Jon Joseph

How many teams do you envision as members? I think B12 schools are likely off the table until the new media deal expires in 2030/31. If the Pac-9 and the ACC merged in theory the ACC could re-work its existing deal with ESPN. And the ACC network, Coast-to-Coast network could take over the Pac-12 network facilities and broadcast apparatus. The money maker would be to get Notre Dame to buy into conference affiliation for football with the understanding that Notre Dame would get a bigger piece of the pie as would Clemson, FSU, Oregon, and UW.

I like the take but I think Pac presidents are day and night different from their counterparts in the SEC. Had the SEC presidents made the decision to add the B12 orphans expansion into the Central time zone would have been a slam dunk and SEC commissioner Greg Sankey if the commissioner of the Pac would have insisted on adding the B12 schools and would not have bent over for the duplicitous Carol Folt, or later in the day, be sucker punched by Kevin Warren. Long ago SEC presidents figured out that a Rising Tide lifts all boats. Figured out that they are managing a big business when it comes to sports and not a lemonade stand.

ACC commish Jim Phillips says league ‘would absolutely be open’ to expansion SATURDAYROAD.COM ACC commissioner Jim Phillips says the league has spent 'considerable time' discussing the possibility of expansion.

Some prospective. Senseless negotiating by ESPN and Fox to be on the hook to fund B12 expansion but sound negotiating by Yormark. Give the devil his due. . Adding Colorado doesn't fix the Big 12's problem WWW.YARDBARKER.COM The Big 12 keeps getting bigger but not necessarily better. Colorado will join the conference in 2024, following the leaps...

I'm saving a ticket for you while hoping that the train soon departs the station.

The Plan? We have met the enemy and they are us! It's all good. Nothing to see here, move right along.

College Football: The Pac-9 suddenly in survival mode BAMAHAMMER.COM The college football conference still officially known as the Pac-12 now has just nine teams for the 2024 season. In short order this... Fool me once? Fool me twice should equal a Pink Slip and a boot out the door. Did anything new come out of yesterday's emergency meeting? NO!

Better leadership or simply leadership? Leaders do not get sucker punched more than once. If this guy can't show us the money then can GK and bring in Jim Delaney or Bob Bowlsby as a temporary replacement? 2 guys who actually have experience running a conference and experience with media deal negotiations and conference expansion. The guy we hired from Harvard had no college administrative experience and was a complete and costly failure so let's hire an unqualified guy from Boston University. Brilliant!

Great take. Compared to the B12 the geography is problematic but the ACC is a far better fit than the B12.

If I omitted Clemson I certainly did not mean to do so. Clemson and FSU are by quite a bit, the 2 most valuable schools in the ACC. Thanks for the heads up.

But in some respects, I agree that in this crazy world of conference realignment expansion chairs, a 'merger' of some kind with the ACC might well be the way to go and to stiff-arm the B12 in the process. At least from an Oregon POV, IMO, this could well be a better long-term alternative than adding G% teams.

AMEN, WW! But you monetize anything and the folks coming with the $ will end up in control.

I confess to being duped into believing that the Pac-10 would hold together and that another guy with no college sports experience would be better than the last guy without college sports experience to be named the man in charge of the Pac-12/10, oops, 9. Shame on me. IMO opinion, the below, and not simply adding G5 teams to the Pac-9 pallet, is how Oregon can be a member of the P3 of the P4 conferences. And also how the Pac-9 and the ACC Conference can survive and perhaps, thrive. Coast-to-Coast Conference West - Arizona, ASU, Cal, Georgia Tech, OREGON, Oregon State, Pitt, Stanford, Utah, Washington, Washington State. (Georgia Tech lies west of Detroit and Pitt is the other most western-located ACC school. Both are west of several B1G schools.) East - Boston College, Duke, Florida State, Louisville, Miami, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest. The ACC media deal at $20M a year through 2036 frankly stinks. But including distributions from the ACC Network, ACC teams grossed more than Pac-12 teams in 2022. ESPN, owner, and operator of the ACC network in 2018 offered to purchase and operate the Pac-12 network. An offer which in their wisdom, the conference turned down. ESPN could take over the Pac network facilities and merge the network into the ACC network. Like the ACC, the Pac-9 schools could assign their respective tier 2 and lower media rights to CW. It's more than time for Oregon and UW, to lead the way in this direction. To stop having their respective brand dragged down by vapid so-called leadership. Elevate ACC commissioner Jim Phillips and leave George Kliavkoff behind, fine with me. Would geography be ideal? No. But it is now even more apparent that Oregon needs to act in its best interest and lead the way, not allow itself to be dragged down by moronic leadership and by 'partners' unwilling or unable to promote their brand in the manner of Oregon. Adding G5 teams in an effort to win the conference and advance to an expanded football playoff is, IMO, short-sighted and not designed to lead to a long-term financial win.

Good take. But as of now, it's more than time for Oregon to think of itself and not the Pac-9 and the Larry-like continuing mismanagement. Adding a bunch of G5 schools will do nothing to improve the conference's national perception or to move it out of the P5 5 hole. First Kevin Warren and now the B12 Commish have played GK like a brass drum. Why would Oregon want to remain in a conference with GK as the so-called 'leader?' What can Oregon gain from affiliating with a bunch of G5 teams? There is a time if at all possible to abandon the ship and not continuing to believe that bailing water will keep the ship afloat. The iceberg has been struck.

