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The Duck women caught a ton of bad breaks, but still over performed by 3 points to finish 4th, a mere two points out of a podium position. The bad breaks included a crash in the WDMR, that surely cost the Ducks 2-4 points, Ross in the SP completely out throwing the winner, but the Colorado State winner managed 1 throw that made her the winner by 2.5", thus costing the Ducks 2 more points. Finally, Aliyah McCormick tipped the final W60 hurdle and while she fell across the line in 7th, she probably would have scored a couple of points more. Any 3 of those 7 or 8 points would have put the Ducks in 3rd. On a brighter note, no one underperformed more than UW, who went -18 to win the women's Tank trophy, then doubled back on the men's side with a scintillating -19, to clinch both crowns. We sat with Jerry Schumacher during the WSP and he seemed to have good rapport with his team and we few who journeyed to Boston. A lot of good athletes coming in on both sides and patience seems the name of the game for track fans

Can’t imagine this is making our ex-trackster and current shoe magnate very happy. Hayward will be a ghost town during the regular season if, like last year, Schumacher sends his best to run anywhere but home. At this point I only buy season seats to assure good seating for Pre and the NCAAs.

In a word: Ugly. The men are projected to throw up a goosegg, falling behind such powerhouses as Lamar, S Utah, TX State....well, you get the picture. Meanwhile, the women should at least score (I'm projecting 20-25 points) which gives them a shot at a top 10 finish. Remember the good ol' days when we'd sweep and/or always finish with both squads on the podium? I know they're saving some athletes for outdoors, but will it make much difference? Hope I live long enough to see a repeat of the golden decade of 2010-2020.

Seems like their entire fan base wants Riley fired as they get trounced by UCLA and heir 3rd string QB. Chip may have saved his job.

Several things. He was an offensive genius. He made a ton of $$$ going pro. He got married. He’s wealthy, has a home life, is older, and surely has less interest in working the hours he did at OR.

Miami takes 2 completely stupid unnecessary roughness calls (well after the plays) in the last few minutes of a close loss. Miami at 6-5 vs 5-7 last year vs 7-5 before he came on board. Must be fun worrying about your job since he was Miami’s savior.

The last time a Duck or former Duck trackster failed to medal in a World's Championships was 2009 in Berlin. With three days left, the Ducks are down to only two medal contenders: Jorinde Van Klinken in the shot put and Raevyn Rogers in the 800. Neither are picked to finish in the top 8 by Track and Field News. At this point, the best Duck showing was Van Klinken's 4th in the discus; she held third in the penultimate round 5, but was passed by 21cm (8") and had to settle for fourth. Cole Hocker raced well in the 1500 and set a personal best (3:30.70), but finished only 7th in a formidable field. While several other Ducks competed (Hiltz, Hull, Weir, Ilhemeje), none were remotely close to medaling. Rogers' semi-final heat will be run tonight (11:25AM PDT). Should she advance to the final on Sunday, the race begins at 11:45AM PDT. Van Klinken will attempt to qualify Saturday at 1:25AM PDT, with the final at 11:15AM PDT.

They may get punched down a notch, but we were asking athletes and parents if traveling cross country 4-5 times a year was to their taste. I’d like to see the 4 West Coast teams play one another every year. That’s 3 games on the West Coast. Then you split 6 more with the East Coast and then a home non-conference game and at least we’ll be in the close neighborhood for 7 games, maybe 8 if you schedule another clunker at home

The whining on various SC websites is pretty funny. How dare the B1G allow two teams who can beat us into the conference?

No doubt the men will be stronger next year and if Birnbaum and Burns can both double, that could be a lot of points. If Micah Williams gets healthy, we could be good in the 100 and 200. Big question is how much will Lanning allow Roderick Pleasant to run track; as a 100/200 CA State champ, he could be a force, certainly in conference and maybe at Nationals. As the teams look stronger and stronger, that might draw in some recruits currently sitting on the fence.

The 1500 squad more than came through and Van Klinken's worst throw would have won. Great day for the Ducks and while we're not where we used to be, props to Shalane Flanagan's fine job with the milers and Coach Blu's work with the throwers. Between the two, we scored 35 of our 44 points. We might have gotten second had not our top hurdler been injured, the awful performance by World Championship finalist Shana Grebo (400H) is a head-scratcher and Pac 12 Champ Shelby Moran's shutout in the Hammer all kept us from finishing 2nd. A long way from TX, but a young team that should remain in the podium hunt the next few years and maybe win it all with continuing good recruiting.

