FishDuck Article Administrator No. 1 Share Posted January 16 2024 B1G football will be competitive. There is no B1G West Division to protect lesser teams which led to B1G West schools winning the Division, and then flaming out in the B1G Championship game. Instead, the top two teams will play for the B1G title in Indianapolis, on December 7, 2024. Hopefully, for the Ducks this will be a Day ... 2024 Battle For The B1G Looks Like a Battle of the Os | FishDuck FISHDUCK.COM 2024 B1G football will be competitive. There is no B1G West Division to protect lesser teams which led to B1G West schools winning the Division… 1 3 Two Sites: FishDuck and the Our Beloved Ducks forum, The only "Forum with Decorum!" And All-Volunteer? What a wonderful community of Duck fans! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywarduck No. 2 Share Posted January 16 Agree with all you said, it's just way too early for me to have much to say other than... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Administrator No. 3 Share Posted January 16 I learned a TON from your article Jon, great research as usual, and THANKS! BTW...how is it that the team that has won National Championships, that has won the B1G routinely and is always in the top five in the nation....how is it that Ohio State has an easier schedule than Oregon who is brand new to the conference? How can that be? Because...the B1G Admins say.... So half the revenue, and a tougher schedule than Ohio State? 1 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDuck Moderator No. 4 Share Posted January 16 Oregon favored over Ohio State in early betting line for 2024 showdown Oregon favored over Ohio State in early betting line for 2024 showdown DUCKSWIRE.USATODAY.COM An early betting line has been released for the Oregon Ducks and Ohio State Buckeyes’ 2024 showdown in Eugene. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioDuck No. 5 Share Posted January 18 I think the regular season best record comes down to the game between Oregon and OSU at Oregon. Though on paper and preseason the Useless Nuts schedule looks easier, I don't see a game on either's schedule they shouldn't win. Of course should win and winning can be two different things. The B1G will be an adventure for sure. Go Ducks! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 6 Share Posted January 19 As the wags in the midwest are calling it, the B1G conference handed Ohio State an OPPS, Ohio State Playoff Protected Schedule. Of the on-paper contenders, Ohio State has the least rocky row to hoe in conference and its OOC schedule in 2024 looks like Michigan and UCLA the last 2 seasons. This year, Michigan plays SEC Texas OOC, in Ann Arbor. UCLA plays at LSU during the Ducks 1st Off Week and the week before Oregon opens the B1G schedule with a trip to LA to play the Bruins. This should help the Ducks' cause. UW's toughest OOC opponent, like Oregon's, comes against a Pac-2 opponent. Wazzu at Lumen Field in Seattle. USC not only plays LSU in Las Vegas OOC but also plays Notre Dame in LA in the final regular season game. With the expansion to a 12-team playoff, until the playoff committee shows that strength of schedule matters instead of just Ws and Ls, I see no reason to step up the OOC schedule. Heroes often win their medals posthumously. Thanks to all of my editors for the great work! I need all the help I can get. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 7 Share Posted January 19 https://collegefootballnews.com/oregon/2024-oregon-football-schedule-3-things-to-know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 8 Share Posted January 19 https://collegefootballnews.com/ohio-state/2024-ohio-state-football-schedule-3-things-to-know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyToBeADuck No. 9 Share Posted January 19 Schedules can be very problematic for sure. Fair or not, champions get the job done. The CFP doesnt even consider fair schedules. tOSU couldnt beat Michigan and OBD's couldnt beat the huskies. No matter how easy or hard your schedule is, you have to win the big games. That's what champions do! Our Ducks have 3 hugh games next season. tOSU, michigan and huskies. They most likely need to win 2 of those games to finish in top 12 for CFP invite. The other 9 games they better win because they should be the more talented team on the field. No margin for error on those 9 games. The most critical game is tOSU tilt in Eugene. Both teams will be undefeated and Top 5. As long as the game is a close score, hard fought battle and lives up to its expectations, then the loser will not drop. OBD's didnt drop out of the Top 10 even with 2 losses. The Ducks will have at least 3 bigtime games on National TV. The stage will be big! Go Ducks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Duck No. 10 Share Posted January 19 Happy, your comment above: “The CFP doesnt even consider fair schedules.” Deserves some scrutiny. The implication you make is that the CFP did less than a thorough job in choosing the playoff participants. The 13 CFP committee members get undeservedly ragged upon all the time from lots of folks who do not understand the written protocol they follow in choosing the teams that participate in the playoff. That protocol has guidelines that the committee must apply in making their decision. Those “guidelines” are: Championships won Strength of schedule Head‐to‐head competition (if it occurred) Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory) Other relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.