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Head Coaching Conundrum: To Hire Within or Without?
David Marsh replied to FishDuck Article's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
I would say some long term assistant coaches will be Mirabal and Salave'a at this time. Both received three year contract extensions and seem happy in their roles. I would also say that DeRuyter has the possibility of hanging around for quite a while. He's been a head coach but that was a while ago now and he hasn't gone out to pursue another head coaching job. He could certainly get a head coaching job at a group of five school if he wanted it, though he does seem content at Defensive Coordinator. I think I read somewhere that his wife has connections to Eugene as well which could play a role at keeping him at Oregon for a longer time. I doubt Moorhead will be at Oregon longer than another couple of years.. unless his family really likes Eugene in which case anything is possible. To date his family has only experienced Eugene during a pandemic. Though Moorhead does strike me as someone who would like another shot as a head coach at some point in the near future. Cristobal has done some internal title promotions over the past few years. Most recently Mirabal has the title of assistant head coach (a title that Salave'a has had in the past) and Wilson just received the title of co-defensive coordinator as well (this was a title that Heyward held for a season or two in the past). -
Head Coaching Conundrum: To Hire Within or Without?
David Marsh replied to FishDuck Article's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Alabama tends to go through coaches pretty regularly and that hasn't slowed them down. Though they do have their ups and downs and the past few years with Sark at OC has been an offensive explosion for them that has produced more than when Kiffin was the OC, and Kiffin did a pretty good job at Alabama. Clemson is a bit odd as they have really held onto their coaching staff with relatively little turnover. The Oregon of old focused almost exclusively on internal hires and that really did help build Oregon into a national brand. I would say Helfrich failed in his defensive hires more than his offensive hires. Promoting from within was the Oregon way so I really can't fault Helfrich for promoting Frost, Lubick and Pellum which all came with mixed results. It was the external hires that were even worse for Helfrich than the Pellum internal promotion. -
Jonathan Smith should be higher on that list. Simply put he is doing a lot with the little he has to work with and every years seems to be an improvement. It will take time to get Oregon State back to where it was before Riley left but with Smith in charge they will get there. Herm Edwards should be a bit lower as there is still a whole lot of hype around him. ASU recruiting has basically matched where it was when Graham was head coach and they are winning about as much as well. Jimmy Lake is too high also... Should be below Smith. Washington may have "won the North" but they didn't play the deciding game for the north against Oregon. Also Washington avoided any away games last year. Traveling is one of the hardest things to do in college football and Lake simply hasn't done it yet. Cristobal is currently the coach to beat and let's hope it stays that way.
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Change One Thing about Mario the Great?
David Marsh replied to Haywarduck's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
And I do solidly believe that in the 4th quarter if you're up you should burn that clock... Though maybe don't worry so much about burning the clock at the start of the 3rd quarter. I guess that is really where I have a problem is that in the 3rd quarter we really start to see the the offense slow down and be less effective on the whole. -
Texas Breaks the Bank to Get Steve Sarkisian
David Marsh replied to BigDucksFan's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Just two members of the Saban Coaching Rehabilitation Club... of which our own Mario Cristobal is a proud member of as well. -
Are the Ducks Just ONE PLAYER Away from the Playoffs?
David Marsh replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Some were literal toss ups! -
Are the Ducks Just ONE PLAYER Away from the Playoffs?
David Marsh replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Yes... It certainly feels that way though in 2021 if qb is sorted out it also looks like the rest of the piecesay finally be in place.... I would say a power runningback as the other piece needed though hopefully some youngsters have something to say about that. Also... I laughed so hard when I saw USC on that list needing a runningback. Might help if they actually use the ones they have correctly. Sorry... I seem to have an irrational desire to dump on the Trojans right now. -
Best of luck to him, I do with him the best.
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"People-Mover" Jordon Scott: I DON'T AGREE, do You?
David Marsh replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
This year the scheme was the same as last year. Big difference for Scott was that he dropped at least 20 pounds over the summer. Scott had lost weight over his years at Oregon but in 2019 he was at a fantastic playing weight. He had enough bulk to plug holes and be a force, while not so heavy that he had some good quickness off the line. This year it really felt like he had more quickness but a lot less bulk and was just countered. I think he'll stick in the NFL if he goes to a team that helps him gain some weight and deploys him properly. -
Oregon’s Unexpected Answer to Quarterback-Quandary
David Marsh replied to FishDuck Article's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
I would agree... Perhaps power runner isn't the right word. He did run between the tackles quite effectively though on the whole. Verdell runs with power but lacks the size considering how he seems to seek out contact. Barner ran with power but used his agility to bounce and slip tackles. Regardless.... Barner gave Mariota a very solid run game to help take some of the pressure off him during his freshman year starting. -
"People-Mover" Jordon Scott: I DON'T AGREE, do You?
