This is what I hear all the time guys. Just so you know what those in the SEC bubble think, what Pawl FineBoom serves everyday.

Demand your leadership to stay strong. Don't give in.

Thanks for sharing. Hilarious. The data is all skewed by the subjective rankings.

Somebody should tell this guy the BIG went 5-1 against the SEC in the post season last year (2-0 in the playoffs, and 3-1 in bowls).

Props to Florida for playing Miami and FSU out of conference. They don’t need to change anything. The rest of the SEC though?

I hope Petitti holds strong and sits on his hands and keeps the playoff in the current format. Because of the skewed rankings, it’s the middle SEC teams that will suffer the most if the playoff is not expanded to 16 teams. He needs to force them to play 9 conference games.

I know everybody gives Bama grief about their soft non-conference schedule, but they always schedule a FBS team out of conference. In the past 10 seasons they have played the following non-SEC FBS teams. They may not have been very good teams, but they didn't know that when the schedules were made.

2015 - Wisconsin

2016 - USC

2017 - Florida State

2018 - Louisville

2019 - Duke

2020 - COVID, they play ell SEC teams

2021 - Miami

2022 - Texas

2023 - Texas

2024 - Wisconsin

10 minutes ago, DrJacksPlaidPants said:

I know everybody gives Bama grief about their soft non-conference schedule, but they always schedule a FBS team out of conference. In the past 10 seasons they have played the following non-SEC FBS teams. They may not have been very good teams, but they didn't know that when the schedules were made.

2015 - Wisconsin

2016 - USC

2017 - Florida State

2018 - Louisville

2019 - Duke

2020 - COVID, they play ell SEC teams

2021 - Miami

2022 - Texas

2023 - Texas

2024 - Wisconsin

I think the SEC gets into lala land because the rest of the league see themselves as being Alabama’s equal the last 10 years. They aren’t. Alabama was an absolute freak show.

If Alabama and USC (west coast USC) swapped their history over the last decade, how different would the narrative be?

Edited yesterday at 04:15 PM1 day by JabbaNoBargain

2 minutes ago, JabbaNoBargain said:

I think the SEC gets into lala land because the rest of the league see themselves as being Alabama’s equal the last 10 years.

This is what SMU Coach Lashlee said. Of course, PAWL ranted and raved, deflected the point by bringing up the past about SMU.

5 minutes ago, JabbaNoBargain said:

If Alabama and USC (west coast USC) swapped their history over the last decade, how different would the narrative be?

A fascinating thought. USC-Carroll was pretty hot. But I don't think any team from the west coast would generate the heat an SEC team does. "They do want it more" USC alone splits the local attention with UCLA, the Rams, the Chargers, the Dodgers, Lakers, Clippers, the beaches. Alabama?

2 hours ago, GeotechDuck said:

Thanks for sharing. Hilarious. The data is all skewed by the subjective rankings.

Somebody should tell this guy the BIG went 5-1 against the SEC in the post season last year (2-0 in the playoffs, and 3-1 in bowls).

Props to Florida for playing Miami and FSU out of conference. They don’t need to change anything. The rest of the SEC though?

I'm tired of the narrative that adding one extra conference game would get SEC coaches fired. What? You expect me to believe Lane Kiffin, Shane Beamer, Sam Pittman, Eli Drinkowitz, or Billy Napier would be fired because of one extra loss a year? Especially if more teams get playoff spots? That's a bull crap excuse and anybody with a brain capable of any deductive reasoning would see that.

Beating LSU and Ole Miss saved Napier(that and DJ Lagway).

The nerve of this guy saying Pettiti is a pariah and not good at math or common sense because he is holding Sankey accountable for an agreement they had for the B1G to go with the SEC preferred playoff format as long as the SEC goes to 9 conference games, before backing out because SEC coaches said it was impossible. It's bull, and Alabama, Miss State, Ole Miss, and most SEC teams need the money more than the bigger and more prestigious B1G institutions.

"The SEC..It just means more!!" More whining and complaining? The best coaches and players on the best programs are scared of one extra game? If it was my coach saying that while making millions,I would fire him for that alone.

Texas, Florida, Georgia, Texas A&M, and I think Tennessee are the only SEC institutions with the academic prestige and donor list to keep up. The SEC relies on football to pay its bills. The B1G is a much better run and well financed league. I'm kind of embarrassed how uneducated some of these guys are. The guy in the video isn't dumb, he's just brainwashed.

Please hold the line. I want my fellow SEC fans to wake up from the propaganda. It will give us more great games.

10 minutes ago, GatOrlando said:

and anybody with a brain capable of any deductive reasoning would see that.

Ah, that's the rub. How many of the bunch on the You Tube show, or the ones that call PAWL do a lot of deductive reasoning?

Thank you for the post and thanks to all of the terrific comments.

30 Duck has posted the learned SEC 'journalists' not-surprising knee-jerk reaction to Rhett Lashlee's comments about the SEC being top-heavy. Rhett is an SEC homeboy. Before he took the head coaching job at SMU, he played QB at Arkansas and coached in the SEC. Of course, Paul et al went ballistic over Rhett's comments. But facts are stubborn things.

