Red Eddy Green No. 1 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Pac 12 forms Alumni Council to better perceive and strengthen the state of football on the West Coast. Includes Oregon pro tackle Tyrell Crosby and Mike Bellotti From ESPN. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywarduck Moderator No. 2 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Sounds like an ex-player council, much like the group who are trying to influence the decisions at Oregon. The Pac-12 is tapping into former football stars, and calling them alumni, maybe fans if necessary to make everyone feel heard. Time for George to lead! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyToBeADuck No. 3 Share Posted December 21, 2021 On 12/20/2021 at 1:11 PM, Haywarduck said: Sounds like an ex-player council, much like the group who are trying to influence the decisions at Oregon. The Pac-12 is tapping into former football stars, and calling them alumni, maybe fans if necessary to make everyone feel heard. Time for George to lead! Yes time for George to lead The PAC will improve when all 12 schools are committed financially as Oregon and USC. And with more coaches like Shaw and Whittingham. Coaches committed to player development. Improvement will come with better scheduling. How often do Bama and Georgia meet in conference play. Set it up so your powerhouse teams meet less in conference play and more in the P-12 Championship game Profile will rise when the coaches and players take the Mountain West teams more serious. And win those games. Try beating BYU sometime. SEC schedules to win, recruits to win and coaches to win. It's life or death to them. It's not lip service. No explayers or alumni group is going to round table the profile up in the eyes of the media This conference needs more money, better TV exposure and the will to win. Coaches, players and fans included. Half full stadiums don't raise profiles. This is probably wrong to point out. But here goes. If I was the Cal AD, I would be looking for a new HC. Any coach who turns down the chance to coach at a high profile school that is all in to reach the CFP and win a Natty....... Well that coach just told me he is not interested in taking his current program there either. Doesn't matter if the offer was a low ball offer. I want a coach who wants to take a chance on himself. Win big and the contract offer increases Nothing against Wilcox but that's one of the reasons the PAC has an embarrassing profile. Cal AD and administration don't really care. They are just glad to have a coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck No. 4 Share Posted December 21, 2021 On 12/20/2021 at 4:14 PM, HappyToBeADuck said: Well that coach just told me he is not interested in taking his current program there either. Touchdown! Nick Saban has earned the right to be content where he is. Every other coach needs to have the drive to move up. In every job interview the employer will ask, "Where do you see yourself in a couple of years?" If you answer, if you don't answer that you want to be on the other side of the desk by then, you're out the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Devil Herb No. 5 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Line someone wrote about financial commitment. USC private school and can do anything they want. Read interesting article and the other PAC12 schools have to be financially responsible. According to USA Today was shocked that only one (1) PAC 12 school in terms total generating revenue was listed in the Top 25 and in addition the most profitable and made Top 20. The ugly Dawgs of the NW. Stated $133M in revenue profited over $50M. Oregon State was the worst Power 5 program in America @ $87M. Another note __ Stanford does not run their athletic department like normal ones. Like Vanderbilt ALL based on fund raising and NO marketing. Except the Nike agreement. Oregon investment PK straight and simple and his love ___ These other Pac 12 schools their Board of Regents won't invest ___ Like Utah how did the get better in facilities __ U.S. Olympics paid for ALL that infrastructure. Just stating facts the PAC 12 up against. Revenue for each Power 5 Conference: Big 10 @ $768M. <> #1 Revenue Ohio State SEC @ $728M. <> #1 Revenue Bama Pac-12 @ $533.M <> #1 Revenue UW ACC @ $496M. <> #1 Revenue North Carolina Big 12 @409M. <> #1 Texas Note: Profit balance sheet the UW was in the Top Twenty @18 ____ Thank god Ducks have football because basketball written only made $200K. