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Tandaian
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Relegation would be an awesome idea for football, but because it is all about the money, it won't ever happen.
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The only P5 schools left are OSU, WSU, Cal and Stanford. To say realignment isn't done, is like saying gambling happens in casinos. Those 4 schools are going to end up somewhere. The remaining P5 schools are done moving until TV contracts run out. Or the ACC somehow breaks their TV contract.
I still have no idea how the ACC thought it was a good idea to sign a 20 year deal without a 5-10% raise every year.
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PSU, OSU and UO all made an agreement in the early 2000's they would govern their schools their own way. The barn door was opened and all the animals got out. I'm not sure why a few local officials think they can get the animals back in the barn, especially when 2 of the 3 schools are fine with how things are.
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The Rose Bowl was never going to be a B1G Ten vs PAC again as a requirement. Utah vs Penn State last year was the last between the two conferences. The Rose Bowl could have had a B1G Ten and PAC team, but 2024 forward it was never going to be required. The CFP stopped the B1G Ten vs PAC tradition.
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UO has the most names, but tOSU has the most "starters".
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The Mountain West might not be anywhere near the P4 TV deals, but it better than everybody else, except the AAC. However, since the AAC lost their 3 biggest teams, I'm guessing the MW will have the better of the TV contract the next go around.
B1G Ten - 1 billion per year, 62.5 mil per school(16 schools)
Big 12 - 31.7 mil per school
SEC - 300 mil per year, which is only 18.75 per school?? Where does the SEC get all their money, if their contract is only 300 mil per year? The 2nd article has the SEC at 70 mil per school.
ACC - 17 mil per school
AAC - 7 mil per school
MW - 4 mil per school
Mid-American - 600K per school
Sun Belt 500K per school
Conference USA - between 400k - 500k per school
Here’s a look at all the current conference TV deals - On3
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While changes are coming, here are the conference TV deals for each of the 10 leagues, for Notre Dame and for the College Football Playoff. College Football TV Deals: Which Conference Won? - Streaming Stadium
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Which Power 5 conference has the most lucrative TV deal? We rank the TV contracts for the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, PAC-12, and SEC. -
I don't watch much softball, but having one foot on the ground is a good rule. The rule was more from distracting the hitter, than it was for a pitching advantage.
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Ha, drop this in their thread.
Apparel 50 2022 | Brand Value Ranking League Table | Brandirectory
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The annual report on the most valuable and strongest apparel brandsNike is the largest clothing line, not just athletic, but all clothing in the world. It isn't even close; they are 10 billion ahead of 2nd place. When you get to 4th place, Nike doubles the total sales.
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That is a subscription article.
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It is a conundrum, TV market size vs actual TV numbers. Rutgers, Maryland and UCLA TV numbers lag behind their actual market size, but are deemed valuable.
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If B1G goes to a 10 game conference schedule, is the conference going to reimburse each university to buyout teams? Oregon has 3 OOC games on their schedule thru 2028. Granted, there is 1 G5 team or 1 FCS team every year, so the buyout wouldn't be terrible.
Years with 3 OOC games
USC 2024-2026
UCLA 2024-2027
tOSU 2024 and 2026.
Michigan 2024-2026
Penn St. 2024 and 2026
Michigan St. 2024-2025
Wisconsin 2024-2026
Iowa 2024-2026
Minnesota 2024-2026
Nebraska 2024-2026 & 2028
Purdue 2024-2028
Illinois 2024-2026
Indiana 2024-2027
Maryland 2024, 2025 and 2027
Washington is good to go. They don't have any season with 3 OOC already scheduled.
Rutgers is good to go.
Northwestern is good to go.
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5 seems about right. However, they are all over the place in their decision making process. Do championships matter or not? I'm not counting anything before 1936 and the AP was formed.
tOSU 5
USC 5
Minnesota 4
Nebraska 4
Michigan 2
Penn St. 2
Maryland 1
Michigan St. 1
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Ducks Sign Jesse Zarzuela - University of Oregon Athletics
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I was listening to John Canzano yesterday, 8/8/23, and he talked to a PAC president about the TV contract fiasco. It really does look like some shady stuff went down. The president said the PAC wanted to get a TV done early, but FOX said nope, we have exclusive negotiations until October 7th, 2022. FOX dragged their feet and nothing got done. Then on 10/30/22 ESPN and FOX finalized their deal with the Big 12.
ESPN said they had no more money for the PAC. It really looks like FOX orchestrated this whole thing. I wonder what type of legal action OSU, WSU, Stanford and Cal have?
