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Of course I will be wrong on this thought but arent academics supposed to ve intelligent? Do none of these 10 schools have business departments, with graduates who have gone on to build successful companies? Graduates who could have given great advice...... Like when your valuation is $500 million with 12 schools, then 2 schools with $200 in tv valuation leave and the remaoning 10 schools still want $50million each? Whoever made that suggestion or sold the 10 on that negotiating stance NEEDS TO CARRY THE BLAME AND BE FIRED! And that would include the Presidents/Chancellors, GK and league advisors. I feel sorry for the remaining 4 schools but offer no pity. They helped vote themselves into this situation.......

IMHO opinion, the Ducks should never play an OOC game on the road after they conclude their contract committments. Any road games should be conference matchups, only. OBD's dont need to schedule any big time neutral site games. Its not necessary....... There will be seasons we will have Michigan, tOSU and Iowa on the schedule. Or Penn State, Michigan and Wisconsin. Thats plenty of SOS. Not to mention the west coast teams. Duck fans should have 3 home OOC games to attend that are fun and provide valuable playing time for backups. GO DUCKS.....

Fan talk and bantor means absolutely nothing. If Beaver fans dont want to play us thats okay. I think scheduling the games will be difficult if the BIG stays at 9 conferences games. Damn near impossible at 10 games. However, money will dictate whether the Beavers play the Ducks at Autzen in future years. Lets say the Ducks pay the Beavs $1 million to play in Eugene. Thats a lot of money..... The MWC Commissioner said the schools receive beyween 5 & 6 million dollars annually from TV partners. So a single game at Autzen could represent 20% of OSU football revenue. The strapped for cash Beavers athletic department will not care what the fans think.

Fun stuff to read and ponder, thanks NJDuck for posting. 3 observations: First, 8 teams in next years BIG are in the TOP 25. Srcond, 5 teams in next years BIG are on the TOP 10. The TOP10 is a great place to begin on your drive to the CFP. Third, the BIG Conference is ruled by MIchigan, tOSU and PSU. This fan will be patient as it takes rime to change that perception. OBD's and the other 3 West Coast teams will have to prove it on the field. The best part is we will get our chance. Anyone of those 3 powerhouse football programs will have to go thru the west coast schools, too. The BIG schedule creates multiple potential CFP play in games. There will be no excuses if OBD's dont make it to the CFP. They will have their chances on the field. This is very exciting......

I think tOSU, Michigan and Penn State really catch a break in this format. There will be seasons where all three will not face each other. Just the protected game. Big advantage in missing a game against a Top 10 team. The West Coast BIG Teams will, most likely face each other. Not many teams with usuck, uclasuck, uw and the Ducks on their schedule run that table. Usuck missed uw and UO last season and that was 2 losses they may have dodged. No longer will that be the case. I like, with a 10 game schedule, that each team will face off every 2 years. If i read that correct in the article. So at some point we could have a season where we have usuck, uclasuck, uw, tOSU, Michigan and PSU. WOW....... OBDF Members we got some big time games on the horizon. GO DUCKS......

When its all said and done, if the Beavers play Oregon, the Ducks will be the highest ranked team the rodents play in any season. Most teams cherish a top 15 matchup. Nothing to lose and everyhthing to gain. However: If the Beavs go to MWC = Paycut Beavs stay in P4 And then build to P8 or better= Paycut Beavs and P4 merge with AAC or the MWC= Paycut Men and womens sports will be cut. Staffs trimmed, maybe pay cuts. JS has done a brilliant job at OSU. He is a P5 coach with P5 assistants. They have to take care of their families. Money may trump loyalty... Not to mention what may happen in the portal. GEEZ... The Beavers have alot more on their plate than scheduling a game against the Ducks. Their world got set upside down a few days ago. What we had in the past may not be in the future. Decisions, good and bad, have consequences.

Very excited for Popo to return to the field. He is another fierce defender that the offense must account for. Let's hope Popo has the kind of season that propels the Ducks to the CFP. And launches Popo to the NFL. GO DUCKS......

What little respect i had for the PAC is gone. It's understandable for rats to abandon a sinking ship. Survival! But these rats are despicable. Especially the one who wanted to eat two of the survivors. This was a rudderless group of arrogant, pompeous know it alls. The PAC 12 has been entrusted for years by people who simply could care less. It shows in the final outcome.

