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Tim DeRuyter was the highest paid assistant at cal last year and made 400k(as a note he made 800k in 2019 but almost half of that was due to a retention bonus). He moved to Oregon because his salary is now 825k with bonuses. Add in that despite him being the play caller at CAL he wasn't the sole DC. What I mean is that CAL HC Justin Wilcox had about 10 years experience as a DC and his stamp was all over at cal. DeRuyter wanted his own thing and at Oregon Cristobal has been a lot more hands off when considering the defense compared to offense. Last point is teams often give titles to their coaches as a way to justify giving them pay raises the next time around. You often see assistant head coaches, associate head coaches, Run game coordinators on both the defense and offense, pass game coordinators, and then the obvious OC and DC. If you look up the coaching staff right now only two coaches don't have multiple titles coach cristobal-listed only as HC and Chance-listed only as Cornerbacks coach. I don't think DeRuyter is upset with the Wilson Co-DC listing because it probably doesn't mean all that much...

To give him the benefit of the doubt, we don't know how or why he lost that weight, It is possible that he lost the weight due to coaches saying he needed to be thinner/quicker or he could have lost it due to the lack of proper weight training during the covid shut out. Truthfully I think he performs better as a nose tackle in the Leavitt system than the DT position under Avalos. Avalos System just didn't fit what his role should be(closing gaps.) I think he has the possibility to be a long term NFL guy but his rigidness, when you make him bulky enough to close gaps he loses his speed and when you make him light enough to have speed he loses his ability to maintain gap control, makes him a liability as well. He has almost limited himself to a short down and distance player and with the NFL throwing more frequently in this position it will be interesting to see how he comes out.

Personal opinion I think Heyward is a better recruiter that Yates, but at this point we need some development happening at the safety position/Nickel. Our best DB's in his time were the ones that came in and instantly performed or were developed before he arrived. I think Yates has the pedigree and skill level to improve our Safeties. I for one am excited and Oregon should be much easier to recruit to so I assume he will learn how to recruit how Cristobal wants and Oregon should be golden or rather UO Yellow.

247sports.com is reporting that Oregon is close to hiring Marcel Yates from Cal to replace Heyward.

I think a better approach to take vs class rank is average recruit rank. In the last four classes USC leads the way followed by oregon then Washington. out of the four ASU is in fourth and a distant fourth at that. USC .9076 UO .9057 UW .8933 ASU .8695 Now a few key points, technically all three(USC,OU and UW) are averaging a 4* class, USC is averaging a top 250 player, OU - 270 player and UW a top 350. Another key point is UW surged in recruiting classes in 18 and 19 and have dropped off to what they were doing before(classes with averages around .87) If lake doesn't pick up recruiting he won't have a Huard to 'Save' his class next year. Meanwhile Oregon has been on a steady increase over the four classes with this last class being the pinnacle so far. I'll also note Oregon had the highest number of signee's in these 4 years which inevitably helps as many players transfer out. Last point is USC's best class by far(18-21 classes) was in 18(Average .9423). The top 4 players have either declared fro the draft or transfered(JT Daniels, Gaoteote) and another 2 in the top 10 have left(Declared Talanoa Hufanga, Transferred to OU Devon Williams). If you could calculate that into the averages USC would probably be a hair below Oregon.

I absolutely believe he has succeeded my expectations as well, I thought he has a big flop of a hire... but just exceeding the bare minimum of expectations doesn't mean ASU is the best team in the south or even on a path to excellence. In the south I'd put USC, UCLA and UTAH above ASU. just my opinion though.

what is Herm doing? in three season's herm is barely above 50% in wins(56%) and has a 50% record in conference neither statistic is significantly better than what they did under Graham. 19 of ASU's games have been decided by 1 TD or less and ASU does and he is sitting just sub 50% in that statistic as well. I think people confuse him being a likeable and understanding guy to meaning he will be a good coach. but they don't recognize their recruiting this season fell off a cliff because he fired both coordinators in the same offseason(Something small schools just can't get away with.) He has had 2 first round WR's in his tenure yet he hasn't had a top pac offense. He has had great RB's Benjamin and Rachaad white. ASU has potential I just don't think Herm will improve anymore than what happened under graham.