David Marsh replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
I would say in past years he was a people mover... This year not so much. He was also beat out for a starting spot in the last two games. He lost too much weight and as a result he wasn't a force on the defensive line but instead a linemen easily handled. If he was a people mover our run defense wouldn't have been so dreadful this last year. Too many holes opened up and forced a young defense to make a lot more tackles in space for rushing plays than acceptable. -
Oregon’s Unexpected Answer to Quarterback-Quandary
David Marsh replied to FishDuck Article's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
I think a significant piece of the puzzle here will be the run game. Whoever the quarterback ends up being, will need to be complimented with a solid run game. Verdell and Dye are both going to see the field but neither are big enough to batter down the opposing defensive line. Will Benson or Cardwell get significant snaps with their size to keep the defensive line in check? If the run game can counter constant defensive pressure then that will open up the passing game and give the quarterback more time to do their job. In terms of raw athleticism Thompson is the better athlete though he lacks experience, this has been said a million times. What the run game can provide might give him the nod over Brown because Thompson will have the TIME he will need to grow. Going back into some recent examples of how a strong run games allows for young quarterbacks to succeed we can look at Marcus Mariota becoming the starting quarterback as a redshirt freshman in 2012. Kenjon Barner was the starting runningback and Barner's power running ability allowed Mariota to play to his strengths, and we will just let the rest of Mariota's career speak for itself. Herbert did have the potential for a strong running game as a true freshman with Freeman being the starting back. However, Freeman had some minor injuries in 2016. Furthermore, that was the year of the redshirt Freshman offensive line. In 2021 the quarterback is going to have a pretty good offensive line and some experienced runningbacks. Though the question will be can the combination of the offensive line and those runningbacks make enough of a run game so that the quarterback can settle into the game without constant fear of having to run for their life. If we were to try and pinpoint Shough's collapse this last year it really came when he didn't settle into the passing game and he got too anxious and would not look to extend the passing play but become a full time runner. This really came at a point in the season where the offensive line struggled more and the run game was not consistently effective. -
Change One Thing about Mario the Great?
David Marsh replied to Haywarduck's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Herbert and Royce for a couple years... Not terribly successful years but the program was undergoing quite a revamping. 2016 saw Freeman dinged up and 2017 saw Herbert dinged up. And... The ability to run out he clock by handing it off is great as you said with converting the third downs... Though at that pace Oregon would also be looking at adding more points on the board by punching it into the end zone. Though I will give MC and co props for the offense being able to opporate at varying tempos. One of the big problems in the Kelly-Helfrich eras was that the team could opporate at break neck speed but really struggled when the tempo slowed. We haven't seen as much of that issue the past few years... Granted I would love to see Oregon play with a faster tempo sometimes. A strong offense offers a double edged sword... One edge scores the points (duh) while the other forces the opposite offense to match those points... And often that leads to mistakes and turnovers. I want to see that style of play take over at Oregon again. We were pretty close in 2019 to achieving this but the offense wasn't quite deadly enough. -
Change One Thing about Mario the Great?
David Marsh replied to Haywarduck's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
It's goes with the offensive stuff... But killer instinct. MC is pretty happy burning clock as a strategy in the second half when up. Though what has made Oregon teams great in the past decade is the killer instinct of pushing the advantage and putting up major points and leaving no doubt who won the game and putting the opponents away. Games get a bit too close for comfort in the fourth quarter sometimes and it would be nice not just burning clock but burning down the score board with POINTS! Also if Oregon can put up enough points by the fourth quarter then the second or even third strinn guys can get a look on the field for some live reps. -
Yogi Roth: “What ELSE do you WANT, Oregon Fans?”
David Marsh replied to FishDuck Article's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
That... And the ball was very unforgiving this year where it seemed to bounce away from Oregon players and into the opponents hands. That also goes for fumbles from other teams. It doesn't excuse the lack of ball security by any means but if the ball was nicer to us itay not have been as bad. Though we all know what is being preached and practiced this off season offensively... Secure the flipping ball! -
Yogi Roth: “What ELSE do you WANT, Oregon Fans?”
