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Some excellent analysis here. Swing Away! 

 

 

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Ranking the players and coaches with the potential to dramatically alter the College Football Playoff picture in 2025.

 

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Question for ESPN's Preseason Top 25 Teams.

 

 

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Our college football experts list out the biggest spring question for each Way-Too-Early Top 25 team.

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CBS has a Question for Every B1G Team.

 

 

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Quarterback questions always dominate spring, but there's a ton of hype around Underwood's arrival

 

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Moore has a year of development in the system with really good players around him. Just the upgrade at the O line could cut the INTs in half, if I remember correctly he was under pressure a lot. Even mediocre QBs can look good with a stout O line but if he has time to throw down field this Offense could become a nightmare to hold down.

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On 3/11/2025 at 3:49 PM, Dave23 said:

Moore has a year of development in the system with really good players around him. Just the upgrade at the O line could cut the INTs in half, if I remember correctly he was under pressure a lot. Even mediocre QBs can look good with a stout O line but if he has time to throw down field this Offense could become a nightmare to hold down.

 

Dave, good call and recall. Dante was not under pressure at UCLA, he was under siege. 😩

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On 3/11/2025 at 1:26 PM, Jon Joseph said:

 

Dave, good call and recall. Dante was not under pressure at UCLA, he was under siege. 😩

I agree with this, but from what I saw....he did NOT have good pocket presence, a feel for the pressure.  Instead of stepping up in the pocket, he often stood there flat-footed and got creamed.  I am sure he has learned and improved...

 

But he CAN throw the ball!

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On 3/11/2025 at 3:18 PM, Charles Fischer said:

I agree with this, but from what I saw....he did NOT have good pocket presence, a feel for the pressure.  Instead of stepping up in the pocket, he often stood there flat-footed and got creamed.  I am sure he has learned and improved...

 

But he CAN throw the ball!

Let's hope so, to be honest I didn't watch a whole lot of UCLA games when he was there and highlights can be deceiving. I do remember the deer in the headlights look though, fairly difficult for a freshman being fed to the wolves with no protection.

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I know I may reference him a bit too much; but, Hythloday over at ADQ has a long break down about DM's season at UCLA.

 

To summarize, as we all know, Chip was no fan of recruiting; and, towards the end of his tenure, by many appearances he sort of threw up the flag on OL recruiting; and, each season had become "I've got a full ride to UCLA and Westwood and Santa Monica and nearly any OL with a pulse wanting to transfer will be ok". He eventually found a few.

 

He wasn't that interested in OL talent when he wasn't attracting much and I imagine felt he could (mostly) outscheme nearly all deficiencies, primarily through a cutting edge run game and a passing set that wasn't much more complex than a really solid high school team (that is, significant passing routes at key times mostly only had one "live" passing route. If that route was unavailable the QB was to scramble. Worked well with Thompson-Robinson for a long time but was a poor fit for Moore).

 

From the article: "For the purposes of contextualizing Moore’s play in 2023, it’ll suffice to understand just two things about the surrounding offense Kelly put him in: first, the offensive line play was atrocious, as per usual Kelly did no recruiting or development and attempted to just plug in multiple poorly performing transfers with typical results."

 

When presented with the chance to move off DTR and develop a playbook for a potentially elite pocket passer? Chip mostly was checked out and wanting to either be fired or not asked back. He knew what he had and where it would go and was willing to cash the checks until UCLA stopped paying.

 

I've linked the analysis of Moore's season at UCLA before and anyone interested should check it out. From what I have seen, the UCLA tape actually looks promising. Of course, some struggles but a lot to like.

 

 

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Film review of Moore’s 2023 season at UCLA

 

 

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On 3/11/2025 at 3:55 PM, AnotherOD said:

I know I may reference him a bit too much; but, Hythloday over at ADQ has a long break down about DM's season at UCLA.

 

To summarize, as we all know, Chip was no fan of recruiting; and, towards the end of his tenure, by many appearances he sort of threw up the flag on OL recruiting; and, each season had become "I've got a full ride to UCLA and Westwood and Santa Monica and nearly any OL with a pulse wanting to transfer will be ok". He eventually found a few.

 

He wasn't that interested in OL talent when he wasn't attracting much and I imagine felt he could (mostly) outscheme nearly all deficiencies, primarily through a cutting edge run game and a passing set that wasn't much more complex than a really solid high school team (that is, significant passing routes at key times mostly only had one "live" passing route. If that route was unavailable the QB was to scramble. Worked well with Thompson-Robinson for a long time but was a poor fit for Moore).

 

From the article: "For the purposes of contextualizing Moore’s play in 2023, it’ll suffice to understand just two things about the surrounding offense Kelly put him in: first, the offensive line play was atrocious, as per usual Kelly did no recruiting or development and attempted to just plug in multiple poorly performing transfers with typical results."

 

When presented with the chance to move off DTR and develop a playbook for a potentially elite pocket passer? Chip mostly was checked out and wanting to either be fired or not asked back. He knew what he had and where it would go and was willing to cash the checks until UCLA stopped paying.

 

I've linked the analysis of Moore's season at UCLA before and anyone interested should check it out. From what I have seen, the UCLA tape actually looks promising. Of course, some struggles but a lot to like.

 

 

WWW.ADDICTEDTOQUACK.COM

Film review of Moore’s 2023 season at UCLA

 

 

I normally do not allow items to be linked here from ATQ, because they have a real hate for me over there, (I do NOT know why) and have written terrible things about me, our writers, and our audience.  I have no such beef with them, but I see no reason to promote a site that actively insults us on a regular basis.

 

Hythoday1 has taken many shots at our analyses done here at FishDuck.com in the past. I think his are great, I think ours are great as they both show different information.

 

But his are the best, and if you don't believe that....ask him.

 

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Hythloday1 is very thorough.  I really like his analysis.  He is more about statistical performance, but he provides an analysis that provides a keen sense of what is happening and what may happen.

 

It’s a shame he derides us here though, because I’ve learned more here than what he provides ( I overwhelmingly agree with his analysis skills and what he believes by the way).

 

I doubt I’d be the analyst I am without the feedback I see and sometimes receive on this site.  It is more insightful, more balanced, and frankly we like Hyrthoday, refuse to suck up for preference with the University.

 

More often than not, we have a vision other sites seriously lack.  And you can’t suck when you provide analysis here.  We might not run you out of town, but you’ll get dressed down if you offer up a weak analysis.

 

That’s why I don’t subscribe to other sites.  I’m not paying ten dollars a month to witness a bunch of ill written analysis that frankly sucks.  Though there are times I’d like to tell a bunch of weak analysts that insults and deflection is not an analysis.  
 

All I know is I’ve been dressed down, and frankly we are all stronger, better analysts because we have to present solid arguments here. 

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