See posts at the end of this thread for final results... --------------------------------------------------------------------- How things change overnight! A few relay bobbles by superior-rated teams and all of a sudden, the podium (4th in this case) is possible. As it now stands, we project to score 38 points (vs 25 just the other day). From my point of view, it all comes down to how we do in the 1500 (which starts at 6:12 on ESPN2). Should our 1500 athletes come up big and the relay teams run to their capabilities, we've got a shot at what seemed impossible after day 1.

For some reason, wasn't able to edit my post, so I'll add to it here. Although podium is still out of the question, both relay teams stepped up and while neither was projected to score, both probably will. We're only talking about a few points, however. Alysah Hickey is the only OVER-performer thus far, finishing 4th in the Long Jump after being picked for 5th. While freshman Maddy Elmore barely made the trip to Austin, she surprised and managed to qualify for the final, though isn't expected to score. In fact, a bright spot is that the Ducks have 25% of the 1500 final athletes. Looking at the form charts, we project to score 13 points on the final day (Saturday) to add to the 13 we've already scored. Still, 26 points is well below original projections (35) and a few slips and we could drop out of the top 10 after being projected to finish 5th by a large (9 point) margin over the projected 6th place team.

Any slight hopes for a podium position disappeared with the first event. Projected for 6 points in the women's discus, our Pac12 champ got a goose egg. We needed above average performances by EVERYONE to even think about a top 3 or 4 position. Now we're just shooting for the top 10. Meanwhile, the person our DT beat for the Pac12 title finished 3rd. Just an ugly season after so many years of success. It happens.

It's official. The Duck men will score less points than Harvard (which has 13 thus far). I thought Alex Slenning did a great job finishing in the steeplechase (even though the TV people don't seem to understand that the races for the small q can be more exciting than the auto Q, so they didn't show Snelling's final 100 which must have been off the charts as he looked dead coming over the water in 8th or 9th place). Sadly, he missed that small q by a few hundredths and he'll probably forever wish he had started his kick a bit earlier. Freshman Rafael Raap has done a nice job through six decathlon events, setting his collegiate bests in 3 of the events and having bad luck getting headwinds in the 100 and 100H while most everyone else benefited from nice tailwinds (e.g., in the 110H, Raap got a -0.6 while the most beneficial heat was +3.1. According to the Big Gold Book, the difference is worth .17). His 400 was dismal and dead last, though only a few hundredths from his SB, so there's an event he needs to work on along with the 1500 if he ever wants to approach 8000 and become an NCAA scorer. I'd like to think Coach Schumacher's distance experience will help. Then again, Matthew Erickson ran a dismal 800; had he matched his first round at Sacto, he would have moved on. The 4x100 team did a nice job getting the stick around and set a SB, but finished only 16th out of the 24 teams. Finally, Micah Williams didn't look great in the 100, but he is the only male Duck that will continue to run, though I wouldn't expect more than 3 points; hopefully, he'll prove me wrong. Regardless, this is one of the poorest Duck showings in decades. Only one way to go next year.

Excellent question. I had thought that as they approached the finish of construction, that would have gotten recruits excited. Didn't quite work out that way, but it appears that the incoming class next year will be a lot better and some of our freshmen had pretty good seasons that may translate into NCAA championship appearances, if not points. I have a feeling that former coach Johnson's eminent firing also contributed to the mediocre recruiting classes of the past few years. We don't know the details of the firing, but I would bet the coaches recruiting against the Ducks were happy to share what was going on.

I rely on the form charts from the OR track Proboards (simply based on marks dating back to the first outdoor meet) as well as FloTrack and Track and Field News, both of which take recent marks and injuries into consideration. Let's get the men over with first.....they're completely out of it and the best projection has them scoring 5 points. How ugly is 5 points? Well, Harvard is projected to score 10. The single Duck projected to score is the injury-prone Micah Williams in the 100m. On the women's side, best marks aren't translating very well in real time. While OR Proboards has the Ducks finishing 3rd, Track and Field News projects 5th and, worse yet, a whopping 18 points from 3rd. Flotrack is a little kinder showing the women at 4th, but at least only 6 points out of third. The Austin heat won't provide any sort of advantage and there are very few fans willing to spend the time and money to watch the men flop and the women probably not make the podium and a few parents aren't going to make much noise. The meet will be covered in full, with most field events on ESPN+ and the running events on ESPN2. This is some of the most comprehensive coverage I've seen in recent NCAA meets, but it'll cost you $9.99 for the ESPN+ feed. The meet starts tomorrow afternoon and runs through Saturday.