I'm not entirely sure how this would be good news, it isn't like spring ball has started and while I do believe players have the option/ability to practice together the only thing coaches can mandate as of current is weights/gym time. I think this is more about Shough trying to preserve himself and give himself the head start at another program. With him already completing his degree I do not blame him in any manner.

Reading that article is hard... mostly because it is bad. Like they give concessions away that USC has a horrid offensive line(True) but then pretend that because ASU returns so much talent they will be good. ASU had a horrible offensive line. and while it was technically improved in 20 over 19, they didn't play anyone. they allowed 6 sacks playing the number 12, 10, 6 and 4 defenses in the conference... It's Like when people talked about Cal returning the most on offense, Mediocre is still mediocre. ASU will consistently be a pac south middling team. They don't have the coaching staff, they don't have the resources and they can't win the in state recruiting(no one in AZ wants to keep living in Phoenix when LA is offering).

Yeah I haven't worked in insurance for sometime, but I've noticed a lot of people who don't understand HIPAA. as for FERPA I make no claims to understanding it but I do know it isn't only colleges bound by it. If Flowe was in highschool, it is possible that he could be violating it but again being that Flowe is in college, and his coach was told the information from Flowe rather than learning in his role as an "education professional" there is no way he violated FERPA either.

I don't like PFF for anything other than them giving hard to find 'Simple' stats. Example of a 'simple' stat that I like to read but is impossible to find unless you personally chart the games is Yards after contact. "Advanced metrics" often fail or are incomplete because they rely on human evaluation and then you add in that PFF doesn't produce how they manufactured their results. In your example yes the qb throwing a short pass to TE is much easier than throwing the 30 yard bomb into a tight window yet depending on the play QB1 may have made the right decision while QB2 got lucky. Simple stats are limited, I make no argument against that, and sometimes as coaches and fans you just have to say yup the eyeball test says Brown is better. But I think there's a lot of strength when comparing these stats to averages, averages across the conference, averages across the years, or multi-year cross divisional averages. Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes not that is my only point. The original point was that Shough had multiple passes that should have been intercepted. They Eye test agrees but the averages and facts point out that he actually had on average more INT's per PD than statistically normal. That's It, make with the information as you see fit.

That is not how HIPPA works... HIPPA prevents healthcare professionals from sharing "sensitive patient health information". So DR's, nurses any medical professionals and health insurance billing and so forth. If you share information with as Flowe did with a previous acquaintance and that person leaks or spreads the information they are not breaking HIPPA.

Yes, but every QB has passes that shouldn't be intercepted. Shough is not the exception to a lucky missed int. First look at the stats, the average NFL QB, throws an INT on ~2.4 percent of their attempted passes. As a first year started Shough threw 6 INT's on 167 pass attempts or ~3.6%. (I couldn't find NCAA stats but to also prove my point the top 10 in the pac, (in attempts threw 1552 pass and 46 INT's) had a 2.9% INT to attempt ratio. Now let's talk about how frequently defenses get INT's. The college numbers for years have suggested that you get an INT on 22% of your pass break ups(PBU's). this makes pretty good logistical sense, PBU's incorporates both INT and passes defended so the more you are in position(either by skill or scheme) to defend a pass the more likely you are to get an INT as well. After pulling the numbers either 1) he(shough) is more unlucky than the average college QB or 2) he is more likely to throw an INT on a defendable pass. during the season he had 19 Passes defended, which means he had 31% INT to PBU Ratio. My point isn't to say that I think Shough is great, although I think he can improve with an actual off-season with Moorhead. It's that he deserves the same credence that we give to other teams. The two QB's in the pac that consistently receive a lot of praise are Daniels and Slovis. Daniels stats are a little hard to decipher because he only played in 4 games and only had 84 passes. His one INT lead is about ~1.2% INT/Attempt. He had 9 PBU's or ~11% INT's/PBU's. In all likelihood he probably should have thrown one more INT. And Slovis had a ~2.6 INT/Pass Attempt so just about statistical average. and his 6 INT's puts him at ~20% INT's/PBU also really close to statistical average.

