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Everything posted by Jon Joseph
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Oregon’s Strange Red Zone Problem
Fergie was forked. Friday night it is all systems GO for RPO plays utilizing Bo's running ability if needed.
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Last Pac-12 After Dark Brought Tears
$ is driving the train. I see no way that a reconstructed Pac-12 could pull down the same money as the B1G and the SEC.
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OFF TOPICS: For Your Interest...
Is Iowa the worst 2-loss team of all time? And it only has 2-losses because of a terrible late-in-the-game call that took away a winning punt return. Iowa has the worst O in the P5/G5. IMO, the B1G should have cratered divisions this season. Michigan vs Ohio State in a rematch of the competitive game played on Saturday would be far more interesting. Iowa was beat down and shut out at Penn State. I expect we will see the same come Saturday. Ducks up to -8 vs. UW.
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Ultimate Irony, Can-You-Believe-It?
Et tu, J Smith? Smitty jumped on the B1G life raft. He did not believe the Pac-2 was ever going to piece together a conference to have P5 status and he opted for the P4. Smart man. Michigan State does not have a bad history, Sparty made the PO the season it defeated Oregon in E. Lansing. Smith knows how to develop lesser recruits. I think he is a perfect hire for MSU. And he comes on board when Michigan is losing its top RB, WR, 4 starting OL guys, and its 2 best players on D. And will Harbaugh be there? I'm a bit surprised that Smith didn't wait to see if the UCLA job would open up. In 6 seasons in Westwood, Kelly is .500, and in paying the first of the Calimony payments on Saturday, he opened the way for Cal to go bowling and in the process saved Justin Wilcox's job. Considering the OOC competition and with UCLA missing both Oregon and UW this was as bad as Kelly could have done. Future 'star QB' Moore threw 2 more INTs and finished with 8 for the season before the bowl game. The goodwill from the SC win was lost on Saturday. How can 2 teams in LA play this badly?
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Is the Final Pac-12/Oregon Screw-Job Shaping Up?
Based on the AP and as I expected, OSU will remain in the Committee's top 25. And with UW likely to climb to the Committee's number 3 ranked team, a win over UW and a conference title will go a long way. Yes, Texas blew up TX Tech and Bama pulled a victory out of a loss, 10 years after the Kick 6, but I see neither victory as a reason to rank these 2 above Oregon at this point. Oregon defeated the same TT team on the road with TT playing its starting QB. Bama lucked out by beating a team that was humbled the week prior by NM State. Oregon wins and UGA wins and Oregon is in. It will be dicey if Bama defeats UGA but I believe UGA is the superior team and was not focused in the game versus Georgia Tech. TE Bowers and WR McConkey did not play but both are expected to suit up against Bama. UGA is the -5.5 favorite. Bama's big wins have come against a 4-loss TN team. An Ole Miss team that is the Penn State of the SEC and an LSU team without a defense. All 3 wins coming in Tuscaloosa. Texas plays 3-loss OK ST and not 2-loss OK. And Louisville's loss to Kentucky does not help FSU. I see no way that Iowa, a team that is dead last in the G5/P5 on offense, pulling off a win against Michigan. If UT is not above Oregon on Tuesday, Texas will not jump a Ducks team that defeated number 3 in the country no matter how badly it defeats OK St. GO DUCKS!
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Last Pac-12 After Dark Brought Tears
That was touching. To think, a few years back the enterprise could have been sold to ESPN with ESPN attached to the conference at the hip and it's likely the conference stays together with the network available as part of the ESPN package. Did 'these folks' ever make the correct business decision? Rhetorical question.
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Is the Final Pac-12/Oregon Screw-Job Shaping Up?
Great take. Thank you. Of course, it's the Committee's top 25 only that matters. I do think UW will be 3. I'm hoping Oregon as I expect, will stay ahead of Texas and Bama. Ohio State at 11-1 and not a conference champ, is not likely to sneak into the top 4 unless there is complete champ game chaos. So 5 or 6, Oregon playing the number 3 team will, other than Bama, have the toughest champ game matchup. Ohio State only has a chance if something bizarre happens like Louisville defeating FSU, Iowa defeating Michigan, OK State defeating Texas, Oregon -7.5, and UGA -5.5 winning as the favored teams. With Bama playing the top-ranked team, chaos could abound should both Bama and UGA finish 12-1. But with a win over the 3rd ranked team, I think Oregon will be in regardless of what happens in the other champ games. It's nice for Oregon to have an extra day to prepare, especially this late in the season.