Both the men and women did well re advancing to Austin for the big dance. While the men will be lucky to score 10 points, several who were given little chance to advance moved on. The women are in the hunt for 3rd, current tied with AR, with several other squads just a few points behind in the form charts.

Mission accomplished? Would that be to have your team down 3-1? He hasn’t done squat. LeBron was the first Laker with 20 points and 20 rebounds since 2004. Nice defensive job. While his play as a Duck was commendable, his subpar game in the final four prevented the Ducks from a shot at the national championship in a one point loss to NC.

100% agree. Guess Uncle Phil isn't much of an indoor track fan. The indoor track has been on the boards since they ran on boards. Rumors have flown for well over a decade. I don't know why the fairgrounds hasn't been considered (could be the positioning of the structural posts). Boise was able to take a horse show arena and make an indoor track out of it for an NCAA championship in 2012. Then there was Springfield's posturing the past few years, a topic that seems to have died. No doubt recruiting would improve and how we won all those indoor titles without a proper facility boggles the mind. The closest indoor track at UW is oversized and doesn't begin to teach athletes how to run the tight curves you find on typical 200m tracks.

I believe it did. Practice facilities became LCC and South Eugene HS. Tough to sell those venues to top recruits, especially younger kids who couldn't see past sub-standard training facilities and into the future of the best arena in the world.

Several things. The old Hayward tear down led to several mediocre recruiting years and the still-unexplained firing of Robert Johnson sealed the deal.

With our not-too-distant indoor championship squads, I took a look at this year's teams in relation to the rebirth of Track and Field at Oregon when Vin Lananna took over. This involves 18 Indoor Championships from 2005 onward. This year's squads scored a grand total of 24 points combined. Worst ever? No, that would be the 2008 teams which combined for 11.33 points. Next worst was 2007 and 20 points. After that, 29 points in 2005. These might be considered Vin's building years. And last year's 39 was the 5th worst post-Vin/Robert Johnsn. The only good thing I can take away from this would be that within a year of the miserable '08 showing, we scored 75 points. Hopefully the freshman will develop, a few solid protocol transfers/eligible grad students come in and the Ducks can once again dream of podium slots. Concerning is the lack of championship effort and/or coaches preparation. Under coach Johnson, the Ducks had a wonderful ability to peak for the big meets. With the exception of a great job by Freshman Jaydn Mays in the 60 and 200, everyone else either performed to expectations or, for the most part, underperformed. While I don't at all question Jerry Shumacher's credentials as a coach (don't get me started on the women's DMR, though, where he burned two athletes who had qualified for the mile final and pretty much destroyed any chances for their individual success while scoring a goose egg in the DMR), I don't believe there are enough hours in the day to coach collegians, pros AND recruit. Have you ever heard a collegiate football coach who went pro complain about missing the recruiting part of the job? I do hope the associates can handle the recruiting end, since Schumacher's workload doesn't allow for much free time. Another option would be to let Schumacher go back to solely being a pro coach and bring in someone whose sole responsibility would be college track. We've got the best stadium in the world, far and away the best athlete facilities for track and field and a not so distant reputation for winning big meets. For whatever reason, athletes aren't lining up to come to Eugene and I might argue that our best track recruiter has been Dan Lanning.

As a track fan and writer, to the best of my knowledge ZERO football players have competed for the Ducks since Mark Helfrich left; if any have, they've been of no consequence. Mark Helfrich gave a great speech at Track Town Tuesday at the VR Inn just after being named head coach, when he told a roomful of track fans that he was going to encourage his players to compete in track and field. During his tenure, we had two time Olympian Devon Allen and De'Anthony Thomas on the team; in fact, at one point THREE of the guys on the 4x100 team were football players (Thomas, Allen and Dior Mathis). Chip Kelley was big on letting his players run track and the 2011 4x100 team included LaMichael James, Kenjon Barner and Dior Mathis. That's SEVENTY FIVE per cent of our relay team. While the former team only got 4th in conference and the latter 5th, they were juggling Spring practice along with individual sprint events, football meetings and academics. The crowd at Hayward always got involved when the footballers were out there. That stopped with Mario Cristobal and I guess the verdict is still out with Dan Lanning, though any recruitment of a football/track star would be severely hindered by telling an athlete they could only compete in one sport. '

Possibly. When I tested it, it did work. Originally fond it on Apple News, then went to ESPN site and copied their link