Gold: Here lies the Pac-12, victim of its own hubris SATURDAYOUTWEST.COM The news of Colorado's defection to the Big 12 was as unsurprising as it was harrowing for the Pac-12. Now George Kliavkoff has a... Not to pile on but amen to this take.

Res ipsa loquitur. The thing speaks for itself. Fool me once? But fool me twice!

When it rains ... Is Yormark behind this? I hope Ralphie enjoys playing CBB in Mexico City.

Charles, my friend, thank you, Sir, for the applause emoji. But I feel like Lou Gehrig in his final appearance in old Yankee Stadium shortly before Lou succumbed to ALS. However, I do not feel like the 'luckiest man on the face of the earth.' My only comfort comes from knowing that Larry/George and their bosses can take the Conference of Champions down but the Oregon brand will not go down with the ship.

Good thoughts a day late and more than a few dollars short. Add SDSU, CO ST, and SMU and you are adding programs with small football stadiums. Teams that do not draw viewers. UNLV would at least add an NFL football stadium. But how much money will the addition of any of these schools drop to Oregon's bottom line? Hawaii? Come on Man! The conference would be a patchwork quilt and P5 #5 with a bullet. Mullens already has Oregon playing at Boise and Utah State down the road. What kind of TV audience against G5 teams draw? Bob Bowlsby and the B12 beat the Pac to the expansion and media deal punch. IMO, Oregon would be far better off taking a media deal haircut to join the B1G.

I guess Chicken Little was flying over Boulder and over GK's residence in Las Vegas which is now the kind-of home of Pac-12/10/9 headquarters. It frankly ticks me off that 2 schools after going on the cheap for years finally open the wallet and then bolt. But the anger in me is assuaged by realizing that it is extremely difficult for any business, even IBM, to overcome two decades of vapid leadership from the conference commissioner and the conference 'board of directors.' You reap what you sow and what you don't sow. And it chaffs my booty that Oregon, a program that with a generous benefactor in GK, did all it could to elevate its brand amid organizational dysfunction from the so-called 'leadership' of the conference. The Oregon brand along with the UW brand is strong and viable and I do not see Oregon heading for the Mountain West. But George Kliavkoff, on the heels of Larry Scott has made me and many of my Ducks brothers and sisters look like a dupe, a rube. Like Larry, GK sells platitudes instead of showing us the money. In business and college sports today is big business, you have to lead and not simply be reactionary, not simply satisfied with the rope-a-dope strategy. GK made the OBVIOUS move and bailed out of SFO. Other than that what has the man done other than giving the LA schools a scheduling benefit in 2023? What has the conference done to go after Larry Scott for his role in the Comcast cover-up and general malfeasance? Nothing. I have no idea where the money to purloin CU is coming from. But it has to be there for CU to be making this move. And I now believe the money will be there for Arizona to join CU. My only hope is that Oregon will find itself in the B1G, without being too junior of a junior partner and not in the B12. The irony of once being able to destroy the B12 and now being swallowed by the B12 may be fitting for CU but it would be would be a slap in the face to Ducks fans. What now is the better course for Oregon? To continue to be a member of a conference with the addition of one to four G5 schools or, if given the chance, to go to the B1G and alleviate travel somewhat by encouraging the already discussed B1G concept of regional travel for non-revenue sports. Regardless, it stinks that Oregon is in this position but there are more rounds to come in a realignment fight where Oregon punches above its weight class.

My Bad for calling out a poster who saw this coming yesterday. The Pac-10 sky is falling in Boulder. SC opens the wallet after going a decade on the cheap and bolts. Ditto CU. To the B12? in this case. Unless the media deal is a complete loser this is at best a lateral move.

His article discussed the yin and yang of CU's relationship with the Pac and the B12. Wilner does not predict in any way, shape, or form that CU is ready to jump to the B12. Again, what media entity is going to fund such a move? It has already been disclosed by the B12 that in order to add UConn and Gonzaga existing B12 members would have to take a media haircut. I for one will be so happy when the new media deal is completed and all Pac-10 schools pledge their respective media rights to the new deal. The Pac-10 deal will likely not fall short of the B12 deal and if it does fall somewhat short it will not be enough of a difference for any Pac-10 team to join the B12 and again, who in the heck is going to pay for any such relocation.

CU will not accept less than BYU if it was to move to the B12. The B12 deal begins in 2024 and runs for 6 years. What media entity in today's business climate is going to come with 31.7M x 6 = $190.2M for more B12 inventory when ESPN didn't come with the money to incent the SEC to play 9 regular season conference games? Unlike Keyser Soze, the usual suspects do not have the money.

I think the raise and the extension were due to what Mullens has seen so far and also to today's marketplace where Rob knows that DL is on the radar of more than a few schools that can come with mucho dinero. We already know that DL fits the recruiting from high school and from the portal equation. And agents are going to agent.

I think he used the Dennis Dodd/Brett McMurphy search engine. Bucky Irving in 2022 was one of two RBs to carry the ball 150 times or more and average 6,5 yards or more.