David Marsh

I'm not sure entering into the public arena helps anyone but gives the fans something to dissect and speculate on. I do feel there are things being told to various media outlets to create rumor and speculation to try and undermine and disrupt the process. The big-12 wants to see the PAC die. Fox and ESPN wouldn't mind seeing it die because that could bolster their own pet conferences. So what does George K gain by coming out and saying anything other than... "We are working on it and we are making progress" with the assumption they are making progress.

TCU has an incredibly small student body last I checked. So yeah they have probably been one of the more successful programs in the Big-12 but they don't have the same following as the big brands do. They certainly have a regional following but their foot print is nothing compared to what the Big-12 lost in Texas and Oklahoma. To me it does feel like the Big-12 is parading around claiming to be bigger than they actually are. For all hurt the loss of the LA market is the Pac does have a bigger market footprint than the Big-12. However, when media companies would much rather watch the conference break apart than pay it what it's due that doesn't seem to matter.

On the football front I don't think Colorado has much hope on the PAC in terms of meeting some of their desired goals. Right now we talk about how Oregon is going to be just fine regardless. Oregon in a weak PAC will have access to the playoff. But I can't see really any other teams than the top team in the PAC getting in on a regular basis, there will be too much big league bias. The big -12 is really now a G5+.conference. BYU, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech are their big brands. Those are still smaller than Oregon, Washington and Utah (though Utah is probably on par with BYU). I think even San Diego will be more valuable in the long haul. Colorado holds a good media market but they have had one good season upon entering the PAC. I think some of the calculus with the big-12 is they may become a bigger fish in a potentially less talented pond. Though they'd never say that. But if Colorado leaves will the PAC survive? Thats a bigger question.

Well it couldn't happen to a more deserving team.

Case and point one of the biggest targets on the west coast and in southern California and... No USC hat in that lot. B1G is represented though... By Ohio State.

I don't think Utah is a principal rival... I think they are a rival. I think UW, USC and Oregon State get to take a front seat to them. In the mid 2010's I would have said Stanford held that spot but they have since faded.

Didnt ucf join the big-12 and their media rights are locked up for some time now?

Go Ducks! I have a couple colleagues at work who are beavers and I know they probably won't appreciate this so I'll try not to rub it in too much. Especially when baseball is their sport. Talk about building a program at Oregon. Baseball went from non-existent to winning the conference in a relatively short time.

It comes down to who do you trust and who has earned that trust. I have found that I will tend to trust Canzano over other sources I'm not as familiar with most because they are usually outside of the pac-12s orbit. Personally I find that Canzano, at least on his new site, has been rather measured and has done a great job with sourcing in other non-conference related stories. He often says he has sources that are from within many of the universities and I feel he has probably built those relationships to get some information. Now is he going to be right? Maybe who knows, we'll find out when it all finally goes down. But I don't feel he is going out of his way to sensationalize every tidbit of information he says. One of the things I find that is trust worthy is one of the lines where... It's a short response and it at least feels like it's coming from an source. Obviously we don't know exactly who the source is but it feels like a reasonable response. He's not giving us crazy numbers, just a comment. Now I know my personal bias is that I'd like to see the Pac-12 continue to exist. I've even gone on the record saying how he collapse of the PAC would be awful for the whole sport. Why the Pac-12's Survival is in Everyone's Interest FISHDUCK.COM We are firmly back in the off-season, and conference realignment talk is back in full force. There has been... So I personally like the sound of that quite. Could Canzano be wrong? Absolutely! Though he has really gone out of his way for this new venture of his to do solid reporting and knowing the clicks will come and not just create clickbait. Canzono has always been well networked. I know he rubbed a lot of people the wrong way when he was at the Oregonian and if you're one of the, that's fine, you do you. I'm just sharing my perspective. Go Ducks!

And it would take a few years for people to get used to it as a destination for watching live sports content. It will be pretty telling how much streaming is growing based on the NFL Thursday night football numbers Thai upcoming season over last season.

I would love to keep the FCS game local. I'm cool with PSU or even Eastern Washington as the money does stay in the north west. Eastern Washington is probably the team from that northern state is hate the least in truth.... Which is saying something because they broke Vernon Adam's finger! What If Vernon Adams Didn't Break His Finger in 2015? FISHDUCK.COM The 2015 season saw Oregon turn to a one-year graduate transfer in Vernon Adams, and that move could have...