I think you have a few key points contributing to Iowa State's lower ranking. 1. Iowa State is not the top dog in conference and likely never will be. That belongs to Oklahoma, If were to bet on Oregon winning the Pac12 vs ISU winning the BIG12 my money is on Oregon. 2. Recruiting, ISU does more with less but that honestly means they have a cyclical team. they will Surge and fall. They need to recruit better than 55th. 3. While the Fiesta Bowl was Ugly, and oregon performed horribly... I also don't think one game comparison from 2020 is honestly fair. ISU, had both returning Coordinators. a returning starting qb and a longer season. With all that said, I wouldn't rank Oregon fifth, I wouldn't even rank them in the top 10. The position of QB is too valuable and with that being a question prior to the season I wouldn't rank them that high. I also hope spring allows our Offensive Line to get better settled and defined.

I think you miss the point pretty frequently in this statement. 1. Undersized- First undersized QB's are doing pretty well in the NFL and College right now. 2. I don't think I'd call him 'Undersized'. He needs the weight room at 190 but so do a number of players when the get to college. 3. "Very Helfrichean", I actually think Helfrich/Chip were quite apt at Evaluating players. Their problem was in their disdain for recruiting as a whole. 4. I make no remark towards their roster as a whole because I am not overly familiar but I do know that Oregon Offered and wanted WR Puka Nacua pretty bad. 5. No disagreement, Jon Donovan is a bad hire, but frankly UW hasn't had a good OC since Smith went to Oregon State. I think Donovan may actually be an improvement over Hamden still. You should look at who was hired for DC... now that is very Helrichean...

I really don't expect Brown to transfer out. He didn't win the starting job last year, and has kept around since. He easily could have transferred this year and guaranteed himself a starting spot elsewhere. At this point he must be looking at his Graduate degree. Although that doesn't really matter as he will be gone after this year. What you need to look at is the other depth, Thompson starting means he would jump butterfield, Ashford and Shough for the position. And during the 2021 and 2022 you could see multiple transfers at which point it becomes key for oregon to pull in 1-2 QB's in the 2022 class.

Neither do I, I guess my questions are just points I am interested in and hoping we can get some actual answers and reports prior to the season. I think some of these will be answered as we get spring rosters, some will be answered if we can watch a spring game game/practice and lastly some will be answered come the first game of the season. I'm also hoping some people may have better insight and understanding of the roster and can share that as well.

What's confusing to me about this move is he was already at UCLA with Chip. I wonder what his reasoning is for the move, because at this point I wouldn't want to be tying myself to Frost(Not that Chip is doing great either).

I really like reading Hythloday's work. Whether you agree or not with him, you can't say he isn't studied and doesn't have an well above average understanding of the game. Also his name is quite literally means "Peddler of nonsense" and I think is quite proud of that fact. As for his article, I think he quite clearly demonstrates how Oregon's Defense will be different next year purely based off how DeRuyter blitzes/pressures QB's vs Avalos. I for one will be happy to see more than 4 men blitzing the QB at a time and think that was honestly a big gap in our defense the last two years. Add in that Thibodeaux, per DeRuyter will never be 4i Tech and we should still have an elite pass rush mixed with some strong talent on the outside. A few questions: 1. Cal liked to play CB's on an Island, something that Leavitt(16-18) did in the past did but almost never done by Avalos(19-20) Despite us having the talent to do so. Will we see a return to that under DeRuyter? 2. I'm interested to see how LB shakes up under DeRuyter. I think ILB is fairly set with Sewell, ISM, Ju. Flowe, and Keith Brown, but olb sounds complicated and loaded at one of the two and note the other. - Per Hyth, It sounds like you have a pass rush specialist in the Joker(Stud or whatever terminology you prefer) at this position I can name Thibodeaux, Adrian Jackson, Mase Funa, Andrew Faoliu, and new LB Brandon Buckner all seem to be good fits. Yet the other OLB he clarifies as an OLB as hybrid olb/Nickel(Except on obvious passing downs in which case a true Nickel is used in place). Does Oregon have an OLB that fits this position? I think Adrian Jackson demonstrated some wheels this last season do you move him to get the start? Any thoughts 3. are we actually likely to see less Nickel as Hyth Predicts? 2 years ago(19) I thought DB was a strength, last season was just awful. I would love to see a DB lineup of Wright, McKinley, Hill and James. It would allow our safeties of the bench to be Bennett Williams and a freshman and when we do line up with Nickel, either Hill could move to that position as Williams takes safety or Williams comes in at safety. Overall I don't think we have the Depth at Safety to run Nickel frequently, and we definitely shouldn't be running Dime... 4. With Jordon Scott gone, does Popo have the skills to take over full time as a true Nose Tackle?