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CFP Contenders
Ducks open -7.5 vs. UW in the Pac-12's last champ game. I think the line will be bet up in favor of Oregon during the week. Et tu J. Smith? Not only was Oregon State dominated by the Ducks, but its coach is joining the B1G party and will be on the sidelines in 2024 when Michigan State travels to Eugene. Oregon State fans are blaming Smith's departure on Phil Knight, Penny Knight, Rob Mullens, Puddles, NIKE, OREGON, UW, Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC, CU, Utah, Arizona, and ASU, along with Robert Murdoch, Mickey Mouse, and Connor Stalions. GO DUCKS! Crap out UW's perfect season in Las Vegas.
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Is the Final Pac-12/Oregon Screw-Job Shaping Up?
How sweet would a PO return Rose Bowl game be vs. Michigan? FSU defeats Louisville, UGA, MI, UT, and OREGON all win and it will be a quandary for the Committee. Made even worse if Bama off its miracle win at Auburn beats UGA. 12 team playoff anyone?
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Is the Final Pac-12/Oregon Screw-Job Shaping Up?
Back from the Left Coast where kick-off times are far easier on old guys. TOTAL DOMINATION in the Civil War. Like Lee trying to take the fortified hill in Gettysburg. UW, thank goodness scrapped by today, I watched the game on the plane on the way home. Bama basically lucked out at Auburn. Louisville lost but unfortunately, FSU won. OK State, thank goodness, came back from a big deficit vs BYU so it's Texas, a beat-down win over unranked TX Tech and OK St in the B12 champ game and not Oklahoma. 13-0 Michigan will beat no O Iowa. Louisville could challenge FSU down its QB in the ACC champ game. 11-1 Ohio State looks to be out of the Final 4 running. UW should move up to 3. FSU likely moves to 4 and then will it be Oregon or Ohio State at 5? UW is primed for a Puddles plucking. With the glamour off of the B12 champ game, Oregon is in a great Final 4 position. I think UGA defeats Bama, Beat UW and do not see the Ducks being left out in favor of a 1-loss Texas assuming UGA, Michigan. and FSU finish 13-0. And again, I'm not sure FSU can defeat Louisville, and with the game control beat-down of Oregon State, I think OSU will be ranked, and a win over #3 UW should seal the deal. Should be UGA #1, Michigan #2, and a shot for Oregon to be #3 and play Michigan in the Rose Bowl. QUACK!
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The Pac-2 is Ruse, a Sham That Makes NO SENSE
Use the 2024 most recent committee rankings and OR ST would be the 2024 4 seed as the MW champ with a 1st round bye. These folks are shooting themselves in the foot. No way the Pac-Whatever will be considered to be a power conference. Why not get it over with? Settle the idiotic litigation, obtain the Pac-12 trademark as part of the settlement, and do a reverse merger with the MW. Why Rob is going out of his way to try and schedule OSU is beyond me especially if a 2024 game is played at OSU instead of playing Boise in Autzen. Ohio State and UW, and at UCLA, Michigan, and Wisconsin is more than enough. Plus a P5 game with Texas Tech. Maybe Rob is trying to placate the state pols but I see no way the state is going to ding OR the way CA. is dinging UCLA.
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CFP Contenders
David, great points. I respectfully disagree, in part. Being a top-25 team and having a great SOS preseason and early in the season, is meaningless come the end of the season. There is no way the Committee will consider the Ducks win over CU, for example, as being a significant win. Preseason SOS is simply an exercise of looking at the teams on the schedule and how the teams finished last season. By Week 13, both SOS and SOR track what has happened this season. On December 3rd, when the Committee's ultimate ranking is released you will know how many wins, if any, a given team accomplished against the ultimate Ct. top 25. And also know whether a loss, like a 3-point loss in Seattle vs. 5-ranked UW, is a good loss. Yes, injuries will happen. And this can hurt a team's record down the road. The team you defeated in the season may not be as good at the season's end. Conversely, a team like Texas Tech, can claw back from 3-5, go 6-5 and bowl eligibility, and help the SOS for a team like Oregon that defeated it. Oregon has defeated 4 bowl-eligible teams and lost a close game against #5. UW should move up to 4 on Tuesday. If Oregon defeats Oregon State, wins the Pac-12 champ game against a top 4 ranked UW, and finishes 12-1 as a conference champ, Oregon will look darn good for a PO spot. An 11-1 Ohio State and especially an 11-1 Michigan, will be out of it. 12-1 Louisville has a bad loss at Pitt and even should it defeat FSU, will not jump the Ducks. 12-1 Texas, with more top-25 wins than Oregon and a win over Bama will be dicey. A 12-1 non-conference champ Georgia would have to be found to be 'unequivocally' better than 12-1 conference champ Oregon. I am not that concerned that a 12-1 Oregon with a win over UW will be left out of the Final 4. If this does happen, it will happen because other than for Arizona which climbed its way into the top 25, and UW, and Oregon, since 8 Pac-12 teams were ranked, many of the teams have floundered. One reason this has happened is due to playing 9 conference games in a deep conference. But will the CT take this into account? GO DUCKS! DAM THE BEACERS! Then, Payback Time for UW. Before 12/3, that's all we can with certainty, ask for. If the Beavers lose their bowl game it will not matter to the Ct. The Ct. does not release a ranking after 12/3. Root hard for Florida and Texas Tech. One of Ohio State/Michigan will lose.
