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Oh Brother..."New Look" Pac-12 Invites Texas State, But...

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I am trying to figure out which is worse....adding Texas State to a conference, or calling the conference they are creating as the, "New Look Pac-12."  This label has popped up in several references by writers in the last two weeks, with John Canzano being one of the primary promoters of the label. (Of course)

 

I mean....how DO you portray the revised conference that is clearly much, much worse than the original....and everyone knows it?

 

Are you really trying to pretend

it is something better than it is?

 

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Mr. FishDuck

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They badly need to rebrand their logo as it is no longer even representative of the geographical locations for most of the schools! two total schools in the new conference can be considered as "mountain" schools (Colorado State, Utah State), yet it is one of the predominate features in the current PAC-12 logo. The new logo needs to be as boring as possible in order to properly highlight the generic, no-name places in each state that their respective schools call home!

 

And a name change to the Left Behind Land Grant State Schools Conference should be legally required!

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$ 7 to $ 10 Million a Year!

 

It Just Means Less!

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I am looking forward to seeing the football attendance for oac when a home slate includes Utah State and Texas State.  The only conference draws may be Boise and Fresno.  I predict a very New Mexico-like** late season attendance number of sub 20K for turds like TSU and USU.  CSU not much better.

 

**I admit I have a grad degree from UNM and attended a few sub 10K games while there.

 

I do not see the reasoning for not joining the MWC.  It would have been a much stronger conference than the Pac-Steight or the current MW.  

 

Beavernation needs a B-2 flyover and a bunkerbuster shot to the athletic department.  Of course Beaverbob will do a press conference and claim that there is nothing to see there.

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On 6/27/2025 at 10:17 AM, Jon Joseph said:

 

$ 7 to $ 10 Million a Year!

 

It Just Means Less!

I could see them getting 12 million if they embrace that 7pm time slot and play hardball with it. I could see ESPN and Fox being ok with that kind of payout if they get that time slot filled regularly. 

 

But I DOUBT the Scrap-12 will consider embracing the 7pm time slot and they will probably all see themselves worth 20mil and prime time slots. They are still pushing this notion that they are a Power Conference but they are G6. If they were smart they'd leverage their west coast time slot to their advantage. 

 

But if they were smart they would have used that Pac-12 war-chest they stole and bought their way into the Big 12. 

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On 6/27/2025 at 10:17 AM, DC Featherbutt said:

I am looking forward to seeing the football attendance for oac when a home slate includes Utah State and Texas State.  The only conference draws may be Boise and Fresno.  I predict a very New Mexico-like** late season attendance number of sub 20K for turds like TSU and USU.  CSU not much better.

Unless they're winning! In which attendance might be good because winning is still fun. 

 

And if they're winning they can dream of making the playoff... only to be outraged when they're snubbed. 

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On 6/27/2025 at 10:17 AM, DC Featherbutt said:

I do not see the reasoning for not joining the MWC. 

Because then the Pac-12 would have been dissolved with assets distributed equally among the 12 former members, and the Pig-2 couldn't have stolen 300 million from the other 10 former Pac-12 schools.

 

They had to retain the name...

 

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Omigosh. A little humor about the Pac-12 trying to add schools--from a writer at The Athletic...

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A comprehensive case for the Pac-12 ensuring all of its football members continue to have "State" in their names:
 
"The obvious next choice for Pac-12 expansion is Florida State.
 
"1. Adds the Florida footprint to the premier West Coast conference.
 
"2. A built-in rivalry with Fresno State. Who’s the REAL FSU??
 
"3. In their filing against the ACC, Florida State said they would have preferred adding Oregon State instead of Cal and Stanford. Now’s your chance, Noles.
 
"The answer is too obvious for it to ever happen, but as we have seen, the simplest solution is always the most elusive in college football." 
 
Tallahassee is very near the west coast of a coastal state, after all.
 

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There’s a reason they haven’t shared the details of the TV deal.
 

Some unknowns include if they paid extra to entice BSU and SDSU. Don’t forget to throw in Gonzaga getting a full share without a football team. The number I keep hearing is around $65M.


Whatever number for a TV deal is finally released is not going to be as clean as dividing by 8.

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