Charles thanks for the analysis and breakdown on this play. The screen shota were fantastic and they illustrate the confusion this D formation can cause a QB. Especially to a young inexperienced QB. Not knowing where the blitz or pressure will come from creates QB happy feet or panic. Dorlus played the position correctly and broke up the play. Discipline to your assignment is critical because the PAC, top to bottom, has a line up of future NFL QB's. The screen shot and live play also show us how impotant speed plays in causing havoc. If the blitzers ran a 4.3 or 4.4 instead of 4 5 or 4.6 they would have hands on the NC QB..... Or forced a scramble....... DL and staff have recruited some fast defenders in the 23 and 24 classes. Including the freaks. GO DUCKS.........

We could consider that it may have come down to linear exposure for the athletes. And what that exposure or lack of exposure would have done to future recruiting. Maybe not think in terms of the money offered but in the terms of lost 4 and 5☆ recruits over a 6 year term. As we are starting to hear, one of USC's reason for leaving was to gain a recruiting advantage in SoCal over the Ducks. (Come to USC and you will be on national TV, virtually every game. Playing against some powerhouse schools, CFP appearances and not looking for your family and friends to buy a streaming subscription.) If OBD's lost 1 to 2 blue chippers, each year, over a 6 year period that would be a significant reduction in quality and depth. They wouldnt have all gone to usuck but our dominance over usuck could have been diminshed. Also, if streaming becomes the dominant number, FOX will move more content into streaming. I cannot stress the importance of being a part of a conference and network that will be a dominant player going forward. The money will not be a concern going forward in the BIG. Our Ducks will be on national tv and with some better kick off times. What's more important than the money is being able to compete and win against 17 other BIG Conference teams. Some, whose squads are in the Top 5. Winning the BIG, making the CFP and winning a Natty takes TOP 5 recruiting classes. Year in and year out. Nothing but 4 and 5☆ athletes that fill DL's vision. I ask the Forum which direction will lead us there? Playing and winning on National TV against tOSU, UM, PSU, usc, IOWA, WHISKY, MSU, ucla and UW. Or streaming games, that viewership numbers are not certain, against Stanford, WSU etc? This FOX/BIG deal was done a few weeks back as a contingent plan. It happened too fast to not have the leg work done. Love this Forum but i for one want to look forward and not backwards. GO DUCKS.......

There is no pressure on the P4 and MWC to get this done quickly. They wont have the media, other conferences and outside aoutces trying to undermine their plans. Let the laywers take care of the legal matters for this to take place. Start negotiations with ESPN, CW and Apple. Maybe Tuesday/Wednesday on CW Apple on Friday after Dark and Satuday day games. ESPN Saturday after dark. If they can get 10 - 15 million a year this can work. Bring in SMU and Tulane. More games equals more content. Personally, its a bad break for the remaining P4 teams but they can and will carve out their future. Best advice or word of caution: Dont let GK do your negotiating. Goodness gracious the PAC has sure had some terrible commissioners.........

Please no more big time games. Depending on scheduling we could have games against 4 to 7 top 25 teams. The Ducks will have nothing to prove in their OOC games. Schedule 2 or 3 home games that allow the backups valuable playing time. Its a whole new world. We are no longer (in 2024) in a conference that lacked respect that needed a big time game dor SOS. We just got invited ro be a member of the BIG. Some years the schedule will be brutal. Georgia, BAMA and LSU have plenty of cupcakes on their schedules. They win Natty's.

I certainly have no knowledge or understanding of the BIG's scheduling plan. That universe centers around tOSU, UM and PSU. They are the true powers in that world. All 4 new schools will need to perform at a high level and earn respect with victories. Having those 4 schools play each other annually leaves 6 more conference games to be scheduled. Three trips east at the max for the 4 west coast newbies. Three east schools head west. That would be per team. However, we have not been privy to how our new big partners feel about their end of the travel schedule. Some one will figure it out, create the schedule and try to make it as equitable as possible. We just have to, as fans, turn on our viewing devices and enjoy this new journey.

That makes sense on many levels. As many have asked, including myself; Why would a media company that is entirely a "SPORTS BROADCASTING NETWORK" not want P5 football content? Those "wankers" at ESPN wanted it all along. My intuition tells me that once GK and the presidents demanded near $50 milluon per school during the open window that FOX and ESPN left those negotations knowing the PAC had no place to go Time was on the medias side. Also FOX has plenty of content to sell ESPN to cover costs or make a profit. Some of the west coast BIG games may end up at 7 pm pst.