* As you can see, your comment that the committee does not consider “fair schedules” is contradicted by the second guideline above. In fact, FSU had the weakest SOS of the teams considered for the playoff. Put that with the finial guideline that includes the unavailablilty of FSU’s Quarterback and there is no question that the committee did their job properly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckley Palace No. 11 Share Posted January 19 Ryan Day is considered a failure. Let that sink in. The man is 55-8, had the defending and eventual champion Georgia on the ropes. Missed a field goal that would have got them into a game with TCU. They we would've won that game. Ten years ago Oregon would be ecstatic with the two seasons we just witnessed. But it was a letdown for us. We know Oregon has the roster to beat Michigan. We are disappointed with a top ten finish. We are disappointed in losing to a team up north. Three straight losses, it has to end next November. Seems to be a lot of parallels between the two programs. Both should make the playoff next year. How crazy would it be to have three matchups this upcoming season? Oregon wins the first, Ohio State wins the conference title game. Oregon wins the National Title. Let the hate flow through the Buckeyes as they beat Michigan, only to find out they have another team they should need to focus on. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 12 Share Posted January 19 The Bill O'Brien hire article that has been posted, thank you, is another example of how all-in Ohio State is this season. Like Michigan was goosed by a PO loss to underdog TCU, Ohio State is similarly incented times the 3 losses in a row to Michigan. For Day to give up playcalling, if this is the case on game day is surprising. Behind Stroud, Day lit up the B1G sans Michigan, and the UGA D in a great 2022/23 PO game. In 2023 McCord was not Stroud and the tOSU OL continued to dip in production. The tOSU D was terrific in 2023 and should be so in 2024. And you don't pick up a Bill O'Brien off the street for nickles and dimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 13 Share Posted January 19 5* Bama QB Justin Sayin, who committed to Bama, has entered the portal and is an Ohio State lean. He joins many Bama players in the portal. 5* S, Downs, who as a true frosh led Bama in tackles and was All-SEC, is also on Ohio State's radar along with home state Georgia. Ohio State is on a 2024 full-court press. Sayin is from Carlsbad, CA and you can bet that Lincoln Riley at SC will make a strong play for Sayin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar No. 14 Share Posted January 19 Real question: how do we win a Natty next year playing Ohio State 3 times? We play them at home early in the year, if as predicted we are the two best teams in the B1G, then we will play them in the Conference Championship, and if we are both as good as predicted nationally there is a strong chance we play them in the playoffs. The conference championships need to go, and instead move to a 24 team playoff bracket, we everything's is as it is now, just x 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioDuck No. 15 Share Posted January 19 On 1/19/2024 at 2:17 AM, Duckley Palace said: Ryan Day is considered a failure. Let that sink in. The man is 55-8, had the defending and eventual champion Georgia on the ropes. Missed a field goal that would have got them into a game with TCU. They we would've won that game. Ten years ago Oregon would be ecstatic with the two seasons we just witnessed. But it was a letdown for us. We know Oregon has the roster to beat Michigan. We are disappointed with a top ten finish. We are disappointed in losing to a team up north. Three straight losses, it has to end next November. Seems to be a lot of parallels between the two programs. Both should make the playoff next year. How crazy would it be to have three matchups this upcoming season? Oregon wins the first, Ohio State wins the conference title game. Oregon wins the National Title. Let the hate flow through the Buckeyes as they beat Michigan, only to find out they have another team they should need to focus on. That team out west. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckley Palace No. 16 Share Posted January 20 (edited) On 1/19/2024 at 11:23 AM, Jon Joseph said: 5* Bama QB Justin Sayin, who committed to Bama, has entered the portal and is an Ohio State lean. He joins many Bama players in the portal. 