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If Shough is 3rd then whats that say for the other QB's below him?

Why would anyone not pass up a chance to be The D guy at Oregon and double their salary? In conference move or not the money difference along with the chance to be The D guy at Oregon is a lot to pass up. According to reports I read DeRuyter left Cal making $400K a year. Avlos left Oregon making $830K(?). Bonuses would get an Oregon DC close to $1M. Not much bonus action at Cal. It's a win win situation.

That ranking seems about right. Ducks will probably lose to Ohio st and another P12 game giving them a 10-2 record before a bowl game. Thats deserving of a top 10 ranking.

$$$$$ talks. Looks like he's underpaid.

I for one can't take the 2020 P12 season seriously. National perception is that the P12 is weak and has been for several years. I feel that it was a wonky season mad even wonkier by the late start that was brought on by forces out of the Ducks control. Oregon did what it needed to to win the P12 and play in the Fiesta. Yes they lost in the bowl game but does it really matter? Going 4-2 before being in a big 6 bowl game in and of it's self is not normal. Players got to play and coaches got to coach and fans? Well it was rough to watch the whole season. Was it a waste? I don't think so. Imagine if the Ducks had not played this season. They would've never found out that they don't have a QB and players that were backups or 1st time starters wouldn't of had the needed real game experience. Culture? Top recruits still have the Ducks in their top 8-10 list. That says something about the culture.

Anyone remember when it was big news if the Ducks cracked the top 25 during a season, only to lose a game the following week and never get back in? Ducks have sure come a long way.

Interesting why he would leave AL for OR for the same position coach? Did he know something we didn't know? Back on topic, I think MC has the program headed in the right direction. I tossed this last year in the dumpster because of Covid. The whole P12 should too. Can't wait for this season to get underway in Sept. However I don't see a return to the CFP in the near future. Especially for this season. Oregon would have to run the table to get in. When you start the season unranked or near the bottom it's very hard to make it to the top four.

Sign me up for a vaccine. I plan on getting one regardless. As far as a requirement to enter Autzen goes, well thats a tough call. I can see where it would irk some people. Same as wearing a mask but more so. Getting vaccinated is a personal choice for most people unless your job requires it. Attending a game at Autzen is a privilege and not a given right. I'm okay if those in charge want to make vaccines mandatory. Whats the point of having a vaccine to help slow or stop the spread of Covid and then let 50,000 non vaccinated people gather in tight conditions and yelling all over each other?

The Ducks went 12-2 last year. Except for the dumpster fire in AZ they were right where they needed to be. Big change this year was a shortened season, lost an NFL QB, key player opt outs, new OC, new O line, and now they're the youngest team in the FBS. Even LSU had trouble this year. You can't lose that many key players and still go 12-2. Yes the play calling sucks which brings up the point that it sucked last year too, but there were better smarter players on the team able to over come it. With that being said it's obvious the Ducks have a QB dilemma that may not sort it's self out next year. Who stays , who goes? Is there another Herbert or Mariota in the wings? If not then the Ducks won't be anywhere close to a contender next year. They'll be better but not good enough to pin any hopes on the CFP by a long shot. Winning the north and the Pac 12 will be a major achievement next year.

I'd like to give the Duck players a pass this year because of the circumstance from Covid, but I can't give the coaching staff a pass. When you're still running up the gut on 3rd and 2 and not getting it. When are you going to learn? Even my wife, who knows enough about football even knew Likio was going to get the ball on a 3rd and 2 in the 4th qtr. She said why else would he be in there? 0 3rd down conversions in a game. I think thats a sign of something wrong.

Totally agree. I think it's fair to say that next year will be just another year. Some good, some bad but not enough to make a statement.

This sums up the issue of respect for the Pac 12. "Any way you look at it, the Pac-12, which hasn’t won a national championship since claiming a three-way tie in 2007, is down trending. Pac-12 schools have lost 11 of their last 15 games to SEC teams; 16 of their last 19 to Big Ten teams; 21 of their last 34 to Big 12 teams; and 21 of their last 32 bowl games."

This is a tough pick. Iowa St has one of the best RB's in the country. If they can control the clock with the ground game then I see the Ducks losing. I'm not sure I can trust Shough to all of a sudden pull out of his slump. CJ is questionable. Is Brown good enough to take over if Shough struggles? Ducks will have to play a perfect game with no stupid penalties on D. I going with Iowa St 31 Duck 27

I'd give Shough one Qtr to prove himself. If it's obvious he's still struggling then put Brown in for as long as needed. Not really into the 50/50 thing.

Gotta agree with Canzano on this. The P12 is so far in the dumpster that a Ducks win will only help the Ducks. A Ducks loss won't hurt them. How can you take a team at 4-2 and losing to Cal and Ore St seriously? Not being in the CFP or even in contention for a spot and not winning the majority of bowl games has hurt the conference. You need to be relevant to be noticed. Covid has wreaked havoc on college football this year and thats the main reason things in the P12 are upside down right now. Covid aside this year has had no effect on the trajectory of the conference.