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Mike West
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So many variables. Ultimately, in my opinion the fundamental philosophy MC uses is troubling. But talent is still under the radar for me. We still need more deforest, Peneii, and Lagaretts, not to mention a Colvin or two. We had semblances of Byrd and Matthews, a Herbert or two, but if we want to win a Natty, we’re going to need that kind of talent two deep.
Getting to a NY6 is a reasonable goal with the kind of talent we have. It is reachable every year. Even with the coaching issues.
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17 hours ago, David Marsh said:
I think an expanded playoff could start to break up the status quo a little bit...
Because it changes from... "If you want to win a national championship 5-star recruit you need to go to Bama or Clemson or Ohio State" ....
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"5-star recruit if you want to compete for a national championship you need to be on a team that wins their conference."
Once we get to auto bids for conference champions talent won't condense onto a couple of teams but spread out a bit.
This is NOT a short term solution. Even if it were to happen next year (which it won't) it will take four or five years for things to break up.
LSU winning last year I think gave the invitational a bit of a shock... Not too much of one they were still an SEC team... But it wasn't Bama or Clemson who won which sent the message of if IF you can get enough talent and the right scheme things can happen.
A very very long ways off from seeing this status quo break up.
17 hours ago, David Marsh said:I think an expanded playoff could start to break up the status quo a little bit...
Because it changes from... "If you want to win a national championship 5-star recruit you need to go to Bama or Clemson or Ohio State" ....
To
"5-star recruit if you want to compete for a national championship you need to be on a team that wins their conference."
Once we get to auto bids for conference champions talent won't condense onto a couple of teams but spread out a bit.
This is NOT a short term solution. Even if it were to happen next year (which it won't) it will take four or five years for things to break up.
LSU winning last year I think gave the invitational a bit of a shock... Not too much of one they were still an SEC team... But it wasn't Bama or Clemson who won which sent the message of if IF you can get enough talent and the right scheme things can happen.
A very very long ways off from seeing this status quo break up.
I would agree with you if NLI weren’t coming to town. The coaches that can build depth year by year will win. You have three elite staffs and respective deep, stables that will be tough to compete with. I guarantee you, name brands will still sell. Even worse, one conference stands out so much above the rest on every level, it’s only going to get tougher.
Unfortunately for us, I think last year was our peak for quite awhile. I know exactly what I would do do put serious breaks in Oregon’s recruiting effectiveness. If I know, you know damn well the elite know. And Oregon is more name brand than Iowa State, whom has to compete with Iowa (who gets Big 10 crumbs). SEC teams are only going to get stronger. Which will,diminish teams like Oregon, Cinci, Central Florida, and the second tier teams. Florida, a Georgia, LSU and A&M are going to start “stealing talent” from the next tier.
I definitely don’t see it in my lifetime, because depth matters in football far more than March Madness luck. Strength, Power and Speed isn’t that deep in football.
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Frankly, another four or five games wouldn’t have made a difference.
As I intimated last night, we don’t have the horses. This is not an experience thing. We need guys the size of the Oregon grads that are NFL standouts.
Armstead; Buckner; the set of 2014 and 2007 WRs. Blunt; Rolls Royce; Ngata; Sewell; Stewart; Herbert; Harris; Matthews; and others that are built like NFL players.
This group and the incoming recruits are too small. They will elevate the program, but they are not enough. We can start with the first two guys I mentioned above. Bama, Clemson and Ohio State have six or seven guys that size on the defensive line.
Our receivers still don’t torch the best nationwide. You can see it today. Verdell is close, but Blunt, Stewart and Freeman are archetype bruisers with speed.
We have to get bigger and faster. There isn’t enough juice or toughness that can match that caliber consistently in my opinion. Maybe a semifinal victory, but I don’t see titles in our future.
Iowa State is tough, but they do not look like or perform like the Big 3.
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I lean more at 28-21 Iowa State.
Hope I’m surprised.