David Marsh replied to FishDuck Article's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
That week was an incredible week for duck fans. As for the Fiesta Bowl fiasco ... Oregon played poorly. The defense was ground down in the first half but showed up in the second half. The offense was a complete hot mess. For me the tell tale sign of a failing offense is when they play two quarterbacks. Now occasionally throwing in a backup with a weird package can be a good thing (as seen in the pac-12 championship game) but outside of that it is a sign of a lack of quarterback leadership and desperation. In truth the fiesta bowl felt more like a quarterback competition game for Oregon than a cohesive offense. For young teams sometimes losing games is far more valuable than winning because they learn a lot. Here's hoping for a better 2021 season with a full off season. Also... Is it the spring game yet? I know I didn't get my football fill this last season and I really need another taste right now. -
The 2022 Recruiting rankings are off... It's going to take a while to start to see some separation. USC is out to a pretty hot start but Oregon is pretty close behind and Washington is making an early showing of it... The projections is that this will be a smaller recruiting class for Oregon so this year the real test will be quality over quantity. So far... looks like quality.
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The fact that Oregon is getting this kid out of Texas is HUGE. Oregon has dabbled in Texas under Cristobal but hasn't made any real splash there. Getting a foothold in Texas would be a major accomplishment. I do think we will see Chance's impact more this coming recruiting cycle. So much of recruitment is about building relationships and coaches can really spend YEARS developing these relationships and a good portion of them don't amount of anything tangible. It was Chance who had an established relationship with Dickerson that really enabled Oregon to swoop in and land him. This is not always the case as sometimes teams can build relationships quickly with recruits... but for the most part these things take time. I think Chance will have a real impact on recruitment and we are only just getting an idea as to the extent of his abilities. Now, can he beat Donte Williams? We will have to wait and find out on that one... but if Oregon keeps winning Pac-12 Championships and beating USC that will certainly help.
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At Each Position: Recruiting Success at a Glance
David Marsh replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
It also really shows the level of need Oregon is at this year. Oregon has a super full runningback room which is less full after two transfers and Oregon was very opportunistic with Cardwell as they had space down the stretch but they hadn't really planned on him for the majority of the cycle. Arguably Oregon could be on the runningback list if they counted Seven as a runningback. If Oregon lands JTT then they'd be on the list for defensive line. Regardless defensive line is a major position of need in 2022 but wasn't considered a high need this cycle as they landed a four star and made a push for a couple of five stars and are still in play for one. Of Oregon felt really desperate at defensive line they would have grabbed some sure fire three or four stars that they would be sure to land. -
It's not said often enough...Thank You Charles!
David Marsh replied to nogerO's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
And just as importantly you have saved our loved ones from our rambling about our Ducks. In that regard you have probably save many relationships. -
COVID Killing Recruiting: Dead Period Extends to May 31st
David Marsh replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Mixed bag as to whether it helps or hurts Oregon here... If the draw to stay closer to home is there Oregon wins... though if he wants to leave home and go somewhere that can compete for a National Championship year one it is difficult for Oregon to beat Ohio State or Alabama on that front. Though right now I am feeling this probably helps Oregon with JTT slightly. He knows Oregon fairly well and is closer to home. Those factors can play a major part in a year that has come with so much uncertainty and next year or two look clearer but we still have a long way to go before we emerge from COVID Chaos and that can play a significant role at least subconsciously. -
Arizona would be the choice if he wants to be close to home. Though... I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon State were to emerge as a contender for him. He has lots of family ties to OSU and he does still have some family in Oregon.
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There was a great point made on the last Autzen Audibles Podcast that other other coaches have come to Oregon without great recruiting track records and now they have recruited some serious talent. Apparently linebackers coach Ken Wilson never got close to recruiting a five-star recruit until he came to Oregon and he played a major role in the recruitment of both Sewell and Flowe. Offensive Line Coach Alex Mirabal doesn't have much of a recruiting track record to talk about before he came to Oregon and he has finished the 2021 recruiting class as one of the Nation's top recruiters. The school has as much to do about recruiting as who is doing the recruiting. Just some interesting tid-bits that I wanted to share.
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So are McClendon and arguably Moorhead as both have held jobs higher than their current jobs. Thats some incredible coach recruiting that the opportunity to come to Oregon for a job below a position they have had at a previous location says a lot about the vision Cristobal is promoting for Oregon.