I think coach Wilson also staying rather than leaving helps de-emphasize that cristobal is "difficult to work for." To that point I do think Cristobal is 'difficult to work for' but not in the sense that the rumor mill produces. I think he expects you to work hard, to recruit hard and to be prime examples to the players. In that regards I think he expects a lot more than many other coaches but I think the facts stand as oregon has had 4 straight p12#1 recruiting classes.

I won't disagree that the pac 12 is irrelevant -atleast in regards to national media the playoffs but his point is completely off. We are Irrelevant because we have the worst media deals(and have for a decade). We are irrelevant because as a conference we can not produce an undefeated team(or one loss). we are Irrelevant in part to the decline membership of High School football participation in the west coast. His point of letting Oregon play in the ccg may have some merit, but who is the alternative. Washington was out due to covid, and to play colorado they would have had to have gotten the presidents to vote on the change which also doesn't make sense.

I think one point of notice is how much development each of Cristobal's four classes has gotten. First his first full class was a salvage class. His second class has been great overall, They've had a number of players including Hill and James overperform on the defensive side. His third class came right before the pandemic, add in a new OC and clearly the timeline and development was malignant. and now class four. A lot of what cristobal has accomplished has been because of Helfrich and Taggart recruits. I'm excited to see if he can institute a winning team with the players he has and an actual development timeline. This year, he should have 3 full classes(Not including a salvage 2018 class) with a full offseason, a full spring football and a weight training Oregon needs to be cooking this year. Oregon's talent in the last three classes is 44(Blue chip) - 27(3 stars) a blue chip ratio of ~62%

MC didn't have a scholarship to give. Oregon is already teetering with the overall scholarship limit. Add in that teams only keep one scholarshipped Kicker, Punter and Long Snapper on roster at any given point and we don't have one to give.

I agree, I think he is probably the most fundamentally sound out of the entire group. With that I think people are marking his measurables and position skills. He has been trained as a DE but he really doesn't have the physically attributes to play DE. His profile reads 6-1(maybe a touch short for OLB but not crazy) the problem is his last actually height measured was 5-11(who knows what his actually height is). I think this more than anything Is why he is getting knocked in the rankings. Their just isn't room in CFB for a 6-0 DE. He should be really good as pass rush OLB. I could see him pushing for time straight away. The only limiting factor is if he has the ability to play in coverage, I don't know what his speed coverage skills are like.

This Oregonian article came up in my news feed, noting that oregon had signed 4 of the top 6 offensive lineman in the pack 12. I did the rest of the work to find where The rest of the recruiting class landed. *As a note I used 247 vs Rivals primarily because 247 gives national rankings past 100 where rivals does not.* *Also note, to ease numbers I did not calculate Transfers/JC Transfers.* *Last key point, I grouped all Oline(OT/OG/OC), all QB's(PRO/DUAL) and RB's(RB/APB) in their respective positions. A few Key notes Oregon Signed the best player in the conference 4 times. OL-Kingsley, WR-Franklin, RB-McGee, and S-David. The signed the number 2 in the conference 7 Times. By only counting the highschool signees, the conference signed a total of 204 players. Of which all but one oregon player resides in the top 50% in the conference. Of the top 10% in the conference Oregon Signed 9. USC Signed 8 and the other 4 are split one a piece to Cal, UT, WA, ASU. Despite Buckner being below the 50% threshold in the conference, He still remained above 50% at his position(Ranked 7th out of 14). Barkins was the only player ranked below said 50(11th /16). Last Point as a conference I don't think anyone recruited DT, WDE, or S very well. USC pulled in the best DT who had a position rank of 14, CAL pulled in the best WDE ranked 21st positionally and the best safety was oregon's at 15th. Every other position in the conference pulled in multiple single digit(top 10) positionally ranked players. Ask for any clarifications, and I hope the image uploads well.