Paul, what pray tell does SMU getting the NCAA death penalty way back when have to do with college football in 2025? I guess Tennessee recently being sanctioned for running a pre-NIL pay-for-play program just means less?

Lashlee correctly noted that six SEC teams have won titles since 1964. One heck of an achievement. Bama captured 15 of the championships. Paul guessed Bama had won 11 since 1964. Before Paul attacked Lashlee, he might have done a brief amount of research on the issue. Bama has won 15 titles since 1964.

Lashlee's statement is factual. As others have noted on the Forum, many SEC fans ride the success of Bama and other SEC football champs, which is fine. There's nothing wrong with evidencing regional pride in the SEC, especially in a region with more college fans than pro sports fans. But the numbers don't lie; like the B1G and the majority of conferences, the SEC is top-heavy.

Not every SEC team plays a gauntlet like no other. In 2025, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Purdue, and Rutgers have more difficult conference schedules than Missouri, Tennessee, and Ole Miss.

If you use the FPI preseason ranking that has 13 of the 16 SEC teams ranked in the top 25, every conference game will be a top 25 versus top 25 contest except when Arkansas, Mississippi State, and Vanderbilt play one another.

The majority of 'sports journalists' don't question Sankey's use of the biased FPI to justify the eight-game schedule. Sankey is a hero for supporting a 5-11 format, and Petitti is a greedy SOB for wanting a format with automatic qualifiers, a format that reflects the state of today's game, and a format that limits the power of a committee that does its business in the dark. A committee that SEC folks and ESPN talking heads vilified in 2024 for excluding 3-loss SEC teams.

With a 5-11 format, the committee would be deciding on 11 and not seven at large participants. Is the committee roasted by Sankey roasted in 2024 now trustworthy? Why?

The attacks on Tony Petitti are vile and viral. No other conference commissioner has Petitti's educational and business background. Tony and the B12's Brett Yormark (another inconvenient fact that is rarely reported) want teams competing for the same prize to play the same number of conference games. This is 'radical?' This is 'unfair?'

When it comes to the bottom line, as it does in every business, the B1G is in the lead. Despite all of the populist support for the 5-11 format, the 'little guy' will never win a title. Despite the pounding Petitti is taking, the B1G is in the financial driver's seat.

The SEC's deal with ESPN runs through the 2033-34 season. The B1G will have negotiated a new media deal in 2030, which will only increase the B1G's bottom-line advantage. If Sankey wants to stay with an 8-game conference schedule and a 12-team playoff, that's just fine. 🤑

1 hour ago, JabbaNoBargain said:

I think the SEC gets into lala land because the rest of the league see themselves as being Alabama’s equal the last 10 years. They aren’t. Alabama was an absolute freak show.

If Alabama and USC (west coast USC) swapped their history over the last decade, how different would the narrative be?

Great point. Look at Gus Malzhan. He was fired mainly because he didn't beat Bama enough. Looking back, his 3-5 record against Saban was better than any other coach in the SEC during Saban's time in Tuscaloosa. The next closest was Les Miles at 3-7.

2 hours ago, GatOrlando said:

"The SEC..It just means more!!"

Right.

And in the B1G...we get PAID more!

Looking at last season: The 4 extra at large teams would have been South Carolina, Ole Miss, Alabama and Miami. That is 3 SEC teams that would have qualified for the playoff in the final 4 slots. All with 3 or more losses, all while only playing 8 conference games and a bunch of FCS schools.

Because of the skewed rankings and 8 game conference schedule, those three SEC teams had a huge, unfair advantage over Illinois, who was also 10-3 but had to play 11 power 4 schools last year.

Then Illinois went out and beat South Carolina in the post season. There is no doubt in my mind that Illinois was a better football team than South Carolina last year, but they would have been left out due to unbalanced schedule and media narrative.

I won’t even bring up the fact that 8-5 Michigan beat Alabama. Or the fact that the SEC had a losing record in the playoff and has not made the finals in 2 years.

Petitti should never agree to 5+11 without everyone playing 9 conference games. In a 5+11 model, the BIG in most cases is going to be on the outside looking in for those final 4 spots. They will go to the ACC and SEC with less conference games and overall losses.

Edited yesterday at 07:47 PM1 day by GeotechDuck

9 hours ago, 30Duck said:

Ah, that's the rub. How many of the bunch on the You Tube show, or the ones that call PAWL do a lot of deductive reasoning?

I'm not sure, but Pawl feeds into the delusion because it's his core fanbase. He knows television isn't about reporting facts. It's about views. Love him or hate him, people have a feeling about him.

Jo Bob and Delilah down at the Piggly Wiggly just buy into whatever they hear. I'm pretty sure they still think professional wrestling is a real sport.

RIP to Hulk Hogan btw.

Edited 19 hours ago19 hr by GatOrlando

7 hours ago, Charles Fischer said:

Right.

And in the B1G...we get PAID more!

That just chaps away at many SEC fans. It's a signal that the B1G doesn't have to bow down to kiss the ring. Pettiti isn't feeling pressure to settle because he's afraid of the ACC or Big 12 getting mad at him. He isn't afraid of losing millions, he serves the interest of the B1G. If the conference members are telling him to not back off this line, he isn't going to back off the line.