Our Potential Future Schedules?

[Thomallister1291]

Giving more thought about the Big Ten x SEC alliance that will probably happen two days before our game against Ohio State, on Thursday, October 10th, I was thinking how our future schedules, which are pretty much full between next year and 2028.

 

Ofc this is an hypothetical as we don't know if the scheduling agreement will go through, much less how it will operate, but let's give some thoughts, obviously the agreement will require our Ducks and other teams like Ohio State to play one random opponent from the Southeastern Conference, but there's a catch, we already have some opponents scheduled (none from the SEC tho) like Oklahoma State and Baylor, which I'm sure will get canned in case the agreement does happen in favor of other teams like Alabama or Georgia.

 

If we exclusively schedule SEC teams as our required Power opponent, then what will happen to the other two spots reserved for cupcakes? Will we keep them or will they be changed as well? For example, there's a lot of people saying our 2-for-1 home and home series with Utah State might get cancelled as well, maybe to get the Oregon State Beavers in our schedule again, since it's likely the Pac-12 won't be considered a Power league anymore, then I hope we can play both the SEC teams and Oregon State in a single season, regardless of people's thoughts on the river rat program, if everything goes as planned and as I predicted, here could be a potential future OOC schedule:

 

Week 1: A Big Sky team like Portland State 

Week 2: The required SEC team

Week 3: Oregon State

 

I've been thinking that the scheduling agreement will happen starting in 2026, which is when the new CFP deal will take place, it will also be a key part of the discussions between our league and the SEC that start next week.

 

Regardless of what y'all think of this, I'm definitely glad that Oregon will not be left behind and is part of the Big Ten, giving us Rose Bowl-esque games each season.

 

Go Ducks!!!

[30Duck]

Having Oregon State, exclusively at Autzen, as a cupcake sounds good, or maybe the schedule works out and they can be a Weak 11 opponent like the SEC does.

[David Marsh]

If this alliance thing happens it will blow everything up and if any of the proposed super league stuff comes to fruition everything else will blow up as well. 

 

The truth is cancelling some of these scheduled games will require some payouts and I doubt Oregon, or any other p2 team, would be on the hook entirely on their own for these fees. 

 

The pace of change is accelerating and the money involved is going to be bonkers. Certainly more than enough to cover many of these canceled games.

[HDuck]

This is an SEC schedule for 2024.

Ole Miss opponents

 

Furman

Middle Tennessee

at Wake Forest

Georgia Southern

 

IF the SEC and B1G agree to an annual game, I can guarantee you the SEC would rather be dragged thru a swamp naked with alligators than agree to a 9th SEC conference game.

 

But assuming they did, I can guarantee you the B1G would be substituted for Wake, and 2 of the other 3 among Furman, Mid Tenn and Ga Southern would still be on the schedule.   There is no way Oregon should consider the other two non-conference games to include Oregon State - even if there was no home-and-home which assuredly there would be.

 

Auburn 2025

at Baylor

Ball State

South Alabama

Mercer

 

They ain't gonna have Baylor, a B1G and 9 SEC games.  It ain't happening.    And, they won't schedule Boise State, WSU, OSU, SDSU level team to take a spot on that schedule. 

[MicroBurst61]

In the 2026 season, All Bets Will be off. 

 

If you are to have two "super-conferences" (NFL-esque AFC/NFC) then any previous "agreements" between scheduling partners will become Null and Void or "bought" out with the massive amounts of TV money involved with the forming of the new NFL-lite.  No Super conference will leave their members uncompensated or they will be reimbursed in some fashion for any changes needing to be made to scheduling.

 

Value of Strength of Schedule will be another very interesting metric that the selection committee, for Decades, has been very....inconsistent...with.  No more scheduling, OR Rewarding WEAK 11 cupcakes, nor does any super conference get to use the old excuse of being "le' tired" and can't "get it up" for another conference opponent.  This time of year EVERY team is all "black and blue" from the long, physical, season regardless of conference.  An Even Playing Field is a MUST!

 

Regardless of how it happens to go, there will be winners and losers in the process.  Traditions in college football will finally be dead and buried with the rise of NFL-lite.  All we fans of the genre can do is "adapt" our entrenched ideas and expectations of what the sport "formally known as college football" is destined to become.

 

And yes.  For better or for worse, I am glad that OBD are on the Inside...looking outward, versus the other way around.

 

GO OREGON DUCKS!!!!

[OregonDucks]

It'll be interesting to see what comes out of the meeting.

 

Are we talking about a couple of marquee SEC vs. B1G games per year (e.g., Michigan vs. Texas, Ohio State vs. Alabama, Oregon vs. Georgia) or would every team have a cross conference game every year?  If the later, would they schedule based on team expectations to get the most competitive games or would the scheduling be completely random?

 

Lastly, are we talking about neutral site games or home/away games?

[Jon Joseph]

On 10/2/2024 at 10:09 PM, HDuck said:

This is an SEC schedule for 2024.

Ole Miss opponents

 

Furman

Middle Tennessee

at Wake Forest

Georgia Southern

 

IF the SEC and B1G agree to an annual game, I can guarantee you the SEC would rather be dragged thru a swamp naked with alligators than agree to a 9th SEC conference game.

 

But assuming they did, I can guarantee you the B1G would be substituted for Wake, and 2 of the other 3 among Furman, Mid Tenn and Ga Southern would still be on the schedule.   There is no way Oregon should consider the other two non-conference games to include Oregon State - even if there was no home-and-home which assuredly there would be.