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I was wrong: Our lack of experience would have hurt us against Ohio State last September had we played. Not to mention, they have more depth and talent right now.
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Man,
Is there any Quarterback ready to step up to the level of play we’ve seen tonight on Our Beloved Ducks squad?
Any running backs that run and punish like those three teams above?
Wide Receivers?
Defensive Tackles?
Cornerbacks and Safeties?
We may have the lineman on offense. Maybe the linebackers. But that’s about it. From what I saw tonight, there is a huge difference between us and the elite teams.
Unless we absolutely trash Iowa State tomorrow, we are not going to get playoff consideration this year.
Any thoughts?
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4 hours ago, 30Duck said:
THIS is what's so awful about the "Invitational". It's bad enough that it has created a post season where only fans of the teams playing in the NY6 Bowls care about them. They can't see that having Alabama- Clemson, year after year is a problem!
Did you really believe the results would differ in an expanded playoff?
Florida? NoCinci? Absolutely not.
Georgia? Did you see Bama dismantle them last time?
What teams are in the stratosphere like Bama, Clemson and Ohio State?
Its boring because nobody can take the throne from these guys.
I’m actually converted. I want to see 8-12 teams. Because maybe just maybe, people will acknowledge just how far ahead the top two to three are ahead of everyone else.
it’s time to give Cinderella her shoes. And glitter dress. So we can see if style beats substance.
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I don’t mind the Pistol if it is used properly. As in to close out a team (“with physicality “ as our stubborn leader proclaims).
Mario Cristobal wants to wear down an opponent. I’m fine with that as long as he wears down their minds from the annihilation they experience as the offense drops more than forty points by the end of the third quarter. You know, like he claimed he would do in the first place.
Hopefully the game plan is to make Iowa State dizzy from confusion and a barrage of points. Sir Joe Moorehead is the kind of guy that can unleash that type of offense. I hope Cristobal demands it. And gets out of the way. I frankly never want to see a seven point victory for the rest of my life (and while I’m fantasizing here, why not add no more losses for life either...lol).
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30,
I think everyone wishes good riddance to 2020. Ironically, we all expected at least a conference title. The path the team took to get there was ugly, but honestly, didn’t we figure the team was at least a year away from greatness?
My beef is the missed opportunity to gauge the team’s true abilities against an elite team that also expected to reload this year. The roster our beloved Ducks started the 2020 season with was bulging with talent, and to host a blue blood we have yet to conquer was going to be the best part of this year in my opinion.
What a wasted opportunity to witness a mixture of the last vestiges of the “old guard” mixed with the newcomers. To be tested by a team known throughout the ages as a true powerhouse. Fortunately, we will witness the matchup in 2021. Yet the bitter taste in my mouth from missing out on the introduction to a burgeoning era...
Die forever 2020
Roll in 2021 on another good note my beloved Ducks.
News to ME: Heyward Created the USC Defensive Game-Plans?
in Our Beloved Ducks
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You and I both BDF.
FWIW, There have been plenty of times this season I was disappointed with games Avalos called this year. In fact, if Heyward did call both USC games, it tells me he has a knack for exploiting matchups. No matter the downside, if he is capable of extrapolating his success to all teams, then I’m for promoting him.
The talent on Defense will take a hit on the DL. But if they are successful at sealing the edges and forcing all runs inside (and the Edge LBs or DEs rush then cover RBs running routes to the flat), this defense can crush it.
There is another post I can’t find right now that wraps around this thought about Hayward I’d like to add to. IF we can only find two DeForest Buckner or Erik Armstead types on the DL, then it makes sense to surround that talent with a Funa type and some damn good range LBs like Sewell. Funa disappeared this year, but he is very talented.
The key to a dominant defense is consistently getting Armstead/Buckner types. Whether we develop them or get them to Eugene.
Then again, who are we fooling. The coaches have their own vision, thus we have to ponder what if’s or celebrate the surprises like the past two conference title games.