Its a long time until Dec early signing day. We all know that DL and staff have not and will not stop building their relationship with recruits who have verbally committed elsewhere No more worry on what conference the Ducks will be playing in. A Top level 4 and 5☆ recruits no longer have to worry about being seen on national TV in one of many spectacular Duck uniforms. I am confident that GK's slow play, no hurry approach to a media deal cost the Ducks a few recruits. Also, on the surface it appears the road to the CFP will be more challenging in the BIG. However a 10-2 or 11-2 record in the PAC did not come with an automatic CFP invite unless you were PAC champs. In the BIG, finish 3rd at 10-2, with closes losses to tOSU and UM will probably get you an Invite. WHY? Because you will have beat usc, ucla, uw and maybe Iowa or Whisky or Nebraska in that year. The schedule will matter a great deal and major Duck games will be on national tv and recruits will be watching. Can you imagine a 10-1 Duck team playing a 9-2 husky team the day after Thanksgiving? 4 pm pst kickoff with FOX and the BIG network promoting it. BIG TIME OBDF.... I know many would prefer OSU vs Ducks on that day. However, let this sink in, the Beavs are not a conference opponent anymore. My guess is FOX and our BIG Conference partners will come to view UO vs uw as the last gane rivalry, just like tOSU vs Michigan or usuck vs uclasuck. The future for the DUCKS is the BIG.. ..GO DUCKS!

This is priceless and just one of the perks that comes with being invited into the BIG. usuck and their fans are the gift that just keeps on giving. Now this will be an annual gift. The one poster was right on. It truly was 2 outs, bottom of the nineth and a 0-2 count. I will be humble and thankful for the invite. It brought the best outcome to a difficult situation. The one poster needs to get a refund from usuck or whatever school he was educated at. Especially if he is a math major. With 3 games against the 3 old PAC opponents and three OOC conference games we will be lucky to face 3 BIG opponents? WTH... Does that add up to 12? He/she is so upset that addition is lost to his/her mind. Guess they will have to wait until the schedule comes out and discover the other 3 games will be conferences matchups with BIG teams. PRICELESS.........

As I have read and listened to comments from officials and coaches from Stanford, Cal, OSU and WSU, as well as the pundits, a few meaningless thoughts, to share. i take exception to their criticism of Oregon and UW destroying the conference for more money. That ball got rolling by usuck and uclasuck. From that point on the 10 presidents and GK made repeated business mistakes that put them in this dire situation. They all did this....... As for money, the Apple offer was a low ball smack in the face to ALL PAC members. If you want to grow a sports broadcasting network, then pay the entertainers. Apple misread the room. They did not anticipate the BIG invite for the 2 PAC anchors. End of story..... However, lets flip this lazy, whining narrative by CAL, Stanford, WSU and OSU around. Many of you wont like this, so here goes. Those 4 schools brought very little dollar value to the table. They have done well with the $20 milluon per year under the current linear contract. Apple offered $20 million, plus incentives. With less immediate exposure. That money worked for those 4 schools. Not for others Those schools want UO and UW to take less money and get less exposure. And cast guilt on those schools for destroying the PAC. That's BS. A load of BS. Dont tell me its about greed and money you 2 faces hypocrits.... You want the $20 million so you dont have to take $4 million in the MWC........ Its okay that UO and uw get undervalued for their brand so you dont have to take less. Shut the hec up and get busy fixing the mess you are in. You have options with the MWC, expansion invites, Apple, CW and espn. Instead of riding coattails build your brands or shut the hec up ......

JJ, it was refreshing to watch and listen to the positive view of the Ducks on the BIG Network........ No negative, no talking down and zero east coast bias toward the Ducks. The announcers and their guests were genuinely excited about both brands being added to the conference. With the addition of the 4 west coast schools and their media markets the BIG is and will be the strongest Coast to Coast Conference in CF. With a network in place that reaches millions more viewers for OBD's. Doesnt matter if BIG fans love us or hate us. Millions more will be watching..... GO DUCKS........

The G5 Big 12 Commish has openly bragged that he wants a West Coast presence Now he can put his money where his mouth is........ The Beavs and Cougs have ready made P5 Programs that can compete in their conference. They could provide ESPN with Little Big After Dark Games. It is a very dangerous game playing the Beavs and Cougs after 7 pm. I have great respect for both programs. Hope it works out for both schools.

Well usc, ucla and uw will have the same travel situation. Thus the playing field is equal for the 4 west coast schools joining the BIG..... usc and ucla will no longer have a recruiting edge over OBD's... The only difference is the massive increase in exposure for all 4 schools. The BIG Network viewership dwarfs the reach of the P-12 Networks. Watched the BIG Network for hours tonight. Its high quality and top notch. National pundits and sports broadcasters were talking positive about the Ducks and huskies. Starting in 2024 more 8 year olds across the country will be watching OBD's each season for years to come. Recruits all over the country will watch our Ducks on linear TV in those seasons we play tOSU, PSU, MSU, Michigan, Iowa, Whisky! As well as usc, ucla and uw. Autzen fans will have some powerhouse games to attend each season. The TV pregame hosts and game announcers will not be talking down our Ducks. Recruits will be watching and attending some of those games. And OBD's have some of the best recruiters in CF. Not to mention a head coach building a Georgia/SEC defense. More exposure means more freaks watching the Ducks. That bodes well...... GO DUCKS!

Goodness, glad I have the BIG 10 Network. So much fun to hear positive words about the Ducks and huskies. BIG announcers are excited about adding 2 Top 25 Media markets. And excited about the 4 West Coast teams. GO DUCKS........

Granted their will be many varied opinions on this subject, including mine. Many will nit pic the details and the optics, thats okay...... Congratulations to the U of O for this excellant move to sit at the big table. No uncertainty of the future for athletics. The future of CF and the CFP runs thru the BIG and SEC. No matter the decisions we are now part of the decision making process. Linear exposure at the highest level will enhance recruiting for our Ducks. So many pro's..... Now we can continue our DOMINANCE of uw, usc and ucla. And take the program to the highest level climbing over tOSU, Michigan and Penn State. The BIG took a giant leap forward with best of the west. And our Ducks did too. Now lets win a Natty for PK and the fans. The icing on the cake is foiling usc's back stabbing plans....... Holy moly, glad this old chapter is ending and the big time is upon us. Now the talking heads at FOX, ABC and others have no reason to talk us down. GO DUCKS.......

JCar thanks for posting your thoughts in OBDF. All point of views are welcome, so post often. The road to the playoff will be more difficult in the BIG. Having to beat or wrestle away a CFP spot from tOSU, Michigan, Penn State and the POS entitled Trojans would be a greater challenge than being in the G5 Big 12. However, the Ducks would have to beat any of these teams in the CFP match ups anyway. The annual pay, linear exposure, better kickoff times and a level recruiting field against usc as a BIG member has more appeal than being in the big 12. Thats just my viewpoint. Others on this Forum want the PAC to hold together while some like the Big 12. However nobody has invited us anywhere other than Apple. What would yoir preference be?

The angst of the self centered Trojan fan is the gift that keeps on giving. The very things they accuse the Ducks of doing is what they did to the PAC. Its just priceless..... All the Trojans had to say to GK, right up front was that they would not agree or sign a GOR without unequal distribution. Let GK know that LS had ignored their concerns and it must be addressed. Its about honesty and integrity and they have none.

This,Forum simply rocks... The passion, diversity of thoughts and range of vision make this such a great place. And its a safe, protected space... The topics of a media deal and expansion has my head spinning and on the verge of a meltdown. Its great to be alive and part of all this speed of light movement evolving around the media deal. GK has said from the beginning, the very beginning that the next PAC media deal would have a substantial streaming presence. We all shared our thoughts on who that would be. Apple put enough out on the table for GK to lay out the vision. Good for them...... They are a forward thinking company and a good partner for the PAC moving into the future. GK also said that he wanted a linear presense. As of today that linear network has not come front and center. Many, myself included, thought ESPN would take PAC After Dark games. So far thats a big no.... As is human nature we have Forum members going back and forth about adding or not adding another subscription. Well keep this in mind, you cable subscribers will have to add a subscription if you want all of ESPN's content within a few years. Cord cutters, too. If the PAC takes the offer from Apple we have a choice to subscribe or not. But the PAC will taken the plunge as a P5 Conference. So here we are, a few days removed and nobody has left the conference, yet.... We heard from GK and the CEO Committee that the longer this drags on that the better the options have become for the PAC. i wonder what those options are and are they still on the table as options. The PAC has 3 options, IMHO! Hope to get low ball offer from the BIG but know large money is on the horizon with eventual full shares. They will have to go over/thru tOSU, Michigan, Penn State and USC for one of 3 invites to the CFP.... A BIG Western Division could provide less travel. Maybe 2 or 3 games back east each season. Maybe $35-$40 million Or they get an even lower option invite from the little league Big 12 conference for even less money. Maybe $31.7 million.Be the Power Brand and make CFP 3 out of 4 years. I they get no invite but go with Apple, keep the PAC's core and roll the dice. Position yourself for the next round of expansion, keep your greatest rivals and make annual CFP appearances. And know that linear broadcasts will be reserved for the big games. And streaming may dominate. I suppose it will be the course that meets Oregons goals. On an average day, I interact with about 75 to hundred people. Most under 30 years old. They are the future. Guess what phone they have? I can tell you its not an Android. If apple chooses to advertise the Pac big time, remember milluons of teenagers are on their I-Phones every minute of everyday. The future snook up fast. Imagine where we be in 5 years.......