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Yogi Roth: “What ELSE do you WANT, Oregon Fans?”
David Marsh replied to FishDuck Article's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
That... And the ball was very unforgiving this year where it seemed to bounce away from Oregon players and into the opponents hands. That also goes for fumbles from other teams. It doesn't excuse the lack of ball security by any means but if the ball was nicer to us itay not have been as bad. Though we all know what is being preached and practiced this off season offensively... Secure the flipping ball! -
Yogi Roth: “What ELSE do you WANT, Oregon Fans?”
David Marsh replied to FishDuck Article's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
That week was an incredible week for duck fans. As for the Fiesta Bowl fiasco ... Oregon played poorly. The defense was ground down in the first half but showed up in the second half. The offense was a complete hot mess. For me the tell tale sign of a failing offense is when they play two quarterbacks. Now occasionally throwing in a backup with a weird package can be a good thing (as seen in the pac-12 championship game) but outside of that it is a sign of a lack of quarterback leadership and desperation. In truth the fiesta bowl felt more like a quarterback competition game for Oregon than a cohesive offense. For young teams sometimes losing games is far more valuable than winning because they learn a lot. Here's hoping for a better 2021 season with a full off season. Also... Is it the spring game yet? I know I didn't get my football fill this last season and I really need another taste right now. -
The 2022 Recruiting rankings are off... It's going to take a while to start to see some separation. USC is out to a pretty hot start but Oregon is pretty close behind and Washington is making an early showing of it... The projections is that this will be a smaller recruiting class for Oregon so this year the real test will be quality over quantity. So far... looks like quality.
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The fact that Oregon is getting this kid out of Texas is HUGE. Oregon has dabbled in Texas under Cristobal but hasn't made any real splash there. Getting a foothold in Texas would be a major accomplishment. I do think we will see Chance's impact more this coming recruiting cycle. So much of recruitment is about building relationships and coaches can really spend YEARS developing these relationships and a good portion of them don't amount of anything tangible. It was Chance who had an established relationship with Dickerson that really enabled Oregon to swoop in and land him. This is not always the case as sometimes teams can build relationships quickly with recruits... but for the most part these things take time. I think Chance will have a real impact on recruitment and we are only just getting an idea as to the extent of his abilities. Now, can he beat Donte Williams? We will have to wait and find out on that one... but if Oregon keeps winning Pac-12 Championships and beating USC that will certainly help.
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At Each Position: Recruiting Success at a Glance
David Marsh replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
It also really shows the level of need Oregon is at this year. Oregon has a super full runningback room which is less full after two transfers and Oregon was very opportunistic with Cardwell as they had space down the stretch but they hadn't really planned on him for the majority of the cycle. Arguably Oregon could be on the runningback list if they counted Seven as a runningback. If Oregon lands JTT then they'd be on the list for defensive line. Regardless defensive line is a major position of need in 2022 but wasn't considered a high need this cycle as they landed a four star and made a push for a couple of five stars and are still in play for one. Of Oregon felt really desperate at defensive line they would have grabbed some sure fire three or four stars that they would be sure to land. -
It's not said often enough...Thank You Charles!
David Marsh replied to nogerO's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
And just as importantly you have saved our loved ones from our rambling about our Ducks. In that regard you have probably save many relationships. -
COVID Killing Recruiting: Dead Period Extends to May 31st
David Marsh replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Mixed bag as to whether it helps or hurts Oregon here... If the draw to stay closer to home is there Oregon wins... though if he wants to leave home and go somewhere that can compete for a National Championship year one it is difficult for Oregon to beat Ohio State or Alabama on that front. Though right now I am feeling this probably helps Oregon with JTT slightly. He knows Oregon fairly well and is closer to home. Those factors can play a major part in a year that has come with so much uncertainty and next year or two look clearer but we still have a long way to go before we emerge from COVID Chaos and that can play a significant role at least subconsciously. -
Arizona would be the choice if he wants to be close to home. Though... I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon State were to emerge as a contender for him. He has lots of family ties to OSU and he does still have some family in Oregon.
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There was a great point made on the last Autzen Audibles Podcast that other other coaches have come to Oregon without great recruiting track records and now they have recruited some serious talent. Apparently linebackers coach Ken Wilson never got close to recruiting a five-star recruit until he came to Oregon and he played a major role in the recruitment of both Sewell and Flowe. Offensive Line Coach Alex Mirabal doesn't have much of a recruiting track record to talk about before he came to Oregon and he has finished the 2021 recruiting class as one of the Nation's top recruiters. The school has as much to do about recruiting as who is doing the recruiting. Just some interesting tid-bits that I wanted to share.
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So are McClendon and arguably Moorhead as both have held jobs higher than their current jobs. Thats some incredible coach recruiting that the opportunity to come to Oregon for a job below a position they have had at a previous location says a lot about the vision Cristobal is promoting for Oregon.
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Oregon close to hiring Heyward's Replacement
David Marsh replied to UtahDuck's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Looking at his resume and even that of DeRuyter it is difficult to get a full grasp of their recruiting chops. What program you're with will determine who you can recruit for the most part. To put it simply... Boise State will never be in play for any five star kids. Whereas Alabama can be a viable landing spot for EVERY five-star out there. Arizona and Cal are both Pac-12 programs but neither contend for the top talent on any regular basis. Those programs need to show the ability to play at a higher level before they can recruit at a higher level. Oregon is in an odd position because Oregon bottomed out only four years ago but that was a minor blip on recruits radar. Where Cal, or Arizona haven't really been relevant for some time. Arizona has actually been relevant more recently as they won the Pac-12 South in 2014. I do look forward to seeing what these two can do recruiting wise with the resources and prestige at Oregon AND Mario Cristobal backing them up. -
Oregon close to hiring Heyward's Replacement
David Marsh replied to UtahDuck's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
It does make me laugh that Oregon is kinda outright just raiding Cal's staff at this point if Oregon does hire Yates. We took all the coaches we wanted from WSU so on to Cal now! -
The most concerning thing here I think is that both athletes are freshman. There is something in the current culture at WSU where this is permissable behavior (unless caught). These aren't Leach's players these are Rolovich's recruits.