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I think they are talking about Willie Lyles and Chip Kelly in 2013.
NIL isn't cheating. We just happen to have really good business people running our NIL company, Division Street.
USC has 44,000 students, UO has 23,000 students. USC is producing 5,000 more alumni every year and from an expensive private school in an expensive city. I have a feeling the average salary for a USC grad is higher than a UO grad. I know they don't have a Phil Knight, but if they had a passionate fan base they could make up for it with numbers.
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The PAC subscription could come separate from Apple. MLS can be separate or is discounted $5 per month with an Apple subscription. It likely would have been $15 a month on its own.
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I think if Apple offers the PAC between $30 - $31.7 mil as base and doesn't start offering incentives until after 1.7 mil, the PAC would have taken it.
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It depends on how much both schools really want to play each other. Without buyouts, they could start playing each other by 2029 in football. Every other sport is much easier to schedule games.
Oregon OSU 2024 @ Hawaii Idaho St. Idaho @ Boise St. Texas Tech Purdue Boise St. 2025 Montana St. Portland St. Oklahoma St. Fresno St. @ Boise St. @ Texas Tech 2026 Boise St. Sacramento St. @ Oklahoma St. Texas Tech Portland St. @ San Diego St. 2027 Eastern WA Portland St. @ Baylor New Mexico Utah St. @ Ole Miss 2028 North Dakota St. @ New Mexico Baylor @Utah St. 2029 @ MSU San Jose St. Utah St. 2030 MSU Ole Miss @ San Jose St. 2031 Hawaii 2032 tOSU 2033 @ tOSU -
I think Stanford likes having sports, but they aren't about winning for them. Most sites have Stanford with the 3rd largest endowment out of all the universities at 36.3 billion.
If they wanted to invest in sports, they always had the money. I wouldn't be surprised if they asked to join the Ivy League.
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From Stewart Mandel and The Athletic
According to three people with knowledge of the terms, Apple offered the members a five-year deal with an annual base rate of $23 million per school (a subsequent counteroffer lifted it to $25 million), with incentives based on projected subscribers to a Pac-12 streaming product akin to Apple’s MLS League Pass.
At 1.7 million subscribers, the per-school payout would match the $31.7 million average that Big 12 schools will reportedly receive from ESPN and Fox beginning in 2025. But Kliavkoff encouraged the room to think much bigger — at 5 million subscribers, the schools would eclipse $50 million per year, closer to the deep-pocketed SEC and Big Ten than the ACC or Big 12.
The MLS season pass, barely has 1 million subscribers. I think college football is bigger than MLS, but why should a conference be under the whims of subscribers?
By using the term think bigger, it had the Presidents thinking of Larry Scott and his Pac 12 Network, think bigger. The PAC did think bigger and it was the beginning of the end of the PAC.
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It will be interesting. It isn't like Rutgers and Maryland have a long history with the B1G TEN. However, Rutgers have NYC, so they will get to stay. DC surprisingly is #8 in TV market with 2.1 million viewers. They likely get to stay as well.
Those are the 2 lowest TV numbers by school for the B1G TEN. However, Maryland football averaged 971K is 2021 and 1.86 mil in 2022.
From 2022.
Which college football programs were the most-watched in 2022? | by Zach Miller | Run It Back With Zach | Medium
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The "Olympic" sports are going to the short end of the stick.
My thoughts would be to have the west coast teams have groups of road games for other sports and to stay a week. This way they wouldn't have to fly coast to coast every week. It would mean staying in hotels or VRBO, but that would be better than flying.
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Cacker Guy, Phil Knight doesn't have an endless supply of money. The deal we know about said the PAC was getting 200 mil as the base and if targets were met, would get more. While every other conference had way higher base yearly incomes.
If the B1G/SEC are making 60-80 mil for the next 6 years and the PAC is making 20 mil, how long does anybody expect them to survive that major budget deficit? That isn't 2 million, that is 40 to 60 million per year for 240 - 360 million after 6 years. Nobody can survive that and expect to stay "equal".
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Oh, I forgot about the Cal deal with UCLA. UCLA owes Cal money because of the difference in TV payment. With the PAC dissolving, UCLA is going to own Cal a whole lot more money.
What Oregon Needs as Next Promotion...
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I love the idea, but some colleges don't like the idea of connecting their university to beer. It wasn't all that long ago that Autzen couldn't sell beer in the stands because of how it looked.