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CFP Contenders
I hope so but overall IMO, the Eye Test should not trump metrics and Oregon has the poorest metrics of the 8 PO contenders. If all that matters is the Eye Test, then teams should schedule no team worth a darn OOC. Today, Bama would be ranked higher if it had played Rice and not Texas. Texas is not getting Ct. credit for winning in Tuscaloosa so why not play Vandy instead? An 11-1 UT with a win over Vandy would still be in the PO hunt. And UW, OR, MI, OH ST, and UT are getting no credit for a 9-game conference schedule. The Ct. makes it up as it sees fit. Including ranking MO. as the top 2L team, LSU as the top 3L team, and having 37, now 4L, Tennessee ranked 18 last week. SOS has never mattered to the PO Ct. This better change comes next season.
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CFP Contenders
ESPN - Week 13 Strength of Schedule (SOS) and Strength of Record Rankings (SOR) 1, Georgia - SOS 65 - SOR 5 2. Ohio State - SOS 45 - SOR 2 3. Michigan - SOS 59 - SOR 3 4. FSU - SOS 62 - SOR 4 5. Washington - SOS 35 - SOR 1 6. OREGON - SOS 63 - SOR 9 7. Texas - SOS 9 - SOR 6 8. Alabama - SOS - 28 - SOR 7 By any metric other than the Eye Test, UW should be ranked no lower than 4. And UW assuming UW TCB's against WSU, should jump the loser of the Ohio State vs. Michigan (-4) game to #3 before the Pac-12 champ game. Oregon is at 6, based solely on the Eye Test and not the metrics. This could change come Tuesday. Fortunately, last Saturday Bama swallowed a cupcake and UT defeated an unranked team and did not look great in doing so. Down to the wire and as insignificant as it may seem, Utah flaming out in Tucson and that phantom PI call on Ferguson, does not help Puddles cause. Ditto for CU and WSU going into the tank. Oregon's bowl team wins - Texas Tech, USC, Utah, and perhaps, Cal. WSU if the Cougars find a way to defeat UW but that would hurt Oregon's quality loss. Both UT and Bama have 2+ top-25 wins. I'm hoping the Ct. will drop 4-loss TN out of the top 25 and also Kansas taking away a top-25 win from both Bama and UT.
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Beavers are Over-Valued, Over-Paid, Ungrateful and Unaccountable
Oregon and UW will be full partners when the next media deal comes about in 6 years. Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers also tokk a haircut early on when they joined the B1G. And the current Oregon and UW haircuts were administered by Fox, CBS, and NBC, and not the B1G.
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Beavers are Over-Valued, Over-Paid, Ungrateful and Unaccountable
Steven A., and when Larry added CU and Utah to save face from being stiff armed by Texas he ended USC's premium share deal. One of Larry's many stupid decisions faciltated by a 'board of directors' who could not be voted out by shareholders a/k/a fans.
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Beavers are Over-Valued, Over-Paid, Ungrateful and Unaccountable
Great take but Puddles is going B1G and there is no way or any incentive for Oregon to put the Pac (RIP) back together. It's a Power 2 world and Puddles is living in it. As to competition? Have you watched any B1G football this season. It's Ohio State, Michigan, and 2 O-challenged teams in PSU and Iowa. And no CBB titles since 2001. Volleyball and soccer are very good but baseball, T+fricken, and the other sports? Oregon is moving into a world with more money and overall will not be facing better competition than it did in the Pac-12.
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Beavers are Over-Valued, Over-Paid, Ungrateful and Unaccountable
Charles, Spot On! Thank you for exposing the 'little guy' charade and today's society and journalism in general. "It wasn't my fault. Some other dudes did it." Dam the Beavers and the snarky legal loop-holing in an attempt to 'extort' more money from teams that did the heavy lifting over the last decade, primarily, Oregon. 1 CBB run for the Beavers. No CFB playoff appearences or NY 6 bowl games. A stadium down-sizing. 2 years in a row without a P5 OOC opponent. I hope Oregon smacks the one-demensional Beavers team come Friday. And I also hope that Oregon will not go out of its way to make the Civil War happen again. The Pac-2 according to the OSU AD 'has a plan.' According to Baghdad Bob, so did Saddam. Not only have Canzano's articles been over the top, the Beaver fans comments have been way over the top. Oregon doing what it had to do for its fans and the brand was 'immoral' according to many OSU fans. OK, but using a cheap lawyer trick to steal money you did not earn is completely kosher, right? The Pac-12 imploded due to one terrible business decision after another over the last decade. I'm reasonably certain that OSU and WSU representatives were present at the scene of the crimes. GO DUCKS! DAM THE BEAVERS! And shut off the scheduling pipeline which will only put more money in the Beavers grubby claws.