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 6 Share Posted December 21, 2021 On 12/20/2021 at 7:14 PM, HappyToBeADuck said: Yes time for George to lead The PAC will improve when all 12 schools are committed financially as Oregon and USC. And with more coaches like Shaw and Whittingham. Coaches committed to player development. Improvement will come with better scheduling. How often do Bama and Georgia meet in conference play. Set it up so your powerhouse teams meet less in conference play and more in the P-12 Championship game Profile will rise when the coaches and players take the Mountain West teams more serious. And win those games. Try beating BYU sometime. SEC schedules to win, recruits to win and coaches to win. It's life or death to them. It's not lip service. No explayers or alumni group is going to round table the profile up in the eyes of the media This conference needs more money, better TV exposure and the will to win. Coaches, players and fans included. Half full stadiums don't raise profiles. This is probably wrong to point out. But here goes. If I was the Cal AD, I would be looking for a new HC. Any coach who turns down the chance to coach at a high profile school that is all in to reach the CFP and win a Natty....... Well that coach just told me he is not interested in taking his current program there either. Doesn't matter if the offer was a low ball offer. I want a coach who wants to take a chance on himself. Win big and the contract offer increases Nothing against Wilcox but that's one of the reasons the PAC has an embarrassing profile. Cal AD and administration don't really care. They are just glad to have a coach. Few Pac-12 schools have the money and/or the will to compete at the highest level of P5 football. WAZZU made no effort to retain Leach. Ditto CU and Mel Tucker. USC, Oregon and UW are the 3 Pac-12 schools in Forbes list of the top 25 CFB teams by all-in revenue. The vast majority on the list are SEC and B1G schools. OK and TX, both on the list are of course headed to the SEC. I see no way that GK will pull a media deal rabbit out of his hat. The conference is getting left behind the B1G and the SEC; much farther behind. No way is CAL going to pay Wilcox' buy out. Wilcox not taking the job does not give CAL a reason to fire him with cause. Oregon, USC, UW and Utah where fans care and CU where fans kind of care, are in a bad, bad spot. What is going to incent CAL, Stanford, Arizona fans, etc. to turn out for home games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 7 Share Posted December 21, 2021 On 12/21/2021 at 11:49 AM, Sun Devil Herb said: Line someone wrote about financial commitment. USC private school and can do anything they want. Read interesting article and the other PAC12 schools have to be financially responsible. According to USA Today was shocked that only one (1) PAC 12 school in terms total generating revenue was listed in the Top 25 and in addition the most profitable and made Top 20. The ugly Dawgs of the NW. Stated $133M in revenue profited over $50M. Oregon State was the worst Power 5 program in America @ $87M. Another note __ Stanford does not run their athletic department like normal ones. Like Vanderbilt ALL based on fund raising and NO marketing. Except the Nike agreement. Oregon investment PK straight and simple and his love ___ These other Pac 12 schools their Board of Regents won't invest ___ Like Utah how did the get better in facilities __ U.S. Olympics paid for ALL that infrastructure. Just stating facts the PAC 12 up against. Revenue for each Power 5 Conference: Big 10 @ $768M. <> #1 Revenue Ohio State SEC @ $728M. <> #1 Revenue Bama Pac-12 @ $533.M <> #1 Revenue UW ACC @ $496M. <> #1 Revenue North Carolina Big 12 @409M. <> #1 Texas Note: Profit balance sheet the UW was in the Top Twenty @18 ____ Thank god Ducks have football because basketball written only made $200K. Great take. The Forbes list I cite below is as of 2019. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 8 Share Posted December 21, 2021 HOW ABOUT - Drop Divisions, go to 8 conference games, BK the network or find a media partner that will get the network up on all major cable carriers,, do not schedule 1 off games as does the likes of New Mexico State, get out of the Alamo Bowl and make Vegas the site of where to Pac-12 runner-up plays, adjust conference revenue distribution according to the amount a given school invests in football, play games in the daylight and stream the games for the rest of the day. As for the Ducks in particular. Consider moving to the "new B12.' Why stay 'as-is' with partners who spend no where near what you do in recruiting and general football operations. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
