6554b6be8c0d829a8bf63ae0c82cf121_link.png" loading="lazy"></span> <a href="https://duckswire.usatoday.com/2023/05/22/dan-lanning-is-one-coach-on-the-verge-of-winning-first-national-title/?newsletter_origin=duckswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=3&email=emailaddr" style="text-decoration:none;margin-bottom:5px;" title="Dan Lanning is one coach on the verge of winning first national title" rel="external nofollow">Dan Lanning is one coach on the verge of winning first national title</a> </h3> <div class="ipsType_light"> DUCKSWIRE.USATODAY.COM </div> <hr class="ipsHr"> <div class="ipsSpacer_top ipsSpacer_half"> <span>Will Dan Lanning bring a national championship to Oregon? According to 247Sports, he isn’t far away.</span> </div> </div> </div> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> Dan. has the first part down. You have to bring in big-time recruits. As I have mentioned before, no school without a Blue Chip Roster (BCR) won a BCS title and to date, no team without a BCR has won a playoff title. BCR = at least 50% of the roster being made up of 4* and 5* recruits. Dan Lanning is one coach on the verge of winning first national title DUCKSWIRE.USATODAY.COM Will Dan Lanning bring a national championship to Oregon? According to 247Sports, he isn’t far away.
May 23, 20232 yr Author 1Funduck May 23, 20232 yr #-48 <p> I've got this weird feeling that Oregon just might get more than 2 5* kids this year. The vibe with all these kids is incredible. </p> <p> </p> <p> I say 'weird' because this is uncharted territory. This highly graded, so early in the year, recruiting class, with a powerful lineup to finish even stronger than what we have on board right now!!! 91.20 average ranking is nothing to sneeze at. Its already a Blue chip laden class. Just Wow!! </p> I've got this weird feeling that Oregon just might get more than 2 5* kids this year. The vibe with all these kids is incredible. I say 'weird' because this is uncharted territory. This highly graded, so early in the year, recruiting class, with a powerful lineup to finish even stronger than what we have on board right now!!! 91.20 average ranking is nothing to sneeze at. Its already a Blue chip laden class. Just Wow!!
May 23, 20232 yr Moderator Jon Joseph May 23, 20232 yr #-48 <blockquote class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote="" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic" data-ipsquote-contentcommentid="91555" data-ipsquote-contentid="10297" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-timestamp="1684852160" data-ipsquote-userid="167" data-ipsquote-username="1Funduck"> <div class="ipsQuote_citation"> On 5/23/2023 at 10:29 AM, 1Funduck said: </div> <div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p> I've got this weird feeling that Oregon just might get more than 2 5* kids this year. The vibe with all these kids is incredible. </p> <p> </p> <p> I say 'weird' because this is uncharted territory. This highly graded, so early in the year, recruiting class, with a powerful lineup to finish even stronger than what we have on board right now!!! 91.20 average ranking is nothing to sneeze at. Its already a Blue chip laden class. Just Wow!! </p> </div> </blockquote> <p> A lot of this depends on the site doing the rankings. </p> <p> </p> <p> I like that Charles uses Rivals but Rivals is often a tougher grader than the 247 composite rankings. </p> <p> </p> <p> Of course, at the end of the day, all of the highly-ranked kids arrive with potential and they have to be coached up. </p> On 5/23/2023 at 10:29 AM, 1Funduck said: I've got this weird feeling that Oregon just might get more than 2 5* kids this year. The vibe with all these kids is incredible. I say 'weird' because this is uncharted territory. This highly graded, so early in the year, recruiting class, with a powerful lineup to finish even stronger than what we have on board right now!!! 91.20 average ranking is nothing to sneeze at. Its already a Blue chip laden class. Just Wow!! A lot of this depends on the site doing the rankings. I like that Charles uses Rivals but Rivals is often a tougher grader than the 247 composite rankings. Of course, at the end of the day, all of the highly-ranked kids arrive with potential and they have to be coached up.