It feels like it is getting harder for Oregon to even sell all the tickets to FCS opponent games. Oregon v Portland state this year isn't going to be a good game as of how one sided it will be but I'll watch because I can't not. I think some of the thought process of the PAC going to 8 games was to then schedule an additional game with the B1G or ACC back when that "alliance" was still trying to go somewhere other than just a publicly stunt that resulted in a B1G back stab or sorts.

If they don't work they won't start. There is plenty of talent that wants to start and that means there is loads of competition. Most of the transfers only have 1 year of eligibility on them anyways so they won't hold the roster back so much if they don't actually end up playing and being a bust. Some of the transfers have 2 years of eligibility but even then the turn over will be a whole lot higher.

My guess is that ESPN isn't out but they are refusing to offer what the PAC may be worth. We are a filler conference in their eyes and we should fill the 7pm time slot and like it. But if we go elsewhere... Oh that's a big problem for them. Because sure they can pay the mountain west pennies to fill those 7pm slots but they won't draw anywhere near the eyeballs the PAC does.

I have students who "punish" me when they get a bad grade by refusing to do other assignments. It never ends well for those in either scenario.

One thing I came across was that SDSUs buyout to leave the Mountain west doubles by July. So some announcements need to happen sooner than later by the look of it.

This basically happened for two weeks last year. In the week leading up to the Utah game Nix didn't practice at all. He mentally practiced but not physically. Then the week leading up to the Oregon state game Nix practiced a bit more but Thompson still got a bulk of the reps with the ones. My concern about Thompson isn't how he practices. It sounds like he practices well and is very coachable in practice. My concern is how that doesn't translate to a game. He has all the physical tools to make it big. He used those tools in high school where he was far more physically gifted than his competition. He doesn't have that buffer anymore so he must be more confident, know the system better and execute at a higher rate than he needed to in high school. He hasn't shown he can make that leap yet. He did look better in the spring game... But he needs to carry his practice into the game from what it sounds like.

I think if the conference gets paid well enough the fan base will swallow it for now. The problem is that those late night games don't bring in the same kind of eyeballs as earlier games because the east coast isn't staying awake for them. so the networks don't want to pay for them at full price but the bargain rate because they aren't primetime games. Pay each PAC member 50 mil and I'll live with a bunch of 7 pm start times... Just long enough until Oregon wins a national title and demands better game times. Also... Friday night games would be something interesting to offer as well.

And ESPN wants it on the cheap if they can. Streaming isn't quite there yet for numbers and ESPN knows this and I wouldn't be surprised if they are trying to leverage it to get the PAC on the cheap. Fox would probably like to see the PAC collapse so they can push Oregon and Washington to the B1G and they consolidate the west coast. Right now I can just see ESPN wanting PAC games for that late night spot but doesn't want to give them earlier time slots because they want those for their prizes conference, the SEC. I do feel the problem with the PAC right now is that the conference isn't seen as worthy of primetime, certynit east coast primetime, but we are good filler but filler doesn't cost big dollars.

They both should get plenty of opportunities against PSU. But whoever has more control of the offense should get more against Hawaii. I do think it's worth trying to preserve Novosad's redshirt if possible.

Well... It might push those LA teams to leave at some point if they have to play even more games on the east coast. Or the la teams beg for otherwise coast teams to join because they can't take the travel costs. Either way, I'd love to watch the groveling.

I'm sure he'll get some offers but I agree this is his dream job and maybe Oregon state is going to have to get him some more cash but I would be super shocked if he leaves.. And Oregon state will do all it can to keep him there.

ACC is a bad choice... Not just from a travel perspective but mostly because they are actually in a worse position than the PAC in terms of media payouts. So that would be a double downgrade for the Ducks in terms of less money and way more travel. The big-12 would be simply worse than the B1G all around. Lots more travel and less money. So even if numbers with the new PAC deal are comparable with the big-12 it would just mean increased travel costs so no real gain. So really besides the PAC the only real alternative is the B1G. But my favorite alternative is a PAC and ACC merger of sorts. Which seems bad and weird on paper but look at it this way. They wouldn't do a full mix of conference games. It would be broken into two regions and further more it could be cool to do some cross division games and also there could be a mini tournament for a coastal conference championship. The winner of the PAC vs the winner of the ACC. That would draw some eyeballs.

Shouldn't these athletes just wait a year and go after the B1G instead? They have much deeper pockets now. Also what happens if this case continues on after the conference realignment? I know legally all parties will continue but at that point the PAC might file a motion for dismissal as USC isn't in the conference. Granted if these attletes have graduated they may be looking for back wages or something of the like and that keeps the PAC still in the case. Just going to wait for realignment problems.

Gone but the damage is still done. It might be the doom if the conference as undoing that damage is pretty savere.