 

Auburn 2025

at Baylor

Ball State

South Alabama

Mercer

 

They ain't gonna have Baylor, a B1G and 9 SEC games.  It ain't happening.    And, they won't schedule Boise State, WSU, OSU, SDSU level team to take a spot on that schedule. 

 

Yet, Texas opens its 2025 season at Ohio State. The Buckeyes return the visit in 2026 before beginning a H+H series with Alabama in 2027. Michigan plays at Oklahoma next season, then hosts the Sooners in 2026 before playing at Texas in 2027.  Georgia opened the season vs. No. 15 Clemson and will play Georgia Tech in the final game of the regular season. Thus, UGA will play 10 P4 opponents in 2024, 11 if it plays in the SEC champ game. Both UGA and OBD play in their respective champ games and the Dawgs will play 11 P-4, OBD 10. 

 

Notre Dame in 2024 plays 4 G5 opponents and will not play a 13th conference champ game. The Domers have a Bye when the top teams in the nation are playing a ranked opponent for a conference title. 

 

Mizzou and Ole Miss OOC schedules this season were a joke but so were Ohio State and Indiana's OOC slates. To date, Ohio State has the 130th SOS in the nation according to ESPN metrics. OBD 's SOS to date is 86th in the nation  The H+H series scheduled to be played between Ole Miss and USC in 2025 and 2026 was mutually canceled. Ole Miss usually plays lightweights OOC and SC with 9 conference games plus Notre Dame has enough on its plate.

 

The Point: One Size Does Not Fit All teams in any conference and with these mega-conferences, SOS in-conference varies significantly. To date, No. 1 Bama's SOS is 26, No. 4 Tennessee 75, and No. 2 Texas 89. Week 6, using the AP Poll has ONE Top 25 vs Top 25 game, barely, No. 9 Missouri at Tied No. 25 A+M. Think what the ratings would be if the seven ranked B1G teams played the top 7 ranked SEC teams on Thursday, night, Friday night, and Saturday. 

 

David Marsh, no surprise, nailed it. The Power 2 will morph into a Super Conference as soon as Sankey and Petitti, and NCAA president Baker, can get 'things' worked out. Both Power 2 commissioners know that the proposed House settlement is a stopgap and gives no long-term litigation relief to the Power 2 conferences. CFB at the champion level, which most certainly will not include the Pac-2, 4, 6, 8, or 12, and have to be able to negotiate a collective bargaining agreement with the players to bring coherence to college roster management and oversight to NIL. Then, go to Congress and obtain the same relief from litigation provided to the NFL.

 

They also know that the media deals they have today would be blown away by a Super Conference collectively taking its football game inventory to the market and/or, creating a Super Conference Network to directly market the inventory without going through 3rd party media companies. Like the NFL, the Super Conference will probably directly sell its product and work with media companies. 

 

OOC scheduling will not exist. All games will be Super Conference games to add value to the inventory. The NFL does not schedule games vs Canadian League teams. Players will, like the NFL players, own their NIL, and be directly compensated; there will be direct pay-to-play. Will there be anything 'Student' about these 'Athletes?' Down the road I expect we'll see a high school draft with negotiated limits on 'rookie' salaries and a salary cap. 

 

Meanwhile, Never, Ever, Never schedule Boise State and Never go on the road to play a G5/6 opponent. 

 

[JabbaNoBargain]

Seems clear to me the short-term aim is to guarantee 4 spots (in a 16-team field) for each of the P2 to allow them to play each other more without the risk of missing the playoffs due to increased losses. With this in mind, perhaps the interaction will be more than one cross-over game each year. I could see there being a home and road cross-over each year…this is what fans want, more big-time matchups.

 

That being said, the core philosophy of no G6 road games should become fundamental.

Edited October 3 by JabbaNoBargain

[noDucknewby]

On 10/3/2024 at 10:36 AM, JabbaNoBargain said:

That being said, the core philosophy of no G6 road games should become fundamental.

I couldn't agree more.  The exception maybe being if the Civil War gets extended (I am probably in the minority here, but I hope it survives).  We have no need for away games at teams such as Boise and Utah State.

 

Annual B1G/SEC games would be great, but only if both play the same number of conference games.  You've got to hand it to the SEC, they've played the game masterfully with their scheduling, playing a late season cupcake while the B1G and the Pac-12 teams were beating up on each other.  Every year it seemed someone got knocked out of the playoff while the SEC teams had a defacto bye week.

 

Assuming we're to remain at 9 conference games I'd like to see:

 

1.  Warm-up FCS opponent at home

2.  SEC showcase game either home/home or neutral (really neurtral, NOT Georgia in Atlanta!).

3.  Civil War at home (screw the barkrats and their cheesy little stadium).

 

Doubt the rodents would agree to this, but regardless we should never have more than one away game in the pre-season.

 

[30Duck]

On 10/4/2024 at 9:34 AM, noDucknewby said:

1.  Warm-up FCS opponent at home

2.  SEC showcase game either home/home or neutral (really neurtral, NOT Georgia in Atlanta!).

3.  Civil War at home (screw the barkrats and their cheesy little stadium).

Agree with all of these particularly the SEC idea of neutral. The Ducks should never set a webfoot inside the refurbished, yet still cheesy, little stadium again

[HDuck]

If neutral meant Atlanta or Dallas on a regular basis, how many would rather just not see an SEC annual and rather consider a home-and-home with Cal, Stanford, Arizona, ASU, Utah....that is, venues located in areas where the Ducks have historically recruited?

 

There is no way Oregon would ever win a public relations argument to avoid playing at Reser.   So, FCS, rotating Group of 5 opponent, rotating FBS opponent.   (Though, I might be talked into selling my Ernie Kent collectibles to finance a trip to Ole Miss.  laugh)