May 23, 20232 yr Administrator Charles Fischer May 23, 20232 yr #-48 <blockquote class="ipsQuote" data-gramm="false" data-ipsquote="" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic" data-ipsquote-contentcommentid="91557" data-ipsquote-contentid="10297" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-timestamp="1684853946" data-ipsquote-userid="241" data-ipsquote-username="Jon Joseph"> <div class="ipsQuote_citation"> On 5/23/2023 at 7:59 AM, Jon Joseph said: </div> <div class="ipsQuote_contents ipsClearfix" data-gramm="false"> <p> I like that Charles uses Rivals but Rivals is often a tougher grader than the 247 composite rankings. </p> </div> </blockquote> <p> Thank you, and another major element is the <strong>historical consistency</strong> of the rankings. With <em>Rivals</em>...I can compare to prior classes and know there is consistency. ESPN does not have it down even now, and 247 bought their historical stats from Scout.com, whom was owned by a Husky. Oregon verbals consistently got downgraded once they committed to Oregon under that group rankings. </p> <p> </p> <p> 247 has good rankings now, although easier to get to 4/5-Star than Rivals, but often the team rankings come out very similar at the end the year between 247 and Rivals. It is just that for my subjective analysis of recruiting classes...I need to know how many 4/5-Star players there are in this class, and when looking back in Oregon's recruiting history to compare prior classes--I know those numbers are not skewed by a damn Husky. Thus why I use <em>Rivals.</em>.. </p> On 5/23/2023 at 7:59 AM, Jon Joseph said: I like that Charles uses Rivals but Rivals is often a tougher grader than the 247 composite rankings. Thank you, and another major element is the historical consistency of the rankings. With Rivals...I can compare to prior classes and know there is consistency. ESPN does not have it down even now, and 247 bought their historical stats from Scout.com, whom was owned by a Husky. Oregon verbals consistently got downgraded once they committed to Oregon under that group rankings. 247 has good rankings now, although easier to get to 4/5-Star than Rivals, but often the team rankings come out very similar at the end the year between 247 and Rivals. It is just that for my subjective analysis of recruiting classes...I need to know how many 4/5-Star players there are in this class, and when looking back in Oregon's recruiting history to compare prior classes--I know those numbers are not skewed by a damn Husky. Thus why I use Rivals... Mr. FishDuck
May 23, 20232 yr woundedknees May 23, 20232 yr #-48 <p> Whatever happened to poor Ruth? </p> Whatever happened to poor Ruth?
May 24, 20232 yr Moderator Jon Joseph May 24, 20232 yr #-48 <div class="ipsRichEmbed" style="max-width:500px;border:1px solid rgba(0,0,0,0.1);"> <div class="ipsRichEmbed_masthead ipsRichEmbed_mastheadBg ipsType_center"> <a href="https://duckswire.usatoday.com/2023/05/23/oregon-2024-lb-target-bumped-up-to-5-star-status/?newsletter_origin=duckswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=4&email=emailaddr" style='background-image:url("https://duckswire.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/101/2023/03/DucksWire_RN2.png?w=640");background-position:center;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:cover;height:120px;' rel="external nofollow"><img alt="DucksWire_RN2.png?w=640" class="ipsHide" src="https://duckswire.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/101/2023/03/DucksWire_RN2.png?w=640" loading="lazy"> </a> </div> <div style="padding:10px;"> <h3 class="ipsRichEmbed_itemTitle ipsTruncate ipsTruncate_line ipsType_blendLinks"> <span><img alt="6554b6be8c0d829a8bf63ae0c82cf121_link.pn" src="<___base_url___>/uploads/set_resources_6/6554b6be8c0d829a8bf63ae0c82cf121_link.png" loading="lazy"></span> <a href="https://duckswire.usatoday.com/2023/05/23/oregon-2024-lb-target-bumped-up-to-5-star-status/?newsletter_origin=duckswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=4&email=emailaddr" style="text-decoration:none;margin-bottom:5px;" title="Oregon Recruiting: Ducks top LB target receives 5-star status" rel="external nofollow">Oregon Recruiting: Ducks top LB target receives 5-star status</a> </h3> <div class="ipsType_light"> DUCKSWIRE.USATODAY.COM </div> <hr class="ipsHr"> <div class="ipsSpacer_top ipsSpacer_half"> <span>Oregon 2024 LB target bumped up to 5-star status</span> </div> </div> </div> <p> </p> Oregon Recruiting: Ducks top LB target receives 5-star status DUCKSWIRE.USATODAY.COM Oregon 2024 LB target bumped up to 5-star status
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