Solar No. 50 Share Posted Friday at 12:22 AM On 1/7/2025 at 4:49 PM, Charles Fischer said: Wives often don't like men to have hobbies, and will discourage them from taking part or at the minimum--frown on the "wasted time." If my "ex" had her way, FishDuck.com would have been shut down years ago, and the Our Beloved Ducks forum would have never been begun. Did I listen to her? Charles admits he picked OBD over his wife. Does it get any more dedicated than that?! LoL My wife's coming, gotta go... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Administrator No. 51 Share Posted Friday at 12:27 AM On 1/9/2025 at 4:22 PM, Solar said: Charles admits he picked OBD over his wife. No, I did not say that. It was not the reason for our parting, but I know it was an irritant for her. 1 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDuck No. 52 Share Posted Friday at 03:17 AM "8 sacks 13 tackles for loss, not sure anything else mattered. Oh and minus yards rushing." I read somewhere. Don't know if it is accurate. Ohio State blitzed 3 times. The results in quotes were mano-oh-mano D-line vs Oregon O-line. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Ducker1 No. 53 Share Posted Friday at 04:40 AM Ive lost 3 girlfriends and one wife that were less heartbreaking than that lost to Stanford back in 2012. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDuck No. 54 Share Posted Friday at 05:03 PM There was an interesting column on January 9 in The Athletic (paysite) about what Ohio State did differently on defense after the October game. One stat of interest about the Rose Bowl was defensive looks that forced Gabriel to hold the ball about one-second longer than in October which led to more negative yardage plays, sacks. In addition to changing looks in the OSU secondary, just better play from OSU D-linemen. The Ohio State position group that should have College Football Playoff rivals scared WWW.NYTIMES.COM Ohio State's stars are finally showing up in the biggest moments and Jim Knowles' defensive scheme is working. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utki No. 55 Share Posted Friday at 06:28 PM On 1/7/2025 at 7:06 PM, Annie said: Hey! Overgeneralization here! Nah, mostly true. Of course exceptions exist but mostly true. Why? Who knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 56 Share Posted Friday at 06:40 PM (edited) On 1/10/2025 at 12:03 PM, HDuck said: There was an interesting column on January 9 in The Athletic (paysite) about what Ohio State did differently on defense after the October game. One stat of interest about the Rose Bowl was defensive looks that forced Gabriel to hold the ball about one-second longer than in October which led to more negative yardage plays, sacks. In addition to changing looks in the OSU secondary, just better play from OSU D-linemen. The Ohio State position group that should have College Football Playoff rivals scared WWW.NYTIMES.COM Ohio State's stars are finally showing up in the biggest moments and Jim Knowles' defensive scheme is working. Perhaps not having Oregon’s best deep threat hurt here, just as much as anything Ohio State was doing? Evan Stewart absolutely torched the Ohio State defensive backs in the first game. Or maybe it wouldn’t have mattered because Oregon’s offensive line was so bad. Edited Friday at 06:41 PM by OregonDucks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckhart2 No. 57 Share Posted Friday at 06:47 PM To me there had to be something other than what Lanning said "just wasn't our day"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kamikaze Kid Moderator No. 58 Share Posted Friday at 08:04 PM Sure would be nice to have our top receivers available when we play osu2 in the post season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck Moderator No. 59 Share Posted Friday at 08:29 PM On 1/10/2025 at 10:40 AM, OregonDucks said: Perhaps not having Oregon’s best deep threat hurt here, just as much as anything Ohio State was doing? Evan Stewart absolutely torched the Ohio State defensive backs in the first game. Or maybe it wouldn't have mattered because Oregon's offensive line was so bad. Basic scheming shows that not having to deal with Stewart stretching the field took away a lot of what Tez could do so well. It's also true that when a team loses it will make more adjustments than will the team that won. Not having Stewart wasn't something Ohio State did, but Chip and the offense "opened the playbook" a lot more than it was in the first game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckHeart No. 60 Share Posted Friday at 11:12 PM On 1/10/2025 at 12:29 PM, 30Duck said: Basic scheming shows that not having to deal with Stewart stretching the field took away a lot of what Tez could do so well. It's also true that when a team loses it will make more adjustments than will the team that won. Not having Stewart wasn't something Ohio State did, but Chip and the offense "opened the playbook" a lot more than it was in the first game. OSU collapsed the pocket and at the same time kept Gabriel from running. Gabriel was tackled 12 times for minus 43 yards, this includes both sacks and intentional runs. How many passes were batted down? I think eight or nine. I don't see how Stewart would have made much difference---Gabriel would have not have had the time to throw to him deep, he would have been on his rear end. Jim Knowles (OSU's DC) out schemed and out coached Will Stein---by a lot. Makes sense. Knowles is 59 and has coached 35 years with around 20 years as a DC. Stein is 35 and has coached 11 years. He has very limited OC experience, two years at a Texas high school, one year as co-OC at UTSA and the last two years at Oregon. On the other side, you know Chip's background as both an OC and head coach both in college and the NFL. Tosh Lupoi, kind of, has two years of DC at Alabama (that is being generous) and two years at Oregon. It is not clear to me whether DL is really the DC or how co-DC Chris Hampton fits in. Regardless, Oregon was way out coached on that side as well. The good news is that Oregon's young coaching staff should get better. The biggest question is whether they will learn and grow. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 61 Share Posted Friday at 11:31 PM On 1/10/2025 at 6:12 PM, DuckHeart said: OSU collapsed the pocket and at the same time kept Gabriel from running. Gabriel was tackled 12 times for minus 43 yards, this includes both sacks and intentional runs. How many passes were batted down? I think eight or nine. I don't see how Stewart would have made much difference---Gabriel would have not have had the time to throw to him deep, he would have been on his rear end. Jim Knowles (OSU's DC) out schemed and out coached Will Stein---by a lot. Makes sense. Knowles is 59 and has coached 35 years with around 20 years as a DC. Stein is 35 and has coached 11 years. He has very limited OC experience, two years at a Texas high school, one year as co-OC at UTSA and the last two years at Oregon. On the other side, you know Chip's background as both an OC and head coach both in college and the NFL. Tosh Lupoi, kind of, has two years of DC at Alabama (that is being generous) and two years at Oregon. It is not clear to me whether DL is really the DC or how co-DC Chris Hampton fits in. Regardless, Oregon was way out coached on that side as well. The good news is that Oregon's young coaching staff should get better. The biggest question is whether they will learn and grow. Or learn and leave. I know that Coach Lanning likes young coaches, who can recruit. They can relate better to the players but is he willing to get out coached in big games against more experienced coordinators? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Administrator No. 62 Share Posted Friday at 11:40 PM On 1/10/2025 at 3:12 PM, DuckHeart said: I don't see how Stewart would have made much difference---Gabriel would have not have had the time to throw to him deep, he would have been on his rear end. We will disagree. All Dillon needed was 2.4 seconds to throw a lofter, and let Stewart come down with it or the penalty. I will agree that Chip Kelly out-schemed us, I believe we could have stayed in scoring reach with Stewart. The difference is beyond immeasurable. Stewart threatens deep, mid-range opens up for Tez, and osu2 can't crowd the short zones. Match scoring, and we still have a running game....which also changes the defensive line surge and the game. You can't take away the most consequential former 5-Star, (who runs in the 4.30s) and not have any difference. And he can get open on the best of their corners on shorter routes.. 1 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDuck No. 63 Share Posted Saturday at 12:36 AM agree with DuckHeart: OSU collapsed the pocket and at the same time kept Gabriel from running. Gabriel was tackled 12 times for minus 43 yards, this includes both sacks and intentional runs. How many passes were batted down? I think eight or nine. I don't see how Stewart would have made much difference---Gabriel would have not have had the time to throw to him deep, he would have been on his rear end. Gabriel was under immediate pressure following the snap, and being short not only had passes batted down, but had too little time to spot receivers even if Stewart had been playing. Whether having James available would have made a slight difference is hard to contemplate. Falling behind so significantly, so quickly, also eliminated playbook options that are still available with a more narrow deficit. Ohio State came out with their hair on fire, while the Ducks appeared to be on hold waiting for the barber to answer his phone. After the first 19-1/2 minutes it was 24-0. The Ducks four possessions were punt, punt, punt, downs - 60 yds gained followed by 5th and 6th possessions of 3 and out each . On Oregon’s first four drives had the following pass attempts: -5 yd gain -5 yd gain but no first down because lost yds on earlier run -2-yd gain -incomplete 4 yd pass -incomplete 7 yd pass -3 yd gain -9 yd gain -DB knocked down -6 yd gain -12 yd gain -5 yd gain - DB knocked down There was no time to look deeper because Ohio State was in Gabriels's grill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Administrator No. 64 Share Posted Saturday at 12:41 AM To me, it is completely obvious. We don't go three and out on so many in the beginning with him there. Without him--everything changes. Perhaps next year you will see what I mean, but I am sure most everyone in the forum will forget this discussion. So we disagree--no sweat. 1 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDuck No. 65 Share Posted Saturday at 01:18 AM I don't think the Ducks will be playing the same Ohio State defense in the same setting next season, so comparisons would not be valid. But, if the Ducks were doing so, Stewart still wouldn't be open soon enough for Gabriel to find him. Gabriel had no time even if Jerry Rice had been his wide receiver. No sweat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck Moderator No. 66 Share Posted Saturday at 01:31 AM On 1/10/2025 at 5:18 PM, HDuck said: don't think the Ducks will be playing the same Ohio State defense in the same setting next season, Looking forward to seeing Ohio State next Season in the B1G CCG, will OBD want to win? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