5* S, Downs, who as a true frosh led Bama in tackles and was All-SEC, is also on Ohio State's radar along with home state Georgia. Ohio State is on a 2024 full-court press. Sayin is from Carlsbad, CA and you can bet that Lincoln Riley at SC will make a strong play for Sayin. It's kind of crazy to see how much Ohio State has reacted to three straight losses to Michigan. They had a QB problem, they also have struggled to recruit offensive lineman. But after listening to their new A.D talk, they are going to fully embrace NIL, the transfer portal, and having large expensive coaching staffs. My response to Ohio State just now going all out? What the heck is all out these days? It's not like they've been cheap, or lacked talent. It's not like they haven't been brash, done things that may be deemed "stretching the rules". To me, they've been operating like an SEC program for over a decade now. It's why Penn State, and Michigan started "stretching the rules". The Big Ten Oregon is entering, is a much more cutthroat version than the one Nebraska did in 2012. It's why Lanning has a 22 million dollar buyout. It's why Oregon could never have a guy who recruits like Chip Kelly did, ever again. Washington , and UCLA are going into the wild West with pea shooters. Oregon, and USC are going in with missiles. Difference is ,USC has a guy who has no idea what to do with the darn thing. They'll likely blow up their own backyard. Edited January 20 by Duckley Palace 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 17 Share Posted January 20 The Bill O'Brien hire article that has been posted, thank you, is another example of how all-in Ohio State is this season. Like Michigan was goosed by a PO loss to underdog TCU, Ohio State is similarly incented times the 3 losses in a row to Michigan. For Day to give up playcalling, if this is the case on game day is surprising. Behind Stroud, Day lit up the B1G sans Michigan, and the UGA D in a great 2022/23 PO game. In 2023 McCord was not Stroud and the tOSU OL continued to dip in production. The tOSU D was terrific in 2023 and should be so in 2024. And you don't pick up a Bill O'Brien off the street for nickles and dimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 18 Share Posted January 20 Buckeyes sign transfer safety Caleb Downs. SEC Frosh of the Year in 2023. My goodness! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 19 Share Posted January 20 On 1/19/2024 at 1:41 PM, Solar said: Real question: how do we win a Natty next year playing Ohio State 3 times? We play them at home early in the year, if as predicted we are the two best teams in the B1G, then we will play them in the Conference Championship, and if we are both as good as predicted nationally there is a strong chance we play them in the playoffs. The conference championships need to go, and instead move to a 24 team playoff bracket, we everything's is as it is now, just x 2. Buckeyes trip to Autzen on 10/12/24. No game is scheduled vs the Buckeyes in 2025. But in 2024, it is conceivable the two Os could play 3 times. But this will most likely not happen if Oregon or Ohio State wins the B1G title and has the 1st round bye. I think we see a 16-team PO in 2026 with all teams starting play on Week 0. The 2024 season's PO concludes a year from today, 1/20/25. I do not think that a 24-team PO is manageable. 24 teams would be interfering more with NFL playoffs than will happen in 2024. Champ games are part of the media package and I don't think they will go away. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckley Palace No. 20 Share Posted January 21 (edited) I think the only way to make the conference titles work, is to have number one seeds on the line for the winners. If the playoff goes to 16 teams as some have projected. You could do one of two things . Number one includes the ACC, and Big Twelve remaining relevant. In this case you have four pods, one bye for each pod. The conference champion having that bye. The Final Four would have the highest rated overall seed remaining face off against the lowest. The second scenario basically has the SEC, and Big Ten being like the AFC vs NFC. The champions of those two get the one seeds. The Big Twelve and ACC still get an automatic qualifier, but their champions get no bye. You could use the rankings to maybe give the ACC, or Big Twelve teams a chance to get those byes. But with FSU, Clemson, and likely whoever the Big two leagues start cherry picking down the line, I just see the gap being too wide. You have to have stakes to ask Oregon play Ohio State again, all while some other playoff team gets to skip that week, because they didn't have as good a record to qualify for that game. You gotta give the winner the prize, you also gotta give the runner up something over the rest of the field that didn't have to play that extra game as well. Maybe the matchup with the lowest seeds, perhaps the G5 participants. Edited January 21 by Duckley Palace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 21 Share Posted January 22 Oh, Oh! Ohio State picking apart Alabama's carcass following Nick Saban's retirement WWW.YARDBARKER.COM No program has benefited from Nick Saban's retirement more than Ohio State. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 22 Share Posted January 22 Ohio State lands Alabama QB signee, 5-star recruit, via transfer portal SATURDAYTRADITION.COM Ohio State with another big get from the portal, as a 5-star Alabama transfer quarterback announces he will play for the Buckeyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 23 Share Posted January 23 The 4 ways that Ohio State’s season on the brink could impact the SEC SATURDAYTRADITION.COM All eyes should be on the events that unfold in Columbus in 2024. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