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Bo Nix - Our Second Heisman Winner?
When McCaffery lost the Heisman to a Bama RB whose OL should have won the Heisman, one-third of southern Heisman voters did not have McCaffery in their top 4. Most of the voters from Dixie do not watch Left Coast football. Others will view Bo as a traitor. Bo needs to ball out the next 2 games, LSU will not be playing in a conference champ game and this should help Bo, assuming a Civil War win, with the P5 spotlight on the Pac-12 champ game a week from Friday. It will also help Bo's cause if a very good A+M D show up against Daniels and holds Daniels under 300 pass yards and 100 on the ground. East Coast bias may not be all that it is made out to be but SEC bias is 100% real. Bo now has a big line to go against, -14.5, in the Civil War game. LSU the highest-ranked 3-loss team is -11 vs. the Aggies. Bo and DL will be making a visit to NYC. But Bo is more focused on winning the next 2 games and getting into a hotly contested final 4. Michigan is -4 vs. Ohio State. FSU -11.5 vs. UF. Texas -13.5 vs. Texas Tech. OK is -12.5 vs. TCU, with OK St. -17.5 vs. BYU. Ducks fans should be cheering the Cowboys on. It would be far better for Bo and Oregon if OK St., or K St, played Texas in the B12 champ game rather than a rematch of the Red River Rivalry game. And a Texas Tech win would be playoff-perfect for Oregon. Go Ducks! Dam the Beavers.
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Canzano: Oregon and Oregon State Plotting to Keep Civil War Alive in 2024
The Apple Cup is on from 2024 - 2028 but OH ST canceling out on UW left a scheduled opening for 2024/25. I see no reason whatsoever why Oregon should pay money to fit the Beavers into future schedules and if Oregon does so, OSU best agree to play back-to-back in Autzen. Oregon plays Ohio State and UW next season and on the road in Michigan and Wisconsin. Do you want to add another quasi-P4 opponent to Texas Tech with a new QB coming in? And, BTW, OSU is suing Oregon and trying to gloom onto money that Oregon and not OSU earned. Beavers be dammed.
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Bo Nix - Our Second Heisman Winner?
Southern voters shafted McCaffery and with Daniels in the mix playing for a 3-loss team they will likely do the same to Bo. Daniels had a great game Saturday versus Georgia. Er, Georgia State. Hopefully, LSU's win over TN will not be a top-25 win come Tuesday. The AP ranking 4-loss TN and not 3-loss NC State is senseless but at least AP voters had the good sense to move UW ahead of FSU.
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CFP Contenders
Oregon stays ahead of Texas on Tuesday and it will be due to the Eye Test.
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New Video Ad Popping Up and Annoying You Too?
Annie, you have confirmed what OBD members all already know, you are a far brighter and better person than I.
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Fun Watching the SC Fans Go Crazy
No top-25 wins and Texas with a win at Bama. Texas doesn't jump the Ducks it's all Eye Test. Especially with UT also having a win over ranked K State. At least in all likelihood, K State knocked Kansas out of the top 25 yesterday. Saturday's beneficial wins for Oregon, Texas Tech eking out a home win over UCF and becoming bowl eligible, OK ST winning at Houston and staying a game ahead of OK for the B12 title game, the Ducks do not want a Red River Rivalry rematch in the B12 champ game, and UW coming through in the rain in Corvallis. DB Muhammad played a terrific game last night and picked up the poor UW passing attack that suffered from the drops of rain and the football. UGA is an early -4 vs. Bama in the SEC champ game. Current Pac-12 championship odds are Oregon -190 and UW +180.
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New Video Ad Popping Up and Annoying You Too?
YELL YES! Just another invasion of the wired world imposing on our sanity and rudely doing so. These pop-up ads are like a person who routinely interrupts your conversation. No wonder civility and etiquette are going to Hay in a handbasket. This is not on you Charles. This is on the wired world we live in. A world where self-entitled egoists like Pat McAfee can scream and show off their way to the top. If it aggravates you, well, that's your problem. Is technology that provides for instant 'knowledge' worth the cost to society? And the tech is still in its infancy.