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Whoa! Quarterbacks for 2022 are Drying Up!
David Marsh replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Texas has been down for as long as USC at this point and it has been a major factor in keeping the pac-12 from a full scale recruiting disaster. Yes, the pac-12 has had lots of problems but a Texas able to recruit at the highest levels does threaten a greater talent drain from the pac-12. Sark is looking like a great hire for Texas but that may have some major repercussions for the PAC. -
Whoa! Quarterbacks for 2022 are Drying Up!
David Marsh replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
My money is on Butterfield winning the starting job right now. Even with a much reduced season and practice time, he has been working on the Moorhead system longer and he has a pretty high ceiling which can propell him past Brown. Butterfield had complete control over the No. 2 spot last spring and then Brown joined the team later and bumped Butterfield to No. 3. With Shough's departure Butterfield is back in the No. 2 spot behind Brown but with a full spring and fall I wouldn't be surprised if he jumps Brown at some point before the season starts. Thompson will redshirt and grow. Digesting the college game is pretty tough, especially at quarterback. Herbert was highly unusual that he saw the field as a freshman and even more unusual that he won the starting job halfway through the season. Moreover, Herbert won the starting job in 2016 because his redshirt was already burned and the Duck's season was already dead due to a poor defense so there was nothing to lose. Give Thompson the time he needs to develop and he will produce big time for Oregon. -
Whoa! Quarterbacks for 2022 are Drying Up!
David Marsh replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Losing out on a big name in 2022 would hurt.... However, Oregon is in a great position at the moment where the need isn't as dire as other programs because Oregon has so many young quarterbacks. The quarterback battle this off season may very well determine the starter for the next three to four years for the program. So any recruit this year may end up transferring anyways. With that said losing a big name would hurt the recruiting stature of Oregon slightly. Though on the flip side as so many states have had no or a limited football season there are a lot of potential good to great quarterbacks out there who didn't get to play their junior years. So they may be unranked or a three star recruit but could bloom into a four or five star if given the opportunities their senior years. Certainly something to watch but at this point I'm not too worried. -
Check Out Oregon's Dominance Of The Last 30 Years!
David Marsh replied to 30Duck's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
For a brief period of time in the last five years when Oregon was down Washington had the most wind... But otherwise... You have to go back more than 45 years for Oregon to be over taken??? -
This is NOT the Twilight Zone...
David Marsh replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Much better shade of green for the pinned posts. The minty green just didn't have the Oregon feel to it. -
PLEASE, Oregon....Give it Up....Never Again...
David Marsh replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Should be true yes ... But I don't eat nachos during Oregon v arizona anymore because Oregon always seemed to lose when I did that. -
Husky Basketball Is BAD and JUST GETTING WORSE
David Marsh replied to 30Duck's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Remember a couple years ago when washington was the top ranked Pac-12 team and Oregon beat them in the tourney? And then made it to the elite 8 while washington was bounced out of the dance early. Ohhh that was fun. -
RatherBe's Very Cool Football Recruiting Map...
David Marsh replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
I would like to point out how many Nebraska N's are on this map... And there isn't an N on Nebraska itself. There is also a Utah U on this map... But it isn't on Utah. -
Put a "DC" after that Washington please... The only Washington Mariota should ever play for.
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Ponder Points: Anthony Brown Fiesta Bowl Highlights
David Marsh replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
The fumble I'm honestly not sure if it was an actual fumble. It feels like the refs were very quick to call it a fumble and then there weren't any good camera angles to give any difinitive evidence to over turn... Though it does look (with fan bias) than he was down before the ball came out. I do say let them play it out and see who comes out on top. I do believe that at this point Oregon does need a passer first and a runner second. Oregon must stretch the field vertically and the run game will be just fine. I found so many of the problems from the offensive collapse this season came when the quarterback forced a run rather than stayed patient for a pass. -
Tyler Shough in the Transfer Portal
David Marsh replied to Red Eddy Green's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
I doubt MC would have told Shough to look elsewhere but he does preach competition. And there are workouts going on right now and players have probably started meeting up on their own to practice among themselves. It sounded like Butterfield was coming along quite well last year working with the threes. Thompson is working out with the team and is probably practicing with some receivers... Both have stronger arms than Shough and if they have the accuracy thosr two will be in contention for some real playing time. Brown's ceiling isnt as high as Butterfield or Thompson's but he has expirence and if he can make a good show of it he can win it. Shough isn't in a great position to win the job and his confidence took a serious hit at the end of the season. Odds are Shough wasn't going to win the job. -
Tyler Shough in the Transfer Portal
David Marsh replied to Red Eddy Green's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
I was sure we would see another quarterback transfer out sometime soon. My prediction was no one was going to transfer out of the program until after Spring at the earliest though leaving now would allow Shough to potentially transfer somewhere in time for spring practice. Best of luck to him, I don't envy any quarterback who has to follow one of the all time greats at Oregon, Justin Herbert.