Jon Joseph

Logical. The D3 should not control the G5/P5. CBS says this will delay the rule for all teams. We'll see.

Terrific take. I agree that the B1G will add Left Coast teams when the next media deal comes around. I just hope that it will be Oregon and UW and not CAL and Stanford which I think the two LA teams would prefer. Add all 4 and you have 20 teams. Add two more from the Pac-12, (CU, Utah - AAU member schools?), or 2 from B12 (KS and IA St are AAU members) and/or 4 from the ACC (Georgia Tech, UNC, Duke, and UVA are AAU members.) If the ACC folds I think Notre Dame will have to go to a conference and it will fold if the B1G takes 4 ACC teams and the SEC adds Clemson, FSU, Miami, and NC State.) I think 24 teams with 6 four-team pods would make sense for both the B1G and the SEC. This could happen earlier in 2026 if the B1G and the SEC want to put a lock on the playoff. The game of musical conference chairs is far from over.

My running skills these days are not pleasant.

It will be very interesting to see the B1G inventory that NBC will broadcast. I believe NBC is hoping for a Notre Dame broadcast followed by a Left Coast broadcast of UCLA or USC. These would be a great lead-in and follow-up game for NBC, But will Fox allow this kind of inventory for NBC? I can see a situation where the west coast games could be broadcast on linear TV by Fox and also streamed on Peacock. And where will CBS fit in the B1G broadcast mix? Losing the SEC to ESPN means lots of CFB broadcast openings for CBS. I wonder how many Fox Big Noon games (9 AM body clock start for the LA reams) will feature UCLA and USC?

What happened to the committee SEC commissioner Greg Sankey co-chaired that was supposed to separate G5 and P5 regulation from the NCAA? D3 concerns will hold up the no-clock stoppage for 1st downs for at least the 2023 season. Oregon's opponent Texas Tech ran the most plays from the line of scrimmage in 2022 and has to be loving this. Amherst, Bowdoin, and Williams, among 432 D3 football schools should not be involved with G5 and P5 rule-making. Cats (and birds) should not play with big dog tails.

Know thy enemy. Sun Tzu One thing for certain, Utah is not going chicken spit OOC in 2023, Florida in SLC, and a trip to Waco. Whew! Only 4 Pac-12 road games? But three are at Oregon State, USC, and UW. https://collegefootballnews.com/schedules/utah-football-schedule-2023-analysis-breakdown-3-things-to-know

A B1G writer is concerned about the B1G dropping a P5 OOC opponent. He's not happy about this. aturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/hickey-backing-out-of-power-5-scheduling-requirement-would-be-a-b1g-mistake/

Man, this is a young flock of baby Ducks! Oregon Football: Updated scholarship count after latest transfers DUCKSWIRE.USATODAY.COM A look at Oregon’s updated scholarship count after adding WR Gary Bryant Jr. and TE Kaden Ludwick on Saturday.

I've been to College Station, Texas. Very good decision young man.

A Twiggy blast from the past, I love it! This is a gal who had to run around in the shower to get wet.

Huzzah! With the addition of Bryant, Oregon still has 2 or 3, depending on whether to TE from CU and from Clackamas, is a walk-on or on scholarship, scholarships available. I'd like to see Dan use these on an LB or 2 out of the portal but are there LBs in the portal who will be more than tackling dummies? I don't know but I am certain Dan and friends know.

I certainly understand your POV. President Schilz is on the conference executive committee and in close contact with the commissioner, George Kliavkoff. Totally objective? Of course not but what source is totally objective? He is a direct source. What is the source for the take on the Huskie's board? Denis Dodd, Brent McMurphy, and the Twitterati? If you believe all of the articles to date and I am not saying you do so, the four corners schools should already be headed to the B12, Oregon, and Washington to the B1G, OSU and WSU to the Mountain West with CAL and Stanford going the Ivy League route. The media economy today even compared to a year ago stinks. ESPN is going through another round of employee cuts and salary reductions. Fox laid off a number of people from one of its affiliates. Amazon has gone through a series of employee reductions. (Apple has not.) No 3rd party streaming company has ever entered into a big-time deal to stream college sports. Guys like the B12 commissioner can talk a big game about expansion but the B12 is not the entity that has to write the checks. Losing the LA schools was a crippling blow. I recall many a post where folks opined that the Pac-12 didn't need the LA schools to be good, etc. In fact, to be good financially, the conference does, or did, need the LA schools. When you are in a relatively weak negotiating position you do not have the leverage to force anything, including when a transaction is consummated. The stock markets are roiling. And the economy has not yet recovered from COVID. Add that to the recent inflation and the rise in interest rates and this is not a good time to be doing a media deal. Is some of this on the conference and its timing? Heck yes. But it is what it is and GK and no one else, has the power to alter market dynamics. As one of our former Presidents oft said, 'I feel your pain.' I am as frustrated as you and all Pac fans over this seeming inertia. Perhaps I am naive but I still believe the conference will end up with a new media deal that will not make moving to the B12 a financially sound move. And I am certain that until any institution in the Pac and any entity hoping to poach Pac-10 teams, knows what the bottom line is, a baseline is established, that Fox and junior partners CBS and NBC are not going to come up with an offer for Oregon and Washington. It stinks to have to wait through all of 'this stuff; especially, for an impatient person such as me. But the existing deal does not expire for some time yet. Was the B12 smart to make an early deal for $30M a team per annum? Maybe, but it remains to be seen. This deal is not a heck of a lot better than the ACC deal and the B12 is not bringing in additional income from its own network. The Ducks brand is strong and while Oregon sports are of course reliant upon a media deal, media money is but one source of Oregon's income. Economics 101 is now adjourned and no one in their right mind should pay money to listen to Professor JJ. One way or another this too shall pass. -

The B12 struck while the Pac-10 fiddled. I have serious doubts about GK but in today's market, I don't think that any person no matter how gifted a negotiator would have an easy time of it making a deal. And the inventory he has for sale is what it is. Rock and a hard place. Perhaps I am foolish but I still believe that the Pac-10 will conclude a deal within the range of the B12 and better than that of the ACC. Today, the ACC, B12, and Pac-10 are in a race for the bronze medal. What GK should have done is to push harder to go to a Pac-20 and bury the B12 but that like the water the gentleman is drowning in is over the dam.

IMO, Oregon, and UW will not agree to a significant exit fee. Nor should they. And IMO these 2, especially Oregon should negotiate a bigger piece of the media pie. Oregon in particular brings a bigger piece of pie to the table than any other Pac team including Washington.

KK, any idea that helps out Oregon is a good idea. I just don't think that if Oregon did its own deal which would hurt the Pac-9's new deal the members of the Pac would want to do anything to help out Oregon. Would an ND-like ACC deal be doable? Maybe. But the remaining Pac-9 members would have to swallow a lot of hard feelings.

Dan Lanning continues to use the portal masterfully to plug holes in the roster.

It's not over before the fat ladies close their respective purses. ESPN and Fox and still in play. A streaming partner is still in play. There is a timeline out there for MW schools. If the Pac-10 wants to expand and add SDSU (and/or Fresno, UNLV, CO St, Boise) Mountain West schools need to give notice to the MW by 6/30/23 or the exit fee will go from $16M to 30+M.

If Oregon was to do its own deal and not sign the new conference grant of rights it would no longer be a member of the conference. Far better IMO to sign the new grant of rights and negotiate for a bigger slice of the media pie. Before Larry the Pac conference had unequal revenue shares. Thanks again, Larry. USC noted its displeasure at the time and remained disgruntled. One of the B1G reasons that Troy is going B1G. UCLA would not have been invited without USC.

Very risky. How many of the existing Pac-10 schools would schedule the Ducks in football, basketball, and non-revenue sports? OOC schedules are filled for many schools five years to a decade-plus out. The Ducks would likely end up being a quasi-member of the Mountain West and as an independent would not automatically make the playoff field in 2024/25. If Oregon made the field it could not be seeded higher than 5. And Oregon would not have a 13th champ game data point. Why would the Ducks on its own score a better deal than they will score in the Pac-10? Today, I very much doubt that ESPN will come with close to $90M for Pac media rights and see no way that ESPN would pay SEC-like money, $70M a team, for the Ducks. The Ducks have terrific value as a brand, no doubt, but I just do not think it is feasible for Oregon to join Army, UConn, UMass, Notre Dame, and NM State as an independent. Unlike Notre Dame, Oregon would not have a seat at the Playoff table. Notre Dame's deal with NBC is for @$30M a season. I think the new Pac-12 deal will at least meet this number. And I very much doubt that Oregon could find a scheduling agreement like ND has with the ACC. I think this is a case of hanging separately or hanging together.

Being an orphan looking for bread ($) is not easy.

NJ Duck thanks for the post but this is again, without naming sources, nothing but doom and gloom rumor-mongering. I prefer to rely upon WSU and Pac-12 executive committee member, President Schulz who recently said that everything is proceeding as well as can be expected in a media market far less robust than even 9 months ago. Which media outlet will pay $30M a year each for AZ, ASU, CU, and Utah's sports inventory? Fox with the LA market locked up is IMO, not paying for the inventory of any additional B12 schools. ESPN just went through a series of new layoffs and has to come up with an additional $140M for Oklahoma and Texas. Which advertisers are clamoring to fund and advertise any of the four corners schools' football programs? Conferences are not paying the freight. Advertisers have to pay the freight. And all advertisers have been affected negatively by a less-than-robust economy. Come up with advertising money for Oklahoma and Texas. Yes. For AZ, ASU, CU, and Utah? I do not see it. If ESPN wants late-night kick-off inventory it has to make a deal of some kind with the Pac-12. Fox has shut ESPN out of the B1G conference. These 'journalists' are very good at spending other people's money.

Charles, good calls by you and Happy. I think if Clemson and FSU were to join with SEC without any other teams to take the SEC to 18 teams that Clemson and FSU would be placed in a pod with South Carolina. The SEC IMO will not separate Georgia and Florida. Yes, a schedule against the teams you mentioned would be daunting. But the SEC also has Vandy, Kentucky, MS State, and other less formidable teams in the conference.

At the very least, Clemson and FSU want a far larger revenue cut than for example, BC and Wake Forest. Wake has the smallest stadium in FBS and the stadium at BC is not much larger. Clemson and FSU (like Oregon and UW in the Pac-10) draw the most eyeballs in the conference with UNC and Miami not that far behind.

I was pondering the matter of journalism last night and an old Russian joke about Moscow's two main newspapers came to mind. Pravda (Truth) Izvestia (News): there is no truth in Pravda